Not far from the chop but why the fan leaves gone so dry and brittle?

I have been flushing my Royal Dwarf for nearly a couple of weeks and probably not far from chopping her, but I have noticed that the small fan leaves have died and gone brittle. It doesnt seem to bother the cola's as they seem to doing ok.... ??? Is this normal or is this an emergency?

you got a plant that looks like that and don't know what's going on? i call bullshit

If you look at my previous posts , you will see how many seeds/seedlings were sacrificed to get this one

But thanks for the constructive advice .... Prick lol

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i couldn't possibly care any less about any post of yours...using this one as evidence you're a 16 yr old pretending to be a man in a man's world.and i venture to guess you
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2)you found a random kick ass image on the net and are using it to try to impress people.
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This guy is legitimate guys. Hey China I don't know why , I think its just end of life behavior or something but I wouldn't worry too much at this point

Kind of looks like the dead shit that was in a couple of my OD plants. I was cleaning dead crap out daily, till I got tired of servicing those two plants every day.
I had some indoor do this type of thing as well. The OD after harvest, I pulled the root ball and found black bugs in the soil. Very similar looking to a flea but longer, although black and shinny like a flea and still small like a flea just longer. No idea what they were. I think it goes beyond just normal yellowing or end of life. With my indoor that looked similar it was more like necrotic leaves, dead crap that had to be picked out. At least with mine there should have been a reason that the leaves were dieing so rapidly. It wasn't just yellowing. Maybe wind burn from a fan. My OD though it seemed like it was diseased or something, but maybe it was those damn bugs I found. I think yours will be fine, but after you harvest check the soil for bugs. I'm curious if you find anything living in the grow medium.

yeah I think you are right, something to do with pests I did grow some c99 outdoor that had mites in veg that sort of did this at the end of flower

Like as if maybe its dieing a little faster than it should, so I'm thinking bugs. Which is another reason I'm not going to be doing a long pre veg this year. I have this theory that the longer a plant is alive this just means that it gives bugs longer time to attack. I pre vegged mine starting in February indoor and when they got too big for my tent half of the plants went OD the other half stayed indoor. Those are 6 OD but it was the two on the left that something was fucky. It was some of the remaining 6 indoor that also had that necrotic leaf issue stuck in the buds towards the end of harvest, so who's to say there wasn't those black bugs in the indoor too, but I didn't think to pull the root ball and check the indoor. The OD I pulled and checked because being OD the plants should have been even better then they were and at the end I wasn't as impressed with them as they should have been, so I looked in the soil. Think I moved the OD out there in May because they just got too big for my indoor space. I wanted to wait a bit longer but just didn't have room. This f'ed me over because they ended up growing 10 foot tall, but the buds didn't get as big/dense as they could have been. Also that plant on the right got less light from that piece of plywood and being far onto that side, so it kind of got stuck between veg and bloom, but then started budding before the other plants and finished early too. Sorry, getting a bit off topic, but I'm just saying a long pre veg, really wasn't the best thing and I think keeping the plants alive for so many months it just gave more time for bugs to get established. I have a green house too, but my plants got so dang tall they were too big to move under the cover of the greenhouse once the rain season started so I had to harvest about a week or so earlier than I was planning. If I out them OD a bit later in the season they would have stayed shorter and made better buds, plus fit in the green house. Also, they basically grew as a shell. No growth inside, or on the back side (north side) of the plants. The big space or gap you see between a couple plants. Thats was a cat-tastrophy. Where the neighbors cat likes to jump into my garage. He must have thought my plants were trees and jumped on a limb but it snapped and then the domino rally effect that branch leaned on another and so on taking out a few nice big fat branches. Must of lost over a pound right there. Were huge branches, like half the plant on the right. Another thing that f'ed me up with that long pre veg was that the OD plants were liek 3 foot when I moved them OD. I still had 6 more indoor, and this was really fucked putting indoor into bloom at 3 foot tall. The 600 watts I run didn't penetrate so well through such tall plants. Most of it was sativa dominate too, and I had to do a bunch of weird super cropping, and make the plants grow horizontally from like the back of the tent to the front.

Your fine nice budz

It even crossed my mind if your plant isn't root bound. I think my issue was bugs messing with the roots. After you harvest you should check the root ball for bugs, Or be looking at just how root bound that beast got in the pot. That's my best guesses anyway. Something with the roots causing the leaves to go necrotic faster than usual.

