Not so stealthy bag of free pills

Hollatchaboy said:

Why not post a pic of the pills in question op? Maybe they are some kinda nutrient tab.

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The point is that I don't want anything, especially pills sent with beans. I don't care if they are vitamin C, it's still a pill that may warrant an inspection.

I bought some seeds from zamnesia (germany) a couple of months back and they put a declaration 'souvenir hemp seeds' on the outside of the packaging. I live in the UK. I will not be buying seeds from them again. The declaration pretty much is grassing me up to my government that I grow.
Not good at all. And they claim that they are discreet...
A seed company sending you pills is extremely weird and is a liability.

MAD.SCIENTIST said:

I bought some seeds from zamnesia (germany) a couple of months back and they put a declaration 'souvenir hemp seeds' on the outside of the packaging. I live in the UK. I will not be buying seeds from them again. The declaration pretty much is grassing me up to my government that I grow.
Not good at all. And they claim that they are discreet...
A seed company sending you pills is extremely weird and is a liability.

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I agree it's something you can do without they could have labeled it something else

MAD.SCIENTIST said:

I bought some seeds from zamnesia (germany) a couple of months back and they put a declaration 'souvenir hemp seeds' on the outside of the packaging. I live in the UK. I will not be buying seeds from them again. The declaration pretty much is grassing me up to my government that I grow.
Not good at all. And they claim that they are discreet...
A seed company sending you pills is extremely weird and is a liability.

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Wow - that really was stupid!

That's the company that did it to me too. I'm waiting for a reply from them... with an explanation.

stawawager said:

Wow - that really was stupid!

That's the company that did it to me too. I'm waiting for a reply from them... with an explanation.

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You should of just emailed them just before ordering and said you dont want no kratom pills, and if they would be willing to just throw in something else as the freebie, maybe seed based. If not, youd rather not the kratom anyway. Im sure most seedbanks would be fine with that and wouldnt force you to have something you dont evenñsent to you.
Anyway hope you get is sorted out for .

stawawager said:

Wow - that really was stupid!

That's the company that did it to me too. I'm waiting for a reply from them... with an explanation.

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They used to be fine, I've bought seeds from them for years and before that mushy spores.
I hope they haven't become compromised by intelligence agencies

TheWholeTruth said:

You should of just emailed them just before ordering and said you dont want no kratom pills, and if they would be willing to just throw in something else as the freebie, maybe seed based. If not, youd rather not the kratom anyway. Im sure most seedbanks would be fine with that and wouldnt force you to have something you dont evenñsent to you.
Anyway hope you get is sorted out for .

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It be dodgy for us especially as under the psychoactive substances bill anything but tea coffee fags and booze isn't allowed god forbid you got busted for something you don't even want or touch or was even expecting I imagine you would just get a letter to ignore and that be that tho but it draw unwanted attention

TheWholeTruth said:

You should of just emailed them just before ordering and said you dont want no kratom pills, and if they would be willing to just throw in something else as the freebie, maybe seed based. If not, youd rather not the kratom anyway. Im sure most seedbanks would be fine with that and wouldnt force you to have something you dont evenñsent to you.
Anyway hope you get is sorted out for .

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I picked it, thinking it was just one freebean.

I guess I assumed they have common sense especially on a stealth package.

My first order ever.

stawawager said:

I picked it, thinking it was just one freebean.

I guess I assumed they have common sense especially on a stealth package.

My first order ever.

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Seedsman have a UK warehouse where they ship seeds from, so you haven't got to worry about customs stuff (never had any issues with them over many years). I found some unusual freak strain seeds at alchemia dot web and the orders from them have been fine with no issues (Spanish company).

this id's the 2,5 as generic Amlodipine Besylate (blood pressure and angina)
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this:

id's the 30 as MS. Tracks if he had cancer. Sorry about your friend
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OldMedUser said:

Speaking of pills. I found a loaded daily pill dispenser with 14 days worth of pills while cleaning out the house where a buddy died of prostate cancer a year ago. Tried all the free pill ID sites I could find and couldn't ID any of them. Canadian stuff and tried a Canadian site too but nothing.

I know a couple of them are probably heavy duty pain pills and could come in handy in case I fall off my ladder or roof working up there. Also found a couple of fentanyl patches in a box.

