no terps

Yea i have rqs right now, no smell at all you have to punch a leaf to get a small amount of smell.buuut its also18°C in my room you need at least over 24 to get them to start stinking upthe place

Damn, smell is the best part. Taking a big whiff is like an orgasm lmao

I'm growing mephistos DG and NASC white label Alcapulco Gold.. shit smells lovely

Some phenos don't have smell, just the way she goes...
If the problem is 100% of the time, something else is in play here, but you have peat and ewc in your soil mix so I doubt it's anything you do.. ewc brings out the funk no matter if you know what ur doing or not haha

My guess is a long shot here but I'll go with nose blind aswell
Cardboard terps you say...
I might get grilled for this but try switching your leds to HIDs is my 2nd option for you as far fatched as it sounds..

DanKiller said:

I might get grilled for this but try switching your leds to HIDs

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I grew under HIDs from '96 and just switched to LED in 2023. I've had low odor strains under HID. I find zero difference under my lights from how my genetics grew under HID. But ymmv and I didn't move to LED until I was absolutely certain LED light would handle it. The only thing I miss about my HIDs is their heat but I grow in the Mojave Desert so there's only about 12 weeks/year I feel that way and then it's not much as my forced air unit works well.

curious2garden said:

I grew under HIDs from '96 and just switched to LED in 2023. I've had low odor strains under HID. I find zero difference under my lights from how my genetics grew under HID. But ymmv and I didn't move to LED until I was absolutely certain LED light would handle it. The only thing I miss about my HIDs is their heat but I grow in the Mojave Desert so there's only about 12 weeks/year I feel that way and then it's not much as my forced air unit works well.

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I'm not sold on this concept aswell entirely, I just see the research on other plants flowering and it's the culprit in most of them.
My and only my conclusion after trying them is certain strains within the weed family will respond better some worse to them, the odds are not in their favour.
Sure I had my fair share of meh phenos under HIDs, but to reach the results that can verify if those compunds that create the smell in the first place are even allowed or able to come into fruition is not less important and sometimes over looked.
When things go wrong, go back to basic and build from there, in our case the sun.
If I were the op and everything else fails, maybe nature and a good outdoor run will give some perspective.

cobshopgrow said:

you might find some breeders in austria, i just ordered some facemelter cookies from austria, who seems to be a small seed manufactor, i will see, no gurantue!

NO, i havent said they sell anything exclusive, i also think they just resellers of these bulk seeds in a nice package, but their green gelato is good in quite some regards and smelly af, that was asked for in first here.

which ones are stronger in your mind, interessted.

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Animal cookies the cut not s1s and dosidos wasnt as bad either none of the gelato stuff clones or s1s i tried were up to much and i dont rate london poundcake either looks ok tastes ok just too weak for me

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I grew under HIDs from '96 and just switched to LED in 2023. I've had low odor strains under HID. I find zero difference under my lights from how my genetics grew under HID. But ymmv and I didn't move to LED until I was absolutely certain LED light would handle it. The only thing I miss about my HIDs is their heat but I grow in the Mojave Desert so there's only about 12 weeks/year I feel that way and then it's not much as my forced air unit works well.

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Can you guys not get away with outdoors or greenhouses or is there still strict and best not to ?

i got a worst issue my gelato stink the block up

Those crappy autos they say

Autos can be good it's all about genetic potential from the get go, the auto donor/receiver plant is 50% of the genetic make up, you are left with 50% same killer traits from the elite clone you are trying to auto but need to look at more combinations till you find that one that has the auto/elite mom traits combined, but it's there no doubt.