Hi Lads , Sorry for the late reply but i was just finishing my spelling homework ......
That sounds about right Twisted ... the plant is 100% root bound and I knew it was too small but was fucking happy she was growing and not dead after 2 weeks from seed I decided to let her be, that must be the problem. I reckon shes only a few days away anyway.
Nice one .. after such a long haul I just dont wanna chop her down too early..
Cheers Crit for the heads up

I didn't have issues with getting root bound. I used smart pots so the roots get air pruned. Granted the roots grew through the bottom of the smart pots and into the soil below in the flower bed. But for the most part the roots of my trees were in the smart pots, and these trees were only in 15 gallon smart pots. The two on the left that grew like crap the whole season were actually in bigger pots too, 25 gallon but had bugs. Kind of the same idea though whether its bugs, root bound or whatever I think the common thing to consider for a plant that looks like this is that it could be something with the roots. Sorry, I'm feeling a bit redundant posting my thoughts about it again, but just felt like adding a bit more. I guess what I'm saying is I'm curious what your plant would have looked like if you had used a smart pot.

i just read the title of your thread again, when I read the part about dry and brittle. Brittle reminded me of another thing about my indoor plants that had the necrotic leaf look at harvest. All the buds from those plants had hard bud, kind of brittle in a way, but hard too. Even the sugar leaf that I mostly left on the leaf was hard too. Not really crispy though. Odd to describe, I guess you could even say they felt rough. Not sure what the right wording would be. Hardest bud I've ever felt, but not a dense hard like a rock, which they were but I'm referring to a different type of hard feeling and I'm not sure why it ended up that way. It was kind of like as if the sugar leaf bits that I left dried so hard they felt like barbs if that makes sense.

They only started to go crispy since the colas really came on, Its weird all this growing stuff, I had another wee survivor which was a freebie, it had two main stems, so I tried that LST i kept reading about , now i know it shouldn't be done drunk and stoned because i heard a snap and just thought , thats another one gone but kept her around cause she wasnt lying dead in the soil !
However she was a feisty little one and in the last couple of weeks has gone crazy.
Same nutes for weeks, now shes got tip burn?

Under watered. If she's that big and you didn't water her a few times a day you under watered. She took what she could from the fan leaves and they dried up and died when she was done. As you said, only after the colas got big. Lots of people under water at that point.

Something that could help with training would be silica. And if you are snapping branches, check if they are hollow inside, this can be from lack of calcium. I've poked a stem before with my finger and the thing leaned backwards and snapped, lol. Was hollow inside.

that makes sense canna thats why brittle ? yea its obliviously in a tiny pot, so root bound is a given? now shes not too thirsty defo... so maybe starved a little water now and again, or the nutes, or the cats, or the drunken spliffed gardener!
On the other snapping little feisty one heres a pic
Cheers Twisted and i really thought when i heard her snap that was it , but she just seemed to do nothing for a while and then went slowly then just went crazy last few days !

Being a huge plant in a smaller pot that under watering seems to make sense too. I always read they drink 3x more in bloom and especially with fat cola's.
I recall when I grew with smaller pots and it was a pain trying to keep them hydrated, with a larger pot you can go longer between watering. I just wasn't aware this was a sign of under watering. Also they take a lot more water when growing OD out in the heat and the sun blasting on them. The two of my OD that I said I found bugs, those two were in 25 gallon pots and I only gave them about the same as the other plants in the 15 gallon pots. Also the plants in 15 gallon pots were sitting on a flower bed and the roots grew through the bottom of those smart pots and into that flower bed, which the flower bed held a bunch more water under the pots. The two OD on the left however were both sitting on black plastic and there fore those two plants were not able to grow into the soil/dirt below the pots to drink any additional water. Might be onto something here. Don't think I gave enough water for those bigger pots. But found the bugs to, so was probably doomed anyway. I was already aware of part of this, but thought mine were getting enough water. Maybe it was just the bugs, I don't know. My next OD crop wont be sitting on any plastic I guarantee that much, haha. For my OD I also use mulch to help hold in moisture during the hot summer months. I use ceder mulch because moths hate ceder. The same reason a person would use a cedar clothes hanger in a closet, to keep moths away from eating their clothes. I used the cedar mulch to try and ward off moths, because it is the moths that lay eggs which hatch into caterpillars. The caterpillars eat the buds and can even eat into the stalks and then everything from that point up rots. I almost always try to double up everywhere I can with more than one functional and logical reason to do something wherever I can, when I'm aware of something. Like PSA's from G.I. Joe, knowing is half the battle. Damn caterpillars rapping my crops. Caterpillars are enemy number one every year. I also use Safer brand caterpillar killer but it don't always seem to help so much and its a bitch spraying trees. I want one of those atomizing electric sprayers. National Crop Safety Council. Damn caterpillars. I'm about to just call the Orkin man. hahaha, the bug peel'ed out in his car just like the weirdo from the G.I. Joe PSA.