No idea what this is... Potassium issue?

OldMedUser

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Low K is going to affect the older fan leaves first. This is toxic salts buildup frying the leaves. An EC of 3.3 is 1650ppm which is really high in my books and even 2.6 is way up there compared to what I ever use. Those extra nutes have built up in the leaves until the salt levels get so high that the leaves just burn up from the inside out. Not fixable but lowering your EC drastically will slow it's progress.

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xIPhobiaIx

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Low K is going to affect the older fan leaves first. This is toxic salts buildup frying the leaves. An EC of 3.3 is 3650ppm which is really high in my books and even 2.6 is way up there compared to what I ever use. Those extra nutes have built up in the leaves until the salt levels get so high that the leaves just burn up from the inside out. Not fixable but lowering your EC drastically will slow it's progress.

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I just checked my EC across all 12 pots and it was either 3.4 or 4.1 with a PH (coco coir + perlite 60/40 that sits in a reservoir (basically a SIP), its called an Octopot) of 5.9 to 6.0 (Hydroponics).

PH is looking just fine for K but the EC is way to high. I think this is def nute burn now.
 

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CatHedral

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Low K is going to affect the older fan leaves first. This is toxic salts buildup frying the leaves. An EC of 3.3 is 3650ppm which is really high in my books and even 2.6 is way up there compared to what I ever use. Those extra nutes have built up in the leaves until the salt levels get so high that the leaves just burn up from the inside out. Not fixable but lowering your EC drastically will slow it's progress.

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If using the 500 ppm convention, 1650 ppm
High but survivable. Ask me how I know :blush:
 

green_machine_two9er

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But how do you cool a room down to 85 if the temps outside are 95? This is why I chose AC.
I took a above ground barn project on this last summer. Was pleased to learn we needed no ac! And ran perfect temps through July snd august. How? Lights come on at 10pm- 10am. Large fans to pull in outside air which is closer to 65-75 overnight. Passive intake, thermostats set ez pz. And now that’s it’s cold we sealed the room snd supppiment co2 and push hot air from veg(24h light) into flower if it drops below 75… pretty freaking happy that it worked out.
Good luck. Not sure about your question about your current issue
 

CatHedral

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I took a above ground barn project on this last summer. Was pleased to learn we needed no ac! And ran perfect temps through July snd august. How? Lights come on at 10pm- 10am. Large fans to pull in outside air which is closer to 65-75 overnight. Passive intake, thermostats set ez pz. And now that’s it’s cold we sealed the room snd supppiment co2 and push hot air from veg(24h light) into flower if it drops below 75… pretty freaking happy that it worked out.
Good luck. Not sure about your question about your current issue
Did all y’all have a plan B for a hot night?
 

green_machine_two9er

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Did all y’all have a plan B for a hot night?
Lol big fans. I had 12 inch inline pulling air laterally. And a second 12 inch mounted in the ceiling(20ft) set a few degrees higher. When it got 85f plus both fans kick on and the passive intake is like a hurricane coming through. Even on the 80 degree nights it kept up.
Also the intake comes from an interior lower portion of the barn that stayed cooler than outside air to begin with
 

CatHedral

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Lol big fans. I had 12 inch inline pulling air laterally. And a second 12 inch mounted in the ceiling(20ft) set a few degrees higher. When it got 85f plus both fans kick on and the passive intake is like a hurricane coming through. Even on the 80 degree nights it kept up.
Also the intake comes from an interior lower portion of the barn that stayed cooler than outside air to begin with
Oh my word, I would love to hear that sound. HVAC systems are freakn musical.
 

OldMedUser

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PH is looking just fine for K but the EC is way to high. I think this is def nute burn now.
Toxic salts buildup is basically slo-mo nute burn that happens slowly over time when the EC is too high for a prolonged period. Regular nute burn is easily fixable but once it's built up in the plant tissues it's there for good. It has happened to me for a long time before I clued into it. Chronically low RH here makes it happen a lot easier.

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hotrodharley

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Low K is going to affect the older fan leaves first. This is toxic salts buildup frying the leaves. An EC of 3.3 is 1650ppm which is really high in my books and even 2.6 is way up there compared to what I ever use. Those extra nutes have built up in the leaves until the salt levels get so high that the leaves just burn up from the inside out. Not fixable but lowering your EC drastically will slow it's progress.

:peace:
That's way high even for experienced in hydro. Consider lockout.
 

OldMedUser

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That's way high even for experienced in hydro. Consider lockout.
I used to DWC Afghani Kush a lot and it could handle up to 1500ppm during the stretch and grew huge colas but the buzz didn't rock my world so I gave that one up. With later plants and the low RH I would often be running at 600ppm the whole time.

Beer Can Betty. The Afghani is not a pretty plant either. This is the largest of the survivors in a 12 plant tub.

BeerCanBetty02.jpg

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