noob leave ? with pics

these were both bag seed on 10/10 /09 one is bigger and the leaves are cupping inwards and the other is smaller and the leaves are saggy.are they ok or i'm i messing something up.this is my first grow,if you need any info i'll answer back asap..i wait for the soil to feel dry when i stick my finger in it then i give it 2-3 coffee cups full of water with mg but only half what they say(i know mg sucks. i'm going to get shultz of fox farms this week) should i give them plain water ever ?

they look really good to me.. the only iffy one to me is the one in the fourth snap.. it looks a little droopy to me.... i was having this problem, but it seemed after i feed them with my fox farms nutes, they perked right up... i feed one watering, water with plain phed water the next time.. feed, water, feed, water...etc...
i wouldn't be too worried... they look pretty nice to me.. go gentile with the mg nutes, which it looks like you are... nice job.. keep it up......

johnny12r said:

these were both bag seed on 10/10 /09 one is bigger and the leaves are cupping inwards and the other is smaller and the leaves are saggy.are they ok or i'm i messing something up.this is my first grow,if you need any info i'll answer back asap..i wait for the soil to feel dry when i stick my finger in it then i give it 2-3 coffee cups full of water with mg but only half what they say(i know mg sucks. i'm going to get shultz of fox farms this week) should i give them plain water ever ?

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Being that you are using MG soil do not give them any nutes for at least a month

Also you are gonna need to transplant them soon.

Make sure you mix the soil with perlite, and please only give them a very little nutes

pic 3 and 4 are the same plant do i need to know my water and my soil ph? if so what should they be?(i'll have to get some thing this weekend to test with)also on the nutes i see stuff like 20/20/20 or 15/10/15 what are these and how do i know?at a month old what should it be and how do i know if it right? thanks for the help

i'm not in mg soil i'm in pro Gardner garden soil, mixed heavy with perlite.

sorry I misread

yes, you do want to be checking your water ph.. it should be between 6.5 and 6.8.. get a good digital ph meter... they can be pricey, but are well worth it...around $75 or so for a good one.. and get ph up and down to adjust with.. you also want to ph your nute solution, but wait till after you put the nutes in to check it.. let me tell you why.. my tap water is around 8.6, and after i add my fox farms nutes, it drops it down to right around 6.6, and i don't need any farther ph adjustment.. so if you were to adjust it before adding your nutes, you may just end up adjusting it twice.. and it really is silly to waste your time like that, lol..
now i hate to admit this, but you should also check the ph of your soil, but i am not exactly sure of where it should be, so i don't want to give you some bum advice...
those number you mentioned are the npk ratios of the nutes.. nitrogen, phosphurus and postasium... that much i know.. i am not sure how you know what they should be.. i know my fox farms stuff is around 10/8/7 or something like that.. but like i said.. its just a ratio of what is in it, so 30/20/30 should be the same as 3/2/3 if that makes anykind of sense to you.
hope this helps you out some.

Guano is an excellent fertilizer you can get high nitrogen and high phosphorus and its cheap. the numbers are your N-P-K(nitrogen-phosphorus-potasium) value of the fertilizer. Not sure but hope this helps. About your leaves, mine have done it before too if I get my H.I.D.'s too close. the cupping is usually due to heat. I don't usually get droopy plants I'm more of a hydro person but on occasion I will do one in soil.

so will those #'s be on the nute bottle? shultz or fox farms i want the highest #'s they have?how about for bloom boost what i'm i looking for?