veggiegardener
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There are three in my household.25 square feet per HOUSEHOLD.
what if 4 smokers live in the same house? they only get 6.25 square feet each.
Fuck P19.
NO! On Prop 19
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Fuck P19.
luvourmother
Active Member
according to you, which fortunately for the rest of us is a minority pov.
also, medical marijuana is exempt from prop 19, get that through your thick skull please.
desert dude
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I will admit it will be hard for you to support a 3oz/day (or was it 3oz/week) habit on 25sf. Of course, you are a 215 patient, so it won't affect you anyway, so vote no on P19 to deny your neighbors the right to grow their own.
so i will ask you, ... what if 4 smokers/growers live at the same house? how can you support your needs with only 6.25 square feet?
Kindwoman
Member
Thanks Desert Dude, my medical condition was due to an accident, but my soulmate has Multiple Sclerosis and it's one bad Mother F*#ker.
Proposition 19 has flaws but we MUST start somewhere.
desert dude
Well-Known Member
Better than they can now with 0.0sf.
Maybe they will buy from you. You're not opposed to that, are you?
so you just keep spinning your answer back to attempts at insults directed at me.
i don't get it.
do you have an honest opinion, or are you simply here to bash people?
25 square feet per HOUSEHOLD is ridiculous. whether it a "start" or not. would it really be so hard to admit this?
desert dude
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I would like to see a bigger grow area allowed, but would the average voter in CA go along with that? Probably not.
25sf is better than 0.0sf. Making it legal removes the probably cause excuses for authorities to kick your door down and shoot your dog, and grandmother. That is a BIG improvement.
Don't be so sensitive, FDD. I am not here to bash you. I don't even know you. You actually sound like a pretty nice guy and somebody I would like to have as a neighbbor.
i'm not being sensitive. just wondering why people feel they need to add insults to opinions. everytime someone says No they get called a drug dealer. what does that prove? you insinuated it, i addressed it. no need to call me sensitive, we are debating aren't we?
just another insult i assume.
desert dude
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No insult intended. Hey, I said I would like to have you as a neighbor, didn't I? That is a compliment.
i wish my state, MI would get a move on already. so many city wide improvements could be made, and our streets are only trying to move towards a safer atmosphere where you can obtain quality herbs without having to make a shady transaction at a parking lot or deal with non-regulated providers. think about it, legalize it, tax it, and let new large scale companies who have the know how and resources to grow top quality meds cash in on this could be booming industry.
desert dude
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I agree. That is the way I read P19 as well. One 25sf grow per residence. From what I read here, one could expect about 1 pound every three months on 25 sf. Personally, I could not smoke a pound in a hundred years, but I realize that many of you think 25sf is too small. I would like to see the grow area bigger. Still, 25sf is more than 0.0sf, and 25sf is the minimum and could be expanded by local authorities or even by the state legislature. The ability to legally grow on 25sf solves a bunch of other problems related to "probable cause" as well.if you lived with 3 other smokers/growers you would not get 25sqf, you'd get 6.25.
P19 ain't perfect, but it is a start.
http://stash.norml.org/californias-prop-19-a-word-for-word-analysis
"A city might decide you are allowed to grow more than a 5′x5′ garden and possess more than an ounce for personal consumption. And maybe they decide you can buy and sell more than an ounce at a time. Hooray!"
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And even if you dont follow the law perfectly, whos to know? If youre pulled over and theres an ounce and a half in your backpack, how does that cop know? Does it smell heavy in your car? So long as you refuse a search, how will he know? The smell of pot isnt cause for a search; youre allowed to have an ounce of it.
If you have a 10′x10′ garden, whos to know? Is the electric bill that much higher? Does the garden smell more (probably not at all if you build a good grow room)? Plus dont forget that youre allowed to have more than one ounce, namely, any amount that you grow within your 5′x5′ garden, at the location of the garden. I think by the time law enforcement came back with a warrant to investigate how big my garden is, three-fourths of it would be cut down and I would suddenly have my 5′x5′ garden and my hanging plants from the last 5′x5′ area I harvested."
"A city might decide you are allowed to grow more than a 5′x5′ garden and possess more than an ounce for personal consumption. And maybe they decide you can buy and sell more than an ounce at a time. Hooray!"
"
And even if you dont follow the law perfectly, whos to know? If youre pulled over and theres an ounce and a half in your backpack, how does that cop know? Does it smell heavy in your car? So long as you refuse a search, how will he know? The smell of pot isnt cause for a search; youre allowed to have an ounce of it.
If you have a 10′x10′ garden, whos to know? Is the electric bill that much higher? Does the garden smell more (probably not at all if you build a good grow room)? Plus dont forget that youre allowed to have more than one ounce, namely, any amount that you grow within your 5′x5′ garden, at the location of the garden. I think by the time law enforcement came back with a warrant to investigate how big my garden is, three-fourths of it would be cut down and I would suddenly have my 5′x5′ garden and my hanging plants from the last 5′x5′ area I harvested."
Serapis
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I have a 4' x 4' secret Jardin with a 600w light and I'm estatic about having it. I love the hobby and the yields. The problem is, my state doesn't even recognize marijuana as having medical benefits. I use only 16' sqaure and it is more than enough for me and my friends. Do you realize what a 4'x4' or a 5'x5' scrog will produce? It won't produce the hundreds of pounds that your outdoor grows do, but I'd love to have a legal 5'x5'. You can easily pull a pound every 5-6 weeks if you work it right.
Look at it this way, a 5' x 5' garden is certainly bigger than a 0' x 0' garden. Don't mention 215 sizes in rebuttal, as they aren't the same thing. I grow for me and two others. We aren't able to smoke 16 ounces in 6 weeks. An ounce lasts me two weeks. What do you think is an appropriate sized garden for recreational use?
poke smot420
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vote no! i'll be out of a job
poke smot420
Well-Known Member
what do you tell the inmates in prison for pot? what about medical patients? what about the feds suing CA? what about the rise in trafficking out of CA to other states? its causes more problems then it solves. plus it puts small/medium growers such as myself out of work. vote no on that shit. i agree with fdd2blk 100%. small towns in humboldt, hayfork, crescent city etc will cease to exsist
medicalsb420
Active Member
vote fuck no! if you truly love this plant- protect her! VOTE NO!
