Skunk Baxter
Well-Known Member
I;m not usually one for self-promotion, but a year ago I started a thread about winter scouting that a lot of people seemed to find helpful. I thought instead of bumping it, I'd just copy and paste the OP in a brand new thread, with a link back to the original thread. Hope people find this useful, and maybe have a few tips of their own to share.
Original thread
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It's late winter, folks. The moment is almost upon us. Soon, we'll have those babies in the ground, and the serious gardening will begin in earnest. But the serious grower doesn't wait until May to start his season. There's work to be done right now, important work. For those of you who are living in Canada and the northern US, and new to growing in the great outdoors, this is a good time for you to get out there and start scouting out the area you plan to grow in.
Why? A couple of reasons. First of all, the ground is frozen, so you can get in and out of marshy, lowlying areas very easily without having to fight your way through knee deep mud. That means you can scout out a much larger area over the course of an afternoon than you'll be able to do a month from now, when the going will be a lot tougher.
Second, there's almost no vegetation. That works for you in two ways. First of all, again - you can move more easily through what will be thick underbrush in a few weeks. This time of year, you can easily navigate briar patches and dense underbrush. And second, with no leaves on the trees, you can easily see longer distances, and get a better sense of how far away you are from roads, houses, and other areas of human activity. Case in point - I went out and scouted an area just last weekend, a spot I found last summer on the way to one of my patches, and for which I had pretty high hopes this season. And what did I see? Houses just 150 yards away, on the other side of a narrow river, up on a ridge. They'd been completely hidden by trees last summer, but I could see them clearly last week. If I hadn't scouted that little peninsula last Sunday, I would have stuck about 10 or 12 plants there this year, and that's a lot closer to someone's house than I want to be growing a dozen plants.
And third - in addition to better sight lines, sound carries a lot farther this time of year. The cold air conducts sound better, and again, the lack of leaves on the trees lets you hear sounds that will be muffled when the trees are leafed out. So, again, you'll be able to hear roads and other human activities that you wouldn't be able to detect later in the spring. You may not be able to see over that little ridge a couple of hundred yards away, but you can hear a dog barking. Or a door slamming. Or worst of all, kids yelling. You don't want to grow anywhere near kids, because they'll spend all summer long poking around in the woods. They may not recognize dope when they see it, but if they see some strange guy crawling around in the woods with a backpack, you can bet they're going to mention it to mom and dad the minute they get home.
So. Once you're out there, what should you be looking for? Start with the lay of the land. You should be able to get a better sense of the geographical features of your area this time of year, because every rise and fall you see is the actual profile of the ground, not the top edge of a treeline or thicket. If you're growing in wetlands, 2 feet of elevation can make a huge difference, but you can't spot a 2-foot high spot once the grass starts growing. This time of year, you can.
So, look around carefully. Where are the low spots? What sort of vegetation is growing in them? Sure, most of the vegetation will be dead this time of year, but you can still tell what it is, and from that, you can tell a lot about soil conditions and water tables. Is it cat tails? Forget that, then. Cat tails mean that area's underwater all summer long. Briar bushes? Good spot. High enough above the water table that the roots won't drown, and good for keeping people and animals out. Lots of dead trees, no live ones? Stay away; that probably means that area's prone to flooding. Nothing but pine trees? Soil's probably too acidic for good weed. And so on. Take your time, and pay close attention. You're surrounded by clues that will tell you a detailed story of what grows well here and what doesn't. Just keep asking yourself, what will this spot look like when everything's green and filled out?
Now check for sun angles. You should have a compass with you. Stand in the area you're looking at, and check which directions the tall trees are. How tall are they? How close? When those trees leaf out, where will their shadows fall in the morning? In the evening? How about mid-day? Does your area have good exposure to the south all day long? You'll have to use your imagination a bit here, because during the growing season the sun angles are going to be a lot different than they are now, but with a little bit of ingenuity you should be able to get a decent sense of how much light any given area will get.
Right now, the sun angle is about the same as it will be at the end of September. What that means is that if it's getting good sun now, it will still be getting the same amount of sun at the end of September/beginning of October, and much better sun than this every day in between. The sun will rise higher in the sky for the next 3 and a half months, reaching its highest point on June 21st. Then it will start slipping back down again. So the amount of sun falling on your patch will increase for 3 and a half months, then for the next 3 and a half months decline to exactly where it is now - right around the time most strains finish. If you've got good sun now, you'll have good sun until the day you chop. If you're not getting good sun now, you'll be running out of direct sunlight at some point during the flowering stage.
When in doubt, plant a little farther out from the trees. Just a difference of 30 feet could mean the difference between 10 hours of direct sun each day and 6 hours, in the right circumstances. And I don't think I have to tell anyone what a difference that can make in your yield and bud development.
If there's snow on the ground, look for tracks. This is a perfect time to see how many deer or other critters live in your garden-to-be, because by this time of year, the animals are hungry and roaming around everywhere looking for food. Trails stand out like sore thumbs this time of year, both game trails and people trails. Game trails tend to wind in and out through thick areas, and there'll often be many trails intertwined like a spider web. People trails tend to follow relatively straight lines through the easiest terrain.
You can also get a sense of how many predators are in an area. Fox tracks, coyote tracks, and even wolf tracks if you live far enough north are all good news for the grower. Last weekend, I was thrilled to find a new spot that's located halfway between an eagle's nest and a barred owl's nest that were just 300 yards apart. I'll grow about 15 or 20 there this year, because there won't be a rabbit in sight all summer long.
