North Carolina outdoor 2009

Dude my plants are all 3-5 foot tall and just as wide. And they're just leaving pots today, and there's still more than three months of growth left. And this is only my second grow and hasn't got a whole hell of a lot of attention. I think they should be plenty big, and I know there are people that do it exponentially larger than me around here.

Also most of the soil is solid red clay and rock, and most people don't have the backbone to pick one decent sized hole out of this bullshit....let alone ten monsters.

And I don't know about skimpy size or slow growth. Mine are exploding with growth and the stems are as solid as sharpies. Also the nugs I grew last year were dense as our representatives.

Not to mention the fact that generalizing a whole state is pretty waa waa to begin with.

Angus said:

the nugs I grew last year were dense as our representatives.

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O.K. well your previous pics do suffice to qualify you as an exception IMO, but the majority (mines included) don't really... "thrive" in the outdoors and produce quantity yields. I personally think it's hard for growers to pull the 2-4 Ounce average if a plant is grown outdoors guerilla style even if put out Mid-April.

millner said:

But why is it that most people who grow in North Carolina look like their plants have low yields compared to the average grower???!!!
I don't know why this is so?! Outdoors the conditions are right but why is it that plants here grow skimpy buds and slow growth???!!!

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I don't know what you have been looking at but NC is the fucking tits for dank outdoor bud!

Maybe you and your boys are growing it wrong?

DownOnWax said:

I don't know what you have been looking at but NC is the fucking tits for dank outdoor bud!

Maybe you and your boys are growing it wrong?

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Yea man but I'm talking about YIELDS, it's widely known that regardless of where the bud is at it will produce dank buds (i.e. shaded spot, sunny spot, california, or new york) it just depends on how much you get out of it. Anyways, I try to follow all the outdoor grow guides by supplying Mary Jane with all she needs (good soil, mucho sunlight, fertilizers organic/inorganic, water, etc.) so I don't think its that I don't know how to grow but simply the average growing rules don't really apply to this state.
I.e. maybe there needs to be a modification to the amount of time that MJ needs in its vegetative state?? Possibly starting in earlier to in order to attain the same goal as the average grower.

millner said:

Yea man but I'm talking about YIELDS, it's widely known that regardless of where the bud is at it will produce dank buds (i.e. shaded spot, sunny spot, california, or new york) it just depends on how much you get out of it. Anyways, I try to follow all the outdoor grow guides by supplying Mary Jane with all she needs (good soil, mucho sunlight, fertilizers organic/inorganic, water, etc.) so I don't think its that I don't know how to grow but simply the average growing rules don't really apply to this state.
I.e. maybe there needs to be a modification to the amount of time that MJ needs in its vegetative state?? Possibly starting in earlier to in order to attain the same goal as the average goal.

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I have seen 12-15 foot tall plants grown in Western North Carolina that produce easily a pound per plant.

But if you are trying to compare NC with Southern California (or any long growing season climate) then SoCal beats us out because they basically have a year round growing season.

The longer the growing season, the bigger plants you are going to get but most of NC still has a 7-8 month growing window so Monsters can be grown in the state.

Shit, 2-4 ounce average? I get that with my indoor plants.

DownOnWax said:

I have seen 12-15 foot tall plants grown in Western North Carolina that produce easily a pound per plant.

But if you are trying to compare NC with Southern California (or any long growing season climate) then SoCal beats us out because they basically have a year round growing season.

The longer the growing season, the bigger plants you are going to get but most of NC still has a 7-8 month growing window so Monsters can be grown in the state.

Shit, 2-4 ounce average? I get that with my indoor plants.

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Don't quote me but I think that NoCal would be the same climate as NC around mendocino and humbolt. maybe cali gets a little more sun and different humidity but it seems like it is close to North Western NC.

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DownOnWax said:

Shit, 2-4 ounce average? I get that with my indoor plants.

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I was about to comment on that.

I'd be so disappointed if I pull 3 ounces apiece.

If you plant semi early (early april) or veg inside for a month or two (beyond some's means, but a real headstart) and give it good care, soil, light, and ample rootspace you'll get fat yields of dank buds.

