Not a good week for Private spaceflight

Canna Sylvan said:
That's now. You said 1,000 years.

According to wiki,

"] Voyager 1 is expected to continue its mission until 2025, when its generators will no longer supply enough power to operate any of its instruments."
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It was late and I was stoned. Sorry. You understand.

haha

Back to the post that threw this out of whack for me:

Canna Sylvan said:
What good will that do those a thousand years from now? Vyger and Earth aren't on speaking terms anymore.
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Absolutely no good at all. I was trying to illustrate how difficult it would be to satisfy Harrekins curiosity when our fastest ship is over 1000 years away.
 
Glaucoma said:
The human body can't survive without gravity for that long. You'd have to build a huge spinning station if you wanna live on it for any large length of time. You'd start going blind and whatnot.
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Mars has about 1/3 the gravity earth. I'm not sure it would be sufficient. At least in space you could build a spinning habitat to simulate gravity.

The moon would be an option also. It has gravity and I'd rather be on a lunar colony over a Martian one.
 
I see this as a great way to reduce our population.

Build a big ass space ship and promise a new world to those who get on board.

Then just send them out into space, and "lose communications" part way into the trip.

They didn't want to be here anyway, so fuck them.
 
SmokeyDan said:
Mars has about 1/3 the gravity earth. I'm not sure it would be sufficient. At least in space you could build a spinning habitat to simulate gravity.

The moon would be an option also. It has gravity and I'd rather be on a lunar colony over a Martian one.
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Mars has higher gravity that the Moon...
 
SmokeyDan said:
Mars has about 1/3 the gravity earth. I'm not sure it would be sufficient. At least in space you could build a spinning habitat to simulate gravity.

The moon would be an option also. It has gravity and I'd rather be on a lunar colony over a Martian one.
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I'm not sure there would be enough gravity either, but I do know that building an ark is way beyond our reach at this point.
 
spandy said:
I see this as a great way to reduce our population.

Build a big ass space ship and promise a new world to those who get on board.

Then just send them out into space, and "lose communications" part way into the trip.

They didn't want to be here anyway, so fuck them.
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Such a myopic view..

Staying on Earth is inevitably a death sentence for our kind. As an 'advanced' species who is able to leave its home planet, it seems foolish to me not to grow beyond that home.

That's what humans do. We push further and further. This is no different. In fact, I have a suspicion that when the first off-world human colony becomes totally self-sufficient, they are going to flip Earth the finger just like America did to the Crown. It's always the same shit over and over.. just on a larger and larger scale. Now that we've run out of useful room on our planet.. time to get another one.
 
Glaucoma said:
Such a myopic view..

Staying on Earth is inevitably a death sentence for our kind. As an 'advanced' species who is able to leave its home planet, it seems foolish to me not to grow beyond that home.

That's what humans do. We push further and further. This is no different. In fact, I have a suspicion that when the first off-world human colony becomes totally self-sufficient, they are going to flip Earth the finger just like America did to the Crown. It's always the same shit over and over.. just on a larger and larger scale. Now that we've run out of useful room on our planet.. time to get another one.
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When I run out of room in the closest, I dispatch unwanted items with prejudice. I don't go looking for a bigger house.

Besides, going extinct wouldn't be the end of any world, just us. Dinosaurs didn't seem to have a problem with it, at least I've never heard one complain.
 
spandy said:
I see this as a great way to reduce our population.

Build a big ass space ship and promise a new world to those who get on board.

Then just send them out into space, and "lose communications" part way into the trip.

They didn't want to be here anyway, so fuck them.
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gee i thought your idea of population control was already tried with showers and ovens
 
Harrekin said:
Therefore if you're being a bitch about the micro-gravity on Mars, it's about 2x as bad on the Moon.

Plus the moon contains nothing of use, whatsoever.
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The moon likely has an abundance of water ice and helium3.

We know of nothing of use on Mars either.

I wasn't hitching about the gravity of mars, just expressing doubt that it has enough gravity for healthy human development.

A person born and raised on Mars would likely not be able to survive on earth.
 
spandy said:
When I run out of room in the closest, I dispatch unwanted items with prejudice. I don't go looking for a bigger house.
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I guess our difference is that I don't view human beings as unwanted items that can just be thrown out on a whim.

spandy said:
Besides, going extinct wouldn't be the end of any world, just us. Dinosaurs didn't seem to have a problem with it, at least I've never heard one complain.
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Nobody said going extinct would be the end of the world. But if we continue to stay on this rock, the 'end of the world' will inevitably bring our extinction. Just like them dinobastards.

On average a species on Earth is around for 5 million years. With our intellect and abilities never before seen on Earth, we should be able to carry the torch for at least that long if we don't self destruct first. The absolute best way of insuring that is colonizing space.
 
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SmokeyDan said:
The moon likely has an abundance of water ice and helium3.

We know of nothing of use on Mars either.

I wasn't hitching about the gravity of mars, just expressing doubt that it has enough gravity for healthy human development.

A person born and raised on Mars would likely not be able to survive on earth.
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They'd be taller tho, so there is that.

Helium 3 is useless until we get fusion that provides an energy surplus and even then, have you any idea how much it would cost to get the Helium 3 somewhere useful?

And water on the moon? Source?
 
Harrekin said:
They'd be taller tho, so there is that.

Helium 3 is useless until we get fusion that provides an energy surplus and even then, have you any idea how much it would cost to get the Helium 3 somewhere useful?

And water on the moon? Source?
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It's water ice.

From what I've gathered you have to mine it. In some regions ice crystals make up a significant amount of the dirt. It's all mixed in.

It isn't like a frozen lake.

Edit... you asked for a source.

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/ice/ice_moon.html
 
Harrekin said:
They'd be taller tho, so there is that.

Helium 3 is useless until we get fusion that provides an energy surplus and even then, have you any idea how much it would cost to get the Helium 3 somewhere useful?

And water on the moon? Source?
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Try google
 
Glaucoma said:
I guess our difference is that I don't view human beings as unwanted items that can just be thrown out on a whim.
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It wouldn't be on a whim. They've work hard to deserve their place in this world.

Glaucoma said:
Nobody said going extinct would be the end of the world. But if we continue to stay on this rock, the 'end of the world' will inevitably bring our extinction. Just like them dinobastards.

On average a species on Earth is around for 5 million years. With our intellect and abilities never before seen on Earth, we should be able to carry the torch for at least that long if we don't self destruct first. The absolute best way of insuring that is colonizing space.
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What are you trying to save if its just gonna go to shit anyway?
 
i dont think he is in that bad of shape any press is good press right? nobody expects space travel to be perfectly safe .i hear the craft was insured out the wazzoo so he basicly sold the prototype to build another and for the record i think US should have a space program just as important as the air force in my opinion we dont want to be caught with our pants down when it comes to space travel.
 
H R Puff N Stuff said:
i dont think he is in that bad of shape any press is good press right? nobody expects space travel to be perfectly safe .i hear the craft was insured out the wazzoo so he basicly sold the prototype to build another and for the record i think US should have a space program just as important as the air force in my opinion we dont want to be caught with our pants down when it comes to space travel.
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So who had sex in space first?
 
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