Not Locking down doesn't work

The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them
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It seems many people are breathing some relief, and I’m not sure why. An epidemic curve has a relatively predictable upslope and once the peak is reached, the back slope can also be predicted. We have robust data from the outbreaks in China and Italy, that shows the backside of the mortality curve declines slowly, with deaths persisting for months. Assuming we have just crested in deaths at 70k, it is possible that we lose another 70,000 people over the next 6 weeks as we come off that peak. That's what's going to happen with a lockdown.

As states reopen, and we give the virus more fuel, all bets are off. I understand the reasons for reopening the economy, but I've said before, if you don't solve the biology, the economy won't recover.

There are very few states that have demonstrated a sustained decline in numbers of new infections. Indeed, as of May 3rd the majority are still increasing and reopening. As a simple example of the USA trend, when you take out the data from New York and just look at the rest of the USA, daily case numbers are increasing. Bottom line: the only reason the total USA new case numbers look flat right now is because the New York City epidemic was so large and now it is being contained.
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UncleBuck said:

I didn't offer you anything

No one did because you're an unemployable mooch

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Says the guy taking a 37k handout from people who manufacture "money" from thin air and sell it as debt to your daughter's generation.

Why do you like to enslave your daughter ? Sounds Trumpy.

Rob Roy said:

Says the guy taking a 37k handout from people who manufacture "money" from thin air and sell it as debt to your daughter's generation.

Why do you like to enslave your daughter ? Sounds Trumpy.

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Remind me how many dollars you are getting

Rob Roy said:

Says the guy taking a 37k handout from people who manufacture "money" from thin air and sell it as debt to your daughter's generation.

Why do you like to enslave your daughter ? Sounds Trumpy.

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High minded words from the lost old man who couldn't maintain a safe distance in a convenience store and got bitched out for it.

Then said old man comes here and complains about a police state/fascists/slavery and the like.

I can't make shit like that up. So, thanks for being vulnerable and sharing your story, respect for that. But damn. It is revealing of the reality behind your grandiose declarations.

Fogdog said:

High minded words from the lost old man who couldn't maintain a safe distance in a convenience store and got bitched out for it.

Then said old man comes here and complains about a police state/fascists/slavery and the like.

I can't make shit like that up. So, thanks for being vulnerable and sharing your story, respect for that. But damn. It is revealing of the reality behind your grandiose declarations.

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Could you define "Police State" ?

Are "lockdowns" a representation of freedom or of a police state ?

What is a "safe distance" ? Do you think wearing a face mask is something all people should do or do you think it may be detrimental for some ?

Do you think forced vaccinations are a good thing? Would you willingly fund them if they became a reality?

You will likely not address my questions, no respect for that, but damn, it sure is fun pointing out the reality of your boot lickery.

Rob Roy said:

Could you define "Police State" ?

Are "lockdowns" a representation of freedom or of a police state ?

What is a "safe distance" ? Do you think wearing a face mask is something all people should do or do you think it may be detrimental for some ?

Do you think forced vaccinations are a good thing? Would you willingly fund them if they became a reality?

You will likely not address my questions, no respect for that, but damn, it sure is fun pointing out the reality of your boot lickery.

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Your hysteria, paranoia and narcissim is poor reason for ignoring social distancing guidelines.

Vaccinations make it possible for us to live so closely together and have the economy that we do.

Quit trying to kill my mother.

Fogdog said:

Your hysteria, paranoia and narcissim is poor reason for ignoring social distancing guidelines.

Vaccinations make it possible for us to live so closely together and have the economy that we do.

Quit trying to kill my mother.

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I think your mother should be free to stay at home and have her dutiful son deliver her groceries etc. if she feels vulnerable. That's her choice.

Because your mom may be scared, vulnerable or both, she doesn't and never did have any right to make others stay home who make a different choice. She never did and doesn't have any reason to shut businesses, churchs etc. down. either.

If she thinks she has that right, your mom is a dangerous woman, in love with using guns to get her way. Prove me wrong.

Killing your mother ? Dude, I'm a lover, not a killer. Anyway if she did die "with" or "possibly with this virus" rather than actually from this virus, what are the odds her death would be recorded in the national scare tally? Pretty good when you factor in hospitals get far more reimbursement money if they record deaths as "virus death", even when they may not have been.

Vaccinations? If you want one, go get one. If I do I will too.
If I don't, I won't and anybody trying to force me will suffer the consequences of violating my rights. You have that right too, everybody does.

I'm not paranoid about a Police State coming, it's already here. Where is your evidence it isn't ?

Rob Roy said:

I think your mother should be free to stay at home and have her dutiful son deliver her groceries etc. if she feels vulnerable. That's her choice.

Because your mom may be scared, vulnerable or both, she doesn't and never did have any right to make others stay home who make a different choice. She never did and doesn't have any reason to shut businesses, churchs etc. down. either.

If she thinks she has that right, your mom is a dangerous woman, in love with using guns to get her way. Prove me wrong.

Killing your mother ? Dude, I'm a lover, not a killer. Anyway if she did die "with" or "possibly with this virus" rather than actually from this virus, what are the odds her death would be recorded in the national scare tally? Pretty good when you factor in hospitals get far more reimbursement money if they record deaths as "virus death", even when they may not have been.

Vaccinations? If you want one, go get one. If I do I will too.
If I don't, I won't and anybody trying to force me will suffer the consequences of violating my rights. You have that right too, everybody does.

I'm not paranoid about a Police State coming, it's already here. Where is your evidence it isn't ?

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What you think is twisted by your narcissism and associated lack of humanity.

There is no reasoning with you. Stay home, get vaccinated and question yourself.

To you, stumbling about a convenience store and getting bitched at is the same as black ops nazi police state. lulz. Thanks for giving us the view into your contorted way of viewing the world through your sociopath's eyes.

Rawn pawl called it a hoax so bobby has to follow his leader