Northern Lights + Blackberry Kush Coco Grow

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Illumination

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glennid10t said:
Im a little confused...of course foliage feeds production. Do you do ANY trimming of your plants?
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I have found that the plant is much better at losing what it doesn't need than I am at choosing it....I top for 4 mains and that is it...other than pulling occasional yellowed beyond functional leaves

Namaste':peace:
 
glennid10t

glennid10t

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Illumination said:
I have found that the plant is much better at losing what it doesn't need than I am at choosing it....I top for 4 mains and that is it...other than pulling occasional yellowed beyond functional leaves

Namaste':peace:
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I like your thinking! I would rather not ever trim again, but...every plant that "buds" benefits from pruning away less viable branches, in order increase production in the "chosen ones". It also allows more light and air penetration. That's the philosophy I currently use...im curious now.
Do you grow sativa or indica dominant strains? Or do you think it matters?
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Illumination

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Wouldn't know as I do not ever do anything but top...have grown both...I prefer sats for growing and use..average 2-5 oz per plant ...have found no proof that removing foliage does anything beneficial

Namaste'
 
pazuzu420

pazuzu420

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glennid10t said:
I like your thinking! I would rather not ever trim again, but...every plant that "buds" benefits from pruning away less viable branches, in order increase production in the "chosen ones". It also allows more light and air penetration. That's the philosophy I currently use...im curious now.
Do you grow sativa or indica dominant strains? Or do you think it matters?
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I was looking at the cola's in your pic and was wondering if you had to bend them down out of the light as the one on the right seems to have quite a large bend in it or did it just grow that way from the sheer weight of the cola?
 
glennid10t

glennid10t

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pazuzu420 said:
I was looking at the cola's in your pic and was wondering if you had to bend them down out of the light as the one on the right seems to have quite a large bend in it or did it just grow that way from the sheer weight of the cola?
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Hi Paz-. That pic is basically 1 plant...lemon kush...1 week before harvest. Because of the way I tie down and trim, i seem to get higher yields and bigger denser buds than my friend who is using the same clones, in dirt with no trimming strategy. The weight and density of these colas can be a problem...I have to fashion a sort of "net" to support the tops, which makes the last couple bucket changes a bitch...but i have proven to myself...it is worth it.
The "bend" is natural...i will upload a pic to show how my giant buds love the light...lol

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damiano

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glennid10t said:
Hi Paz-. That pic is basically 1 plant...lemon kush...1 week before harvest. Because of the way I tie down and trim, i seem to get higher yields and bigger denser buds than my friend who is using the same clones, in dirt with no trimming strategy. The weight and density of these colas can be a problem...I have to fashion a sort of "net" to support the tops, which makes the last couple bucket changes a bitch...but i have proven to myself...it is worth it.
The "bend" is natural...i will upload a pic to show how my giant buds love the light...lol

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here's a picture of my northern berries:
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hahahaha! fucking retard.
 
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Illumination

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glennid10t said:
I like your thinking! I would rather not ever trim again, but...every plant that "buds" benefits from pruning away less viable branches, in order increase production in the "chosen ones". It also allows more light and air penetration. That's the philosophy I currently use...im curious now.
Do you grow sativa or indica dominant strains? Or do you think it matters?
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No other plants are "pruned" as you suggest...as fay as I am aware...could you please refer me to any other than cannabis growers which do this?
 
glennid10t

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Illumination said:
No other plants are "pruned" as you suggest...as fay as I am aware...could you please refer me to any other than cannabis growers which do this?
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Hi illumination. I've have tried "sea of green " method...which is basically growing a bunch of small clones concentrating on the main top to become the one main cola. The benefit of this method is that you greatly reduce veg time which allows for quicker harvests. It does work, and many people I know use that method. I don't...simply because I wanted to get away from using soil.

I've tried "topping"...which is basically removing/sacrificing a top growth to do 2 things. 1. Forcing the "top hormones" to go out to side branch. 2. Slow down upper growth, allowing side branches to catch up. The benefits of this method is that you can change the shape of the plant to receive maximum light and, especially with fast growing strains it helps to "control" height.

I've tried the natural selection method too...well, I still did some trimming at beginning of bud phase. The benefit is that it allows the plant to do what its genetics tell it to do....and of course...less work for the grower. I don't do this anymore since im inside with only a couple plants.

