kpmarine
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Now you're just being contrary.
Nonbelievers, how did you lose your religion?
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Shannon Alexander
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Not really... The only people that can hurt me are the ones I let get close...
Morgan Lynn
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I've always been a non-believer. I've even tried to believe once. It didn't work because I have logic and reasoning skills.
HeartlandHank
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You know what the funniest thing is about religious folks?
You actually believe, that from the very beginning of time itself, you/your people were present AND the center of all life. From the beginning, to the end, it was all about you. Not only were you there and at the top of the pole from the beginning... but when the world will end is when you and your people leave it. Where do you go to? On to the after life for humans. To live forever. This place (Everything in existence, ever heard of a gigaparsec?) was made all just for you to hang out until it is time to go to an even better place that was also made just for you and yours.
this is for you.
You actually believe, that from the very beginning of time itself, you/your people were present AND the center of all life. From the beginning, to the end, it was all about you. Not only were you there and at the top of the pole from the beginning... but when the world will end is when you and your people leave it. Where do you go to? On to the after life for humans. To live forever. This place (Everything in existence, ever heard of a gigaparsec?) was made all just for you to hang out until it is time to go to an even better place that was also made just for you and yours.
this is for you.
tyler.durden
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Awesome Hank, very amusing! +rep...You know what the funniest thing is about religious folks?
You actually believe, that from the very beginning of time itself, you/your people were present AND the center of all life. From the beginning, to the end, it was all about you. Not only were you there and at the top of the pole from the beginning... but when the world will end is when you and your people leave it. Where do you go to? On to the after life for humans. To live forever. This place (Everything in existence, ever heard of a gigaparsec?) was made all just for you to hang out until it is time to go to an even better place that was also made just for you and yours.
Padawanbater2
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Which is really ironic considering the majority of theists consider atheism egotistical.You know what the funniest thing is about religious folks?
You actually believe, that from the very beginning of time itself, you/your people were present AND the center of all life. From the beginning, to the end, it was all about you. Not only were you there and at the top of the pole from the beginning... but when the world will end is when you and your people leave it. Where do you go to? On to the after life for humans. To live forever. This place (Everything in existence, ever heard of a gigaparsec?) was made all just for you to hang out until it is time to go to an even better place that was also made just for you and yours.
Is this real life?
Mellowman2112
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And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them
Zaehet Strife
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This lord dude sounds terribly ferocious, evil, unforgiving and unkind...for supposedly being such a loving idea.
The claim that there are no atheists in foxholes has been debunked time and time again. Just as Carl Sagan died, he had no regrets, and still no metaphysical or theological attachments.
"Carl faced his death with unflagging courage & never sought refuge in illusions. The tragedy was that we knew we would never see each other again. I don’t ever expect to be reunited with Carl. But, the great thing is that when we were together, for nearly twenty years, we lived with a vivid appreciation of how brief & precious life is. We never trivialized the meaning of death by pretending it was anything other than a final parting. Every single moment that we were alive & we were together was miraculous — not miraculous in the sense of inexplicable or supernatural. We knew we were beneficiaries of chance… That pure chance could be so generous & so kind… That we could find each other, as Carl wrote so beautifully in Cosmos, you know, in the vastness of space & the immensity of time… That we could be together for twenty years. That is something which sustains me & it’s much more meaningful…
The way he treated me & the way I treated him, the way we took care of each other & our family, while he lived. That is so much more important than the idea I will see him someday. I don’t think I’ll ever see Carl again. But I saw him. We saw each other. We found each other in the cosmos, and that was wonderful."
The way he treated me & the way I treated him, the way we took care of each other & our family, while he lived. That is so much more important than the idea I will see him someday. I don’t think I’ll ever see Carl again. But I saw him. We saw each other. We found each other in the cosmos, and that was wonderful."
Zaehet Strife
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"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe."
-Sagan
-Sagan
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That sounds soooo much better while aiming a 1911. cn
Padawanbater2
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From that I'm assuming you were never a religious person, I was wondering, do you feel like you may be missing out on that perspective?
Do you find it easy to relate to theists or more difficult because of your background? Or does it not make much of a difference at all?
Do you find it easy to relate to theists or more difficult because of your background? Or does it not make much of a difference at all?
dontexist21
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I took a second to think.
Padawanbater2
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Details, son!
woodsusa
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I can see someone being an agnostic though I believe there is a Creator. I don't see how someone can be an Atheist anymore than I can see how someone can be a Christian. Atheists deny the existence of God but to do so requires faith since they can't prove that God doesn't exist and our very existence screams of creation. Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah though he doesn't fit most, if any, of the criteria of what the Messiah would be that were set out in the old testament. I don't believe any of the organized religions or any person knows the true nature of the creator. We are limited to 5 senses, there is much in the universe we cannot see or touch or smell or taste.
Padawanbater2
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I'd consider myself an agnostic atheist, in that I don't know if a god exists, but I also don't believe one does, because no evidence so far has convinced me.
I believe no belief is better than a false one.
I disagree how our existence screams of creation, could you provide examples of why you believe it does?
In the last couple sentences of your response, are you saying you believe basically because there is still much to be answered, much we currently can't explain?
Heisenberg
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You have a misconception of what an atheist necessarily says. A non-theist does not necessarily say god does not exist, though I agree that to do so requires a leap of faith. One can be an atheist and be completely without faith. All that is required is the failure to be convinced by the theist's argument. IOW, a person does not need to make a positive claim to be atheist, they simply need to reject the claim made be theists. I am not convinced of God, yet I can not prove to myself he doesn't exist. In the eyes of the theist, I am atheist. Knowing I am atheist tells you one thing, that I do not buy the theist's argument, but it does not tell you that I make the positive claim that there is no god. You have to ask for more clarification beyond the label of atheist to find that out.
MHA1990
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When I was about seven I realized how similar it sounded to the fairy tales I had been hearing most of my life, I realized how fucking stupid a talking snake sounded. Honestly, the bible is pile of racist, sexist horse shit written by old white men who pretended to be under the guise of an all mighty being to gain power and influence.
I personally don't believe in god, and have nothing against people who believe in god, as my beef is with religious institutions. Spirituality itself isn't the problem, its when people go around parading their beliefs asking non-believers or people of different religions why their such idiots.
I personally don't believe in god, and have nothing against people who believe in god, as my beef is with religious institutions. Spirituality itself isn't the problem, its when people go around parading their beliefs asking non-believers or people of different religions why their such idiots.
Hepheastus420
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I find it weird to insult god.. It's like realizing your imaginary friend isn't real and then insulting this imaginary friend.