And of course, you want to be watching for people tracks as well. You may find your area is not as remote as you thought. You may find offroad vehicle trails going right through the patch you were planning to plant. Or, worse yet, bootprints. If the area is truly remote, but you find someone else's tracks out there, ask yourself - who is this, and what the hell is he doing out here this time of year? Do the tracks follow the same pattern as yours, poking around and checking out open areas in the middle of tree stands? Does he spend a lot of time wandering in and out of briar patches? Standing in one place and looking around in circles? Might be another grower, doing exactly what you're doing.
Other signs of human activity to avoid? Semi-permanent duck blinds, maybe. When does duck season begin in your area? Before you plan to harvest? Better check with your area's fish and game website. You don't want to be sneaking around harvesting your crop a couple of hundred yards from hunters the first weekend of duck season, because i guarantee they'll see you. And if they don't, the game wardens who are out in force that weekend will. Any tree stands in the woods? Again, this is the best time of year to spot them. When does bow season begin in your area? The middle of September? Then steer clear of tree stands. For that matter, I generally stay away from them no matter when the hunting season begins. Deer hunters like to do exactly what you're doing - get out in their area a couple of months before the season starts and scout out the land. That's not so true of duck blinds, but it's definitely the case with deer hunters. Give 'em a wide berth all year round.
How about ice fishermen? See any of them close to where you're planning on growing? They'll be fishing those same spots from boats when the ice goes out. Did you find a nice spot next to some water, but you don't see any sign of ice fishing? Look up. At the trees next to the water. Any bobbers or lures hanging in the branches? Stay away. It may look remote to you, and you may have had to hike a half hour to get in here, but somebody comes in here by boat and fishes here. Spends hours at a time sitting on their ass, checking out the scenery and marveling at the beauty of nature, just 50 feet from your 8-foot tall White Widows. Maybe not such a good spot, after all.
So. Anyone else have any scouting tips to share?
Original thread
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It's late winter, folks. The moment is almost upon us. Soon, we'll have those babies in the ground, and the serious gardening will begin in earnest. But the serious grower doesn't wait until May to start his season. There's work to be done right now, important work. For those of you who are living in Canada and the northern US, and new to growing in the great outdoors, this is a good time for you to get out there and start scouting out the area you plan to grow in.
Why? A couple of reasons. First of all, the ground is frozen, so you can get in and out of marshy, lowlying areas very easily without having to fight your way through knee deep mud. That means you can scout out a much larger area over the course of an afternoon than you'll be able to do a month from now, when the going will be a lot tougher.
Second, there's almost no vegetation. That works for you in two ways. First of all, again - you can move more easily through what will be thick underbrush in a few weeks. This time of year, you can easily navigate briar patches and dense underbrush. And second, with no leaves on the trees, you can easily see longer distances, and get a better sense of how far away you are from roads, houses, and other areas of human activity. Case in point - I went out and scouted an area just last weekend, a spot I found last summer on the way to one of my patches, and for which I had pretty high hopes this season. And what did I see? Houses just 150 yards away, on the other side of a narrow river, up on a ridge. They'd been completely hidden by trees last summer, but I could see them clearly last week. If I hadn't scouted that little peninsula last Sunday, I would have stuck about 10 or 12 plants there this year, and that's a lot closer to someone's house than I want to be growing a dozen plants.
And third - in addition to better sight lines, sound carries a lot farther this time of year. The cold air conducts sound better, and again, the lack of leaves on the trees lets you hear sounds that will be muffled when the trees are leafed out. So, again, you'll be able to hear roads and other human activities that you wouldn't be able to detect later in the spring. You may not be able to see over that little ridge a couple of hundred yards away, but you can hear a dog barking. Or a door slamming. Or worst of all, kids yelling. You don't want to grow anywhere near kids, because they'll spend all summer long poking around in the woods. They may not recognize dope when they see it, but if they see some strange guy crawling around in the woods with a backpack, you can bet they're going to mention it to mom and dad the minute they get home.
So. Once you're out there, what should you be looking for? Start with the lay of the land. You should be able to get a better sense of the geographical features of your area this time of year, because every rise and fall you see is the actual profile of the ground, not the top edge of a treeline or thicket. If you're growing in wetlands, 2 feet of elevation can make a huge difference, but you can't spot a 2-foot high spot once the grass starts growing. This time of year, you can.
So, look around carefully. Where are the low spots? What sort of vegetation is growing in them? Sure, most of the vegetation will be dead this time of year, but you can still tell what it is, and from that, you can tell a lot about soil conditions and water tables. Is it cat tails? Forget that, then. Cat tails mean that area's underwater all summer long. Briar bushes? Good spot. High enough above the water table that the roots won't drown, and good for keeping people and animals out. Lots of dead trees, no live ones? Stay away; that probably means that area's prone to flooding. Nothing but pine trees? Soil's probably too acidic for good weed. And so on. Take your time, and pay close attention. You're surrounded by clues that will tell you a detailed story of what grows well here and what doesn't. Just keep asking yourself, what will this spot look like when everything's green and filled out?
Now check for sun angles. You should have a compass with you. Stand in the area you're looking at, and check which directions the tall trees are. How tall are they? How close? When those trees leaf out, where will their shadows fall in the morning? In the evening? How about mid-day? Does your area have good exposure to the south all day long? You'll have to use your imagination a bit here, because during the growing season the sun angles are going to be a lot different than they are now