FOR ME...I get my results from bending over the main stalk within the first couple weeks of veg. I find that if your main stalk is lower than your side branches, it forces those special hormones that create "tops" to be forced back into the plant to seek out the highest growth. After another week from bending...the plant has recovered and I gently "tie down" side branches, concentrating on bringing upper branches down to the height of lower branches. This creates a wider canopy and as the plant grows these branches reach upward towards the light. I will limit each branch to produce only 1 or 2 inner branches. These inner branches grow up through the middle but don't usually become a top. I stay vigilant and remove small new growth because i dont want just weed...i want big buds. About 3 weeks into bud...there is a need to support the plant due to the heavy tops over weighting the support branch. I will then create a "net" to help the tops stand upright.

Then I just wait for the trichomes to get milky white...some amber...then harvest...then cure.

I have no intention of changing anyones mind or philosophy when it comes to growing. I dont know your goals and i dont know your level of knowledge. I signed up to find other growers with pictures and wisdom to see how I can apply it to my situation. In turn...I give my experience when applicable.
As far as your desire to to see "other growers (NOT pot) who prune plants to increase production"...well, its simply too numerous, fruit, nuts, roses, tomatoes..etc all benefit.
Your statement that you don't know because you haven't tried...says to me... you will need to try it to prove it for yourself. I would suggest not over thinking it...but at least think about it.
good luck!
This pic is 5 minutes before harvest!
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Illumination

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glennid10t said:
Hi illumination. I've have tried "sea of green " method...which is basically growing a bunch of small clones concentrating on the main top to become the one main cola. The benefit of this method is that you greatly reduce veg time which allows for quicker harvests. It does work, and many people I know use that method. I don't...simply because I wanted to get away from using soil.

I've tried "topping"...which is basically removing/sacrificing a top growth to do 2 things. 1. Forcing the "top hormones" to go out to side branch. 2. Slow down upper growth, allowing side branches to catch up. The benefits of this method is that you can change the shape of the plant to receive maximum light and, especially with fast growing strains it helps to "control" height.

I've tried the natural selection method too...well, I still did some trimming at beginning of bud phase. The benefit is that it allows the plant to do what its genetics tell it to do....and of course...less work for the grower. I don't do this anymore since im inside with only a couple plants.

FOR ME...I get my results from bending over the main stalk within the first couple weeks of veg. I find that if your main stalk is lower than your side branches, it forces those special hormones that create "tops" to be forced back into the plant to seek out the highest growth. After another week from bending...the plant has recovered and I gently "tie down" side branches, concentrating on bringing upper branches down to the height of lower branches. This creates a wider canopy and as the plant grows these branches reach upward towards the light. I will limit each branch to produce only 1 or 2 inner branches. These inner branches grow up through the middle but don't usually become a top. I stay vigilant and remove small new growth because i dont want just weed...i want big buds. About 3 weeks into bud...there is a need to support the plant due to the heavy tops over weighting the support branch. I will then create a "net" to help the tops stand upright.

Then I just wait for the trichomes to get milky white...some amber...then harvest...then cure.

I have no intention of changing anyones mind or philosophy when it comes to growing. I dont know your goals and i dont know your level of knowledge. I signed up to find other growers with pictures and wisdom to see how I can apply it to my situation. In turn...I give my experience when applicable.
As far as your desire to to see "other growers (NOT pot) who prune plants to increase production"...well, its simply too numerous, fruit, nuts, roses, tomatoes..etc all benefit.
Your statement that you don't know because you haven't tried...says to me... you will need to try it to prove it for yourself. I would suggest not over thinking it...but at least think about it.
good luck!
This pic is 5 minutes before harvest!
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Have done topping, lst, supercropping, along with combinations of the three...I have found that supercropping doesn't produce the bud structure I desire, lst is too much trouble for what if any gain, but topping for 4 mains, a long veg and larger plants is the most productive and by far the simplest and have found it to yield better than au natural. Sog is of no interest as I prefer older plants and grow from seed as I prefer the variety and the "gems". I appreciate the info you shared but am already quite well versed on the hobby and all its variations. After I complete my all fem crossbreeding project my next methodology experiment will be monster cropping or revegging flowering clones as it looks as though it increases production as well as potency. My main goal is always potency and that tends to limit yield tyo a dgree so want to see if it is the best of both worlds.


Namaste':peace:
 
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damiano

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first, i cut every single leaf off of my plants. then, i tape them all back on with duct tape. finally, during the last 3 weeks of harvest, i flush with pure epsom salt water. you should try it!
 
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damiano

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glennid10t said:
Hi illumination. I've have tried "sea of green " method...which is basically growing a bunch of small clones concentrating on the main top to become the one main cola. The benefit of this method is that you greatly reduce veg time which allows for quicker harvests. It does work, and many people I know use that method. I don't...simply because I wanted to get away from using soil.

