Noob here looking for a little insight.

Alright so long story short, a local hydroponics shop had a used Cash Crop 5.0 for a pretty reasonable deal so i picked it up. Well I have happened among 2 seeds, but have failed with both so far, the first one popped open, but that is all it did after 2 weeks, no lengthening of the taproot or anything and has since turned to mush which seems like what I can tell it seems like it may have gotten too much water. I soaked the seed, I do admit that I attempted the paper towel method the first time, the moment I saw the root emerge I put it in a rapid rooter inside the cash crop 5.0 where it sat for 2 weeks. Is this a case of just crap luck, the micro roots possibly damaged from the paper towel, I used distilled water, is it just a bad seed, because the second seed I tried to soak in a glass of water for 12 hours "it sank to the bottom in about 7 hours, and I moved it straight to the rapid rooter in the hydroponics setup with distilled water to avoid any chance of root damage. Please any information and guidance is greatly accepted.

What is your environment like? Lights?

When I was doing the paper towel method I had placed it inside the grow cabinet with a house hold lamp inside with the fan running just to bring the temps up a hair to around 80 degrees F and to help with the RH at which point the seed popped, I used tweezers to move the seed into the rapid rooter. Water temp is about 78. I have not been turning the grow light on for the fact that no leaves, no need for the grow lamp correct?

Well as soon as the seed pops it has leaves. Not sure if it needs the light on to emerge from the soil but I always put the light on it before it breaks the soil. Try that and see. U could've gotten some bad seeds, it happens. But turn your light on lol

Will do, these are just some seeds from a friends stash, the stuff was pretty damn good so I was hoping to be able to get the strand but once again, i've only got 2 seeds and they were both out of their stashes from the past 3 months. But I did buy a few online so if nothing else im hoping to have better luck with them. But everyone must start somewhere.

I hope you got a screaming deal on that Cash Crop 5.0 because those things are basically worthless. You can by a tent, decent light, fan and charcoal filter for less than what they charge for those things.
Next time pop your seeds directly in soil. Soak for 8 - 12 hours in tap water then place 1/8th - 1/4" in damp soil. Do not over water. Make sure you have enough light to prevent long skinny stems after they sprout.

Well my plan was to use this box to get clones/start seeds and such started, and I will be investing into a tent shortly, I got it for $125 i figured I could make some sort of use out of it. Since i/m doing hydroponics the rapid rooters should work good correct?

Mello-Budz said:

Well my plan was to use this box to get clones/start seeds and such started, and I will be investing into a tent shortly, I got it for $125 i figured I could make some sort of use out of it. Since i/m doing hydroponics the rapid rooters should work good correct?

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I guess you did ok for $125 since they're selling them for $500 online and it will work for seedlings or clones. You'll definitely need something bigger once you start flowering. Good luck.

I have a 7ft X 10ft room I plan to set up for this, I was thinking about doing half for flowering and the other half for vegetative or 1/3 flowering and 2/3 vegetative so I can keep a rotation going. Haven't decided what would be best yet tho

It may have been some bad seeds. usually if it pops it will at least grow to seedling stage.

1. Do not use distilled or RO water. Use some bottled water, put seeds in a shot glass and let them sit in it for 14-18 hours max whether they crack open or not.
2. Take some paper towel and wet it with the same bottled water. You want it to be fairly moist but no pooling of water. Cover with more paper tower and hydrate more. KEEP MOIST all times. Check on it several times a day. Keep it in a warm dark OPEN place. Seeds need to be able to sense moisture, warmth and air.
3. When tap roots are 1/4 to 1.5 inches you can transplant to your medium tap root down.

I like to hit the seeds with my 1k MH as soon as they break the medium surface. Sun does it so why not.

Your seed went to mush due to either too much water/heat or it was unsanitary conditions or handling which got germs breeding and attacking the seed. always wash hands before handling wet seeds and never touch the tap root.

xtsho said:

I hope you got a screaming deal on that Cash Crop 5.0 because those things are basically worthless. You can by a tent, decent light, fan and charcoal filter for less than what they charge for those things.
Next time pop your seeds directly in soil. Soak for 8 - 12 hours in tap water then place 1/8th - 1/4" in damp soil. Do not over water. Make sure you have enough light to prevent long skinny stems after they sprout.

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+1 more for straight in soil. It's natural.
I barely cover the seed and have my lights already on.

i do paper towel method, just get it wet enough to hold as much water as it can without dripping, place a few seeds and fold it over and put it inside of a ziplock bag and blow some air in it so its like airy pillow and from then on just give it 24 hours of darkness in a warm darm cabinet like above your stove or fridge or something. check back in 24-36 hours for germinated seeds ready for whatever medium you use. use a chop stick or your finger to poke a hole 1/8th - 1/4 inch below the surface, taproot facing down and loosely cover the seed. 24 hours later you should have a sprout.

i also like to soak my medium (i use soil) as im starting the germination process as once the seeds are ready the medium is the perfect dampness and its ready to take the seed.

as long as the seed produces a taproot i have 100% success using this method.

xtsho said:

I guess you did ok for $125 since they're selling them for $500 online and it will work for seedlings or clones. You'll definitely need something bigger once you start flowering. Good luck.

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I don't know...if it does what its doing to this lady then it might be well worth it...

Thanks for the information guys, Ill definitely try some of these techniques once I get my seed shipment. I mean i've managed to germinated a seed in sand before, I just wondering if I was doing something completely wrong or if they were just duds. Im feeling a little bit better knowing that my thoughts were not way off. Mail order seeds just take a while to get here. as a beginner I went with some auto-flowering strands. If I get these to go well then ill more than likely go to the photo seeds. Man I wish a girl would look at me the same way shes looking at the box. Haaaa.

Mello-Budz said:

Thanks for the information guys, Ill definitely try some of these techniques once I get my seed shipment. I mean i've managed to germinated a seed in sand before, I just wondering if I was doing something completely wrong or if they were just duds. Im feeling a little bit better knowing that my thoughts were not way off. Mail order seeds just take a while to get here. as a beginner I went with some auto-flowering strands. If I get these to go well then ill more than likely go to the photo seeds. Man I wish a girl would look at me the same way shes looking at the box. Haaaa.

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Auto flowers tend to be more finicky than photo strains. Feed light until they get bigger and keep the light on 18/6 or 20/4.

I will keep that in mind in the future. Kind of learning as I go. What do you guys think would be best once I get my set up going? having a room 2/3 veg and the other 1/3 for flowering? Going to try and stagger where roughly every 2 weeks ill be able to harvest, or should I just do 1/2 and 1/2. Im looking for efficiency in the future and trying to plan this out.

Or would a better question be, If you guys had a 7ft x 10ft room, what/how would you have it set up? what type/kind of system.

Why not just put in soil make it damp and wait that’s what I do and all my seeds come to life

Because after im done, the soil will be difficult for me to get rid of after a while, I live in a city and have a little under 1/4 acre of land. Id have to drive about 35mins+ just to get to a location to dump it.

Well sorry bud I tried