This is one day's doses. I just tried Startpage for searching the imprints on the 3 biggest ones. The two big white ones are arthritis drugs and the blue one is an antiviral for HepB and HIV. I know he had HepB so that tracks. No luck with the others and the two little white ones don't have any other imprints on the back sides.

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I ain't experimenting with anything I can't identify.

Do any of your pills have imprints @stawawager ?

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MAD.SCIENTIST said:

I bought some seeds from zamnesia (germany) a couple of months back and they put a declaration 'souvenir hemp seeds' on the outside of the packaging. I live in the UK. I will not be buying seeds from them again. The declaration pretty much is grassing me up to my government that I grow.
Not good at all. And they claim that they are discreet...
A seed company sending you pills is extremely weird and is a liability.

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This is their response to my concerns:

"Please rest assured all our packaging is completely discreet.

For more information about our Discreet Shipping policy have a look here.

We also understand that our customers privacy is highly valued and we always work on the best security systems to stay on top of web security. That said, our customers are themselves responsible for what is legally permitted or not in their country.

Let us know if you have any further questions!

Kind regards,

Ludo
Zamnesia Support"

It doesn't sound like their packaging was Descreet sent to you. I'm supposed to find out tomorrow so we'll see.

MAD.SCIENTIST said:

Seedsman have a UK warehouse where they ship seeds from, so you haven't got to worry about customs stuff (never had any issues with them over many years). I found some unusual freak strain seeds at alchemia dot web and the orders from them have been fine with no issues (Spanish company).

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Mine is coming from "CHARLOTTE NC DISTRIBUTION CENTER" I didn't even realize they are a German based company.

stawawager said:

Mine is coming from "CHARLOTTE NC DISTRIBUTION CENTER" I didn't even realize they are a German based company.

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a distritubition center is very normal companies from overseas have contracts with centers in locations based in other countries, these centers hold their products and ship them out to the usa market.

so say i owned a business in germany and i know 50% of my sales come from usa,to reduce shipping time, postage etc, ill put my stock in distribution center in the usa so its easier on my clients.

this isnt uncommon practice most big businesses do this.


Zamnesia maybe a germany based company but they own locations or 'warehouses" in other countries, thats when you go to them from google etc it realized your ip is from us so you shop on their usa website, meaning the stock is within the distribution center in the usa.

Again all extremely for big businesses.

I say this gently, what we have here is a lack of understanding how companies work.

they sell kratom on their website,
is it not at all possible they accidently sent you kratom, instead of your beans or double printed a shipping label and mixedup and also sent you kratom

People humans are not immune from mistakes,

Companies like this seed banks etc, have always stood by that you are responsible for knowing what is and isnt legal in your country before you order this isnt unheard of, it is not up to them if you order something youre not supposed to have you take that risk buying products like this, its hardly their fault

sunni said:

a distritubition center is very normal companies from overseas have contracts with centers in locations based in other countries, these centers hold their products and ship them out to the usa market.

so say i owned a business in germany and i know 50% of my sales come from usa,to reduce shipping time, postage etc, ill put my stock in distribution center in the usa so its easier on my clients.

this isnt uncommon practice most big businesses do this.


Zamnesia maybe a germany based company but they own locations or 'warehouses" in other countries, thats when you go to them from google etc it realized your ip is from us so you shop on their usa website, meaning the stock is within the distribution center in the usa.

Again all extremely for big businesses.

I say this gently, what we have here is a lack of understanding how companies work.

they sell kratom on their website,
is it not at all possible they accidently sent you kratom, instead of your beans or double printed a shipping label and mixedup and also sent you kratom

Buy Kratom | Fast US Shipping! - Zamnesia USA

Buy the best Kratom (Mitragyna speciosa) on offer ✓ Powder ✓ Capsules ✓ Resin ➤ Everything you need is here

www.zamnesia.com

People humans are not immune from mistakes,

Companies like this seed banks etc, have always stood by that you are responsible for knowing what is and isnt legal in your country before you order this isnt unheard of, it is not up to them if you order something youre not supposed to have you take that risk buying products like this, its hardly their fault

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Thanks for the enlightening, live and learn! I've been using probably inferior beans for years without any idea re their genetics so getting some exotics I'm hoping will be an improvement. Hopefully my paranoia is unwarranted .