I've tried "topping"...which is basically removing/sacrificing a top growth to do 2 things. 1. Forcing the "top hormones" to go out to side branch. 2. Slow down upper growth, allowing side branches to catch up. The benefits of this method is that you can change the shape of the plant to receive maximum light and, especially with fast growing strains it helps to "control" height.

I've tried the natural selection method too...well, I still did some trimming at beginning of bud phase. The benefit is that it allows the plant to do what its genetics tell it to do....and of course...less work for the grower. I don't do this anymore since im inside with only a couple plants.

FOR ME...I get my results from bending over the main stalk within the first couple weeks of veg. I find that if your main stalk is lower than your side branches, it forces those special hormones that create "tops" to be forced back into the plant to seek out the highest growth. After another week from bending...the plant has recovered and I gently "tie down" side branches, concentrating on bringing upper branches down to the height of lower branches. This creates a wider canopy and as the plant grows these branches reach upward towards the light. I will limit each branch to produce only 1 or 2 inner branches. These inner branches grow up through the middle but don't usually become a top. I stay vigilant and remove small new growth because i dont want just weed...i want big buds. About 3 weeks into bud...there is a need to support the plant due to the heavy tops over weighting the support branch. I will then create a "net" to help the tops stand upright.

Then I just wait for the trichomes to get milky white...some amber...then harvest...then cure.

I have no intention of changing anyones mind or philosophy when it comes to growing. I dont know your goals and i dont know your level of knowledge. I signed up to find other growers with pictures and wisdom to see how I can apply it to my situation. In turn...I give my experience when applicable.
As far as your desire to to see "other growers (NOT pot) who prune plants to increase production"...well, its simply too numerous, fruit, nuts, roses, tomatoes..etc all benefit.
Your statement that you don't know because you haven't tried...says to me... you will need to try it to prove it for yourself. I would suggest not over thinking it...but at least think about it.
good luck!
This pic is 5 minutes before harvest!
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it says that picture if from june 2. don't be playinn hahahaaa
 
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damiano

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glennid10t said:
Well, northern berry is easier to type than northern lights crossed with blackberry kush, but that's what is on the left side. The right side is afghooie .....afghan crossed with...geez, it slips my mind right now...lol
anyway...I have pics of my last few experiences, but finding this site cumbersome when using my phone to post them.
Any advice to make it easier?
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you sound like a fucking babling retard. get the fuck off this thread.
 
glennid10t

glennid10t

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damiano said:
you sound like a fucking babling retard. get the fuck off this thread.
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Damiano...I was showing an example of my last crop...right before harvest. Im currently 2 weeks into bud with different plants.
if you really dispute anything I've said...name calling is sorta childish...don't cha think?

I apologize if I've offended anyone else. I didn't try to. Sorry.
 
shell

shell

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glennid10t said:
Damiano...I was showing an example of my last crop...right before harvest. Im currently 2 weeks into bud with different plants.
if you really dispute anything I've said...name calling is sorta childish...don't cha think?

I apologize if I've offended anyone else. I didn't try to. Sorry.
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Shut up glennid10t. Go to someone elses thread.
 
shell

shell

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Ahahaha you can report posts and I did it to YOU Mr Glenn! I think I broke the rules of "you can only report posts IF...." but fuck it. Anyhow we're about to dump this thread anyway (not really, cause we don't know how to actually close a thread), but maybe start a new one following our next grow since we're changing everything around. We are using a new organic soil mix; it's taken like a month of driving around to and calling all these god damn farm supply stores, nurseries and hydro stores to find what we need... and I think we are going to try using MH bulbs to flower this time instead of HPS, because MH gets so much brighter! We'll let you know what's up when we switch the lights on... won't be too much longer!
 
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Illumination

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shell said:
Ahahaha you can report posts and I did it to YOU Mr Glenn! I think I broke the rules of "you can only report posts IF...." but fuck it. Anyhow we're about to dump this thread anyway (not really, cause we don't know how to actually close a thread), but maybe start a new one following our next grow since we're changing everything around. We are using a new organic soil mix; it's taken like a month of driving around to and calling all these god damn farm supply stores, nurseries and hydro stores to find what we need... and I think we are going to try using MH bulbs to flower this time instead of HPS, because MH gets so much brighter! We'll let you know what's up when we switch the lights on... won't be too much longer!
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cool...thank you...mh is cool...cmh rules...one love
 
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