Now these people who start theirs in their window sill in may, move it out at six inches in early june, leave them in small pots of miracle grow in the shade and feed them buckets of chemical nutes and too much water....well...some of them happen to reside here.

...but we can't do anything about it and it sure as hell doesn't have anything to do with the climate. I've seen plants grown here that I don't even want to describe because people won't believe me.

It's the grower, not the location. The netherlands and b.c. are both famous for good bud and both have much worse weather and shorter season than we do here.

chasenuggethed said:

Don't quote me but I think that NoCal would be the same climate as NC around mendocino and humbolt. maybe cali gets a little more sun and different humidity but it seems like it is close to North Western NC.

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Yeah, I guess the lat is similar but the climate is very different. For example the west coast has drier summers and humid winters. It's the opposite here. There are far more important differences, but that's just off the top of my head.

Angus said:

Yeah, I guess the lat is similar but the climate is very different. For example the west coast has drier summers and humid winters. It's the opposite here. There are far more important differences, but that's just off the top of my head.

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yeah, I can't say for sure about NoCal's climate cause I never been there but was thinkin it was close because of the lattitude being close North Western NC. Speaking of which I personally feel herb enjoys the NC environment better. lol It's just that great...

chasenuggethed said:

yeah, I can't say for sure about NoCal's climate cause I never been there but was thinkin it was close because of the lattitude being close North Western NC. Speaking of which I personally feel herb enjoys the NC environment better. lol It's just that great...

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IF WE R TALKING LATTITUDES IM THE SAME AS NORTH AFRICA AND IN A STATE THAT COOD ARGUEABLY B THE #1 PRODUCING BUD STATE IN THA NATION SAYS THA DEA

Oh yea, if anyone can offer some advice somewhat related to this thread: What's your take on growing sativas at this time of year? Going to recieve some outdoor sativa dominant seeds around next week and would like to know the prospects on starting a sativa strain at a time like this (mix of bhudda, super silver haze, thai, etc. and most take about 10 weeks to flower).

I think you will be ok Milner. Might not get the yield you want, but they should finish or get really really close.

Visited the girls tonight. Everything looks good. Here's a few pics.

WW

pinkjackyle said:

IF WE R TALKING LATTITUDES IM THE SAME AS NORTH AFRICA AND IN A STATE THAT COOD ARGUEABLY B THE #1 PRODUCING BUD STATE IN THA NATION SAYS THA DEA

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Dude, I read your posts all the time, and you seem like a pretty smart guy? Is there a reason you do the all caps thing? It's a pain to read.

millner said:

Oh yea, if anyone can offer some advice somewhat related to this thread: What's your take on growing sativas at this time of year? Going to recieve some outdoor sativa dominant seeds around next week and would like to know the prospects on starting a sativa strain at a time like this (mix of bhudda, super silver haze, thai, etc. and most take about 10 weeks to flower).

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I can't think of any reason that the time you start them would effect when they finished. Unless it's already late july-august.

WilliamWonka said:

I think you will be ok Milner. Might not get the yield you want, but they should finish or get really really close.

Visited the girls tonight. Everything looks good. Here's a few pics.

WW

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Looking good dude.

millner said:

Oh yea, if anyone can offer some advice somewhat related to this thread: What's your take on growing sativas at this time of year? Going to recieve some outdoor sativa dominant seeds around next week and would like to know the prospects on starting a sativa strain at a time like this (mix of bhudda, super silver haze, thai, etc. and most take about 10 weeks to flower).

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You should be OK if you get them started ASAP. And I would let them go all the way until the very first frost before trying to harvest.

I have started some sativas in May and still wished by the end of the season I had a little more time.

Some Sativas just take sooo damn long to finish.

Thanks alot guys, I'll get them started! It also looks like we may get a T-storm tomorrow.

millner said:

Thanks alot guys, I'll get them started! It also looks like we may get a T-storm tomorrow.

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40% here.

Yah 40%, that's why I included the word 'may'.

millner said:

Yah 40%, that's why I included the word 'may'.

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i think you are way good millner....you got altleast 90 days till frost if were lucky ...so i say go for it and i would FIM or top like crazy like im doin for super crop and safety.