BarnBuster said:

id's the 30 as MS. Tracks if he had cancer. Sorry about your friend

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I certainly don't want anything that lowers my blood pressure as I've been hypotensive all my life. A narcotic pain killer on the other hand . . .

The picture on that site matches exactly even the ridge around the edge. Might try a half after a session of yard work that can have my back screaming at me. I punched MS IR 30mg tablet into Startpage and came up with morphine sulphate immediate release. I have morphine and codeine listed as allergens on my medical. Morphine will make me nauseous as it wears off when used in doses high enough for acute pain like they would give at the hospital. Codeine gives me mild hives and an itchy feeling all over. Demerol works great for pain with no adverse side effects even at high doses and I used to get that for severe shoulder/neck pain. I had been getting 30 - 50mg demerol for a few years and never developed a habit and only got a refill every 4 - 6 months. Quack of a doc here claimed the med board contacted him specifically about me and he cut me right off.

Suggested the antidepressant Cymbalta for long term pain management. That buddy that passed was using them for depression and had horrible withdrawal when he ran out and couldn't afford them so I wasn't taking any of those.

Thanks for the condolences. If he had of been getting an annual PSA test it would have been caught early enough that something might have been done but it was an aggressive form of prostate cancer and in stage 4 when diagnosed. His PSA was over 200 on his first test. Mine is elevated but the last test has it dropped from 17.0 to 15.8 and a high-rez MRI shows no sign of cancer so just watchful waiting continues.

Do most bean banks use usps? Seems like fedx or ups would be a better choice for stealth?

stawawager said:

Do most bean banks use usps? Seems like fedx or ups would be a better choice for stealth?

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what is your reasoning to make you think so?

None of them are "stealthier" all still have to follow the same laws even being a privatized carrier, fedex and ups are more costly on businesses, most dont have contractual services with them but customer can chose them at check out

sunni said:

what is your reasoning to make you think so?

None of them are "stealthier" all still have to follow the same laws even being a privatized carrier, fedex and ups are more costly on businesses, most dont have contractual services with them but customer can chose them at check out

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For a pure volume reason usps may have the advantage.

Which is less likely to be snooping and or stealing?

sunni said:

a distritubition center is very normal companies from overseas have contracts with centers in locations based in other countries, these centers hold their products and ship them out to the usa market.

so say i owned a business in germany and i know 50% of my sales come from usa,to reduce shipping time, postage etc, ill put my stock in distribution center in the usa so its easier on my clients.

this isnt uncommon practice most big businesses do this.


Zamnesia maybe a germany based company but they own locations or 'warehouses" in other countries, thats when you go to them from google etc it realized your ip is from us so you shop on their usa website, meaning the stock is within the distribution center in the usa.

Again all extremely for big businesses.

I say this gently, what we have here is a lack of understanding how companies work.

they sell kratom on their website,
is it not at all possible they accidently sent you kratom, instead of your beans or double printed a shipping label and mixedup and also sent you kratom

Buy Kratom | Fast US Shipping! - Zamnesia USA

Buy the best Kratom (Mitragyna speciosa) on offer ✓ Powder ✓ Capsules ✓ Resin ➤ Everything you need is here

www.zamnesia.com

People humans are not immune from mistakes,

Companies like this seed banks etc, have always stood by that you are responsible for knowing what is and isnt legal in your country before you order this isnt unheard of, it is not up to them if you order something youre not supposed to have you take that risk buying products like this, its hardly their fault

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Yeah that definitely makes sense a mix up rather than them dishing out free kratom I've only ever seen that type of freebies when folk buy RC stuff

stawawager said:

Do most bean banks use usps? Seems like fedx or ups would be a better choice for stealth?

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Maybe in America not so much in Europe or the UK in my experience they mostly send via the standard mail services like royal mail etc unless you paying for next day delivery or something then I think there more inclined to use a private service then again some might still use the standard service

stawawager said:

Do most bean banks use usps? Seems like fedx or ups would be a better choice for stealth?

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Yes. Private carriers like ups, dhl , fed ex can open any pkg without notification as they see fit. USPS is supposed to have to get a warrant to open first class mail unless they have have a reason to believe bomb or suspicious. I’m also seeing clones get stopped in certain states randomly, not sure if something changed with the revised farm bill or not. Didn’t mean to veer off, apologies