NOT GUILTY ...zimmermen

schuylaar

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The thing that kills me if the two men had both been Spanish or black or white or Asian or w/e else, this never would have been a story..
Why people have to make it about race is so beyond me.. ffs, black people shoot other blacks all the damn time, does that mean the killer was a self loathing black man and hence a self racist..
Fuck no! But have a black person be killed by someone of a different color all of a sudden the Guy's a racist and doesn't deserve a fair trial..
If there are riots and shit over this it's going to make me physically I'll.. wtd does rioting and looting in the streets do to bring back a dead 17 year old? Nada a damn thing.. just like some of the disgusting shit that went on in the super dome after Katrina..
Damn Japan had an earthquake and I saw nada one store looted, not one women raped, no oneome shot nor killed.. no TV sets being handed out of the front of burning stores.. I know, I'm getting a bit off topic here, but wtf mango, were all humans trying to make it through another day, let's set aside our differences and work to make this shit hole a better place than we found it..
So, just to get this straight, your kid goes to the corner store during half time break of the All Star Game and never comes back..he's dead on the grass with a bullet to the heart..assailant cites "self defense".

You don't see anything wrong with this picture?
 

ginwilly

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So, just to get this straight, your kid goes to the corner store during half time break of the All Star Game and never comes back..he's dead on the grass with a bullet to the heart..assailant cites "self defense".

You don't see anything wrong with this picture?
This is a heartbreaker for me. I would teach my son to respect elders and not punch people (read, creepy ass crackers) following them. Bottom line though, if it were my son, I'd want an eye for an eye. i would be emotional and basing my actions off of those emotions. Logic wouldn't enter into it.
 

NLXSK1

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This is a heartbreaker for me. I would teach my son to respect elders and not punch people (read, creepy ass crackers) following them. Bottom line though, if it were my son, I'd want an eye for an eye. i would be emotional and basing my actions off of those emotions. Logic wouldn't enter into it.
I agree with this. I dont hold anything against the Martin family in their pursuit of vengance.

Race baiters like Sharpton I do have a problem with however.
 

schuylaar

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This is a heartbreaker for me. I would teach my son to respect elders and not punch people (read, creepy ass crackers) following them. Bottom line though, if it were my son, I'd want an eye for an eye. i would be emotional and basing my actions off of those emotions. Logic wouldn't enter into it.
What does respecting elders, not punching people following them have anything to do with this? YOU don't know any of this and racial profiling never enters the equation..read it again:

your kid goes to the corner store during half time break of the All Star Game and never comes back..he's dead on the grass with a bullet to the heart..assailant cites "self defense".
 

pizzapuffer

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if i had a gun and someone was on top of me pounding my head in the ground i'd shoot them too. i feel bad for the family but if everything zimmerman said is true, trayvon should not have attacked him. besides that, stay away from gated communities. if your a wannabe thug, it's a dangerous place with a neighborhood watch. also no racism was involved. even zimmerman has a little black in him. dont let the media brain wash you.
 

schuylaar

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I agree with this. I dont hold anything against the Martin family in their pursuit of vengance.

Race baiters like Sharpton I do have a problem with however.
Oh yeah, the race baiters like Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, Colter, Nugent et al; yada, yada..
 

ginwilly

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What does respecting elders, not punching people following them have anything to do with this? YOU don't know any of this and racial profiling never enters the equation..read it again:

your kid goes to the corner store during half time break of the All Star Game and never comes back..he's dead on the grass with a bullet to the heart..assailant cites "self defense".
I'd want to know what happened first. Well, that's not true, as I mentioned earlier, if it's my son, I don't care what really happened, I want someone else to feel my pain.

I only mentioned the punching because that's what his friend who was on the phone with him said. I thought we were talking about Trayvon. But if it's just"your son" and we don't have any facts, then I'm outraged. I'm outraged even if it comes out that my son was breaking into a house while zim shot him. I'm outraged if my son was killed while raping his wife. My son being killed would elicit nothing but emotion, logic would take a back seat.
 

schuylaar

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if i had a gun and someone was on top of me pounding my head in the ground i'd shoot them too. i feel bad for the family but if everything zimmerman said is true, trayvon should not have attacked him. besides that, stay away from gated communities. if your a wannabe thug, it's a dangerous place with a neighborhood watch. also no racism was involved. even zimmerman has a little black in him. dont let the media brain wash you.
Your comments = passing judgement, you don't know any of the above to be true.
 

schuylaar

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I'd want to know what happened first. Well, that's not true, as I mentioned earlier, if it's my son, I don't care what really happened, I want someone else to feel my pain.

