No new LEAF growth DAY 3 HELP ¡

MaloMAL

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Hope all is well. First time DWC growth. Germ 12/10/16 via Rapid rooter - 32 watt fluorescent - 9 day SM. Dome, 7 day BG. Dome - 16th day transfer via 2.75gallon 3 gallon Food grade bucket 8in MESH -300watt HPS light - 16/8. 4 PLANTS total. Nutes - Technaflora - Grow 1.5mL , Bloom .75mL , B-1 RED .25mL , MagiCAL .25ml, sugarPAPI 1.0mL lol. PPM start was 85 after nutes 122PPM. H20 BUCKET temp 86.8F. Ph. 6 1 but fluctuates during the day as high as 7.1. Adjusted using Ph down to Ph. 5.8. Need HELP no new growth on leaves. Rapid ROOTERS all touch bottom of MESH. Using hydroton CLAY pebbles as a medium that were thoroughly washed prior to transfer. What do i do ? WAIT it out or what ? Tell me i need LEAVES !! requesy photos please !!! 1 Critical 3 Sweet tooth
 

MaloMAL

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I used the "Drip Technique" on all 6 plants. I transfered every plant into another 8 in Net POT. I gently took each longest root hanging and encouraged it through the hole. Each plant has a small root hanging on the bottom. I also increased my water using proper procedures to ensure the same quality of water used previously. The water is now an inch into the net. I did this so the roots will stay within the water and hopefully help encourage more root length. All rapid rooters touch the base of the net regardless of submerge. I reduced the temperature of the water to balanced itself with the temperature contributed from the lights. The water now temps @77.3F. I will post photos in a second.
 

MaloMAL

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leave ph alone until out of range, have patience, listen to mickfoster
Will do and have been doing so. I don't mess with adjusting the ph. I've only done it once in 3 Days. Ph. Simply rises a bit to 7.1, which I believe is normal considering it's neutral. Although plants can't break down nutrients at Ph. that doesn't range from 5.8 - 6.1, it is completely normal under the circumstance it doesn't rise to high 7s.... please, you tell me if this knowledge I withhold is valid or not...
 

MaloMAL

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Are the roots making their way through the net pots. They may be drying out.
Yes I have manually encouraged each root from every plant to surpass the net pot hole and submerge itself into the water.... after every transfer using the "drip technique" I visual confirmation shows that the roots were not drying out but very thin due to compression. The were all white....
 

needsomebeans

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Throw up a picture of your plants and your plants roots. It's hard to diagnose problems without being able to see what's going on. Beat me to it.
 

MaloMAL

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Throw up a picture of your plants and your plants roots. It's hard to diagnose problems without being able to see what's going on.
I'm sure it is my kind friend however I have done so. Please request images in details if you'd like any further... I'm happy to post them up. All I'm looking for is help .I can provide what ever it is you may request.
 

MaloMAL

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Plants look fine to me bro. You might be fretting to much.
Absolutely, that's my personality hahaha. My only concern is that it's been 19 days. I've had tomatoes grow more leaves. Lol so that's what's seems to keep me worried. I'd think by now the baby leaves I see would have grown in length begging other small sucker growth. Idk. When should I be concerned. Should I keep dripping ¿
 

needsomebeans

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Give it a couple more days my friend. Watch for any changes in leaf color.They can go into transplant shock some times. When I grow dwc I like to run enough air so the the air bubbles make a mist when they burst. This keeps the medium moist until the roots reach the water.
 

chemphlegm

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Will do and have been doing so. I don't mess with adjusting the ph. I've only done it once in 3 Days. Ph. Simply rises a bit to 7.1, which I believe is normal considering it's neutral. Although plants can't break down nutrients at Ph. that doesn't range from 5.8 - 6.1, it is completely normal under the circumstance it doesn't rise to high 7s.... please, you tell me if this knowledge I withhold is valid or not...
high 7's for prolonged periods should be lowered.
 

MaloMAL

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Give it a couple more days my friend. Watch for any changes in leaf color.They can go into transplant shock some times. When I grow dwc I like to run enough air so the the air bubbles make a mist when they burst. This keeps the medium moist until the roots reach the water.
Good stuff bringing that up actually considering I've been very attentive specifically with color differentials. When I initially transplanted the plants had a darker green for about 2 days. The fan leaves were a bit rising and looks as though were hairy. With using the drip technique I seen a light green appearing. @9:20am HPS shut OFF I again began to look at the leves and noticed a liner green. More balanced. Not lime transition yellow just a nice balance of light green. Also, yesterday I began to bend the small fan leaves including tiny suckers. I've done so again today for every plant. I bend both fan leaves equallyand hold for about 5 seconds. I do this until the plant looks flat on top. It is a technique I use for my tomatoe plants. Any suggestions ????
 

MaloMAL

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high 7's for prolonged periods should be lowered.
Cool and that is exactly what I had in mind. However, I've only adjusted it once considering it has only been 3 days since I did so. Now it is 4 i have not tested the Ph. Just yet. When checked if needed to be adjusted I will do so. Also is there a such thing as overkill as far as adjusting Ph ? From my knowledge I should adjust it too much during the day as this will increase the PPM and obligate the nutrients to be consumed at a reduced rate by the plants... is the knowledge valid ? If not, what is the appropriate information ? Thank you.
 
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