I only mentioned the punching because that's what his friend who was on the phone with him said. I thought we were talking about Trayvon. But if it's just"your son" and we don't have any facts, then I'm outraged. I'm outraged even if it comes out that my son was breaking into a house while zim shot him. I'm outraged if my son was killed while raping his wife. My son being killed would elicit nothing but emotion, logic would take a back seat.
punching is not a fact..only this statement is and of course the assailant has the two abrasions and bloody nose..worth your child's life? What type of behavior from a teen constitutes death?

your kid goes to the corner store during half time break of the All Star Game and never comes back..he's dead on the grass with a bullet to the heart..assailant cites "self defense".
 

NLXSK1

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punching is not a fact..only this statement is and of course the assailant has the two abrasions and bloody nose..worth your child's life? What type of behavior from a teen constitutes death?

your kid goes to the corner store during half time break of the All Star Game and never comes back..he's dead on the grass with a bullet to the heart..assailant cites "self defense".
Assault and battery...
 

ginwilly

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punching is not a fact..only this statement is and of course the assailant has the two abrasions and bloody nose..worth your child's life? What type of behavior from a teen constitutes death?

your kid goes to the corner store during half time break of the All Star Game and never comes back..he's dead on the grass with a bullet to the heart..assailant cites "self defense".
Why don't you tell me what answer you want me to give so we can save some time?
 

schuylaar

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The big difference is that OJ actually WAS guilty...
GZ is guilty of culpable negligent manslaughter of a minor under the age of 18. As an adult over the age of 21, he had a responsibility as a concealed carrying gun owner, neighborhood watch captain to identify himself as such.
 

UncleBuck

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This is a heartbreaker for me. I would teach my son to respect elders and not punch people (read, creepy ass crackers) following them.
if someone followed me like zimm followed martin, ya know, in the dark in my own neighborhood while i was doing nothing wrong, both by car, then on foot after i ran, while never identifying themselves, i would fear for my life and i'm sure martin did too if he had any self preservation instincts.

that gives him every right o beat zimmerman to death as per the law. self defense.
 

ginwilly

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GZ is guilty of culpable negligent manslaughter of a minor under the age of 18. As an adult over the age of 21, he had a responsibility as a concealed carrying gun owner, neighborhood watch captain to identify himself as such.
Agree completely with this. Zim was the adult and a minor died essentially because of poor choices made. Negligent homicide seems logical to me. I wonder why the prosecution didn't take this angle?
 

UncleBuck

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if i had a gun and someone was on top of me pounding my head in the ground i'd shoot them too. i feel bad for the family but if everything zimmerman said is true, trayvon should not have attacked him. besides that, stay away from gated communities. if your a wannabe thug, it's a dangerous place with a neighborhood watch. also no racism was involved. even zimmerman has a little black in him. dont let the media brain wash you.
what a retarded and racist thing to say.
 

schuylaar

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Why don't you tell me what answer you want me to give so we can save some time?
There is no answer, ginwilly..that's the point. You would be just as upset if it were your child that ran out during commercial break never to be seen alive again..then only to have the person who put a bullet in your kids chest not be detained because of "self defense".
 

ginwilly

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Ok, that's what I thought I said. I would be very emotional and would want blood. I don't blame Trayvon's parents at all for how they feel. In fact, I think they've conducted themselves with way more class and reserve than I would.

I didn't know where you were going with that statement Schuylaar after you asked it the third time.
 

schuylaar

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if someone followed me like zimm followed martin, ya know, in the dark in my own neighborhood while i was doing nothing wrong, both by car, then on foot after i ran, while never identifying themselves, i would fear for my life and i'm sure martin did too if he had any self preservation instincts.

that gives him every right o beat zimmerman to death as per the law. self defense.
Precisely. TM had rights, too. People seem to forget there are two sides here..sheeeeesh TM was watching a game with his dad. I wish those of you who support GZ, will give your kids a hug next time they go to the corner store..think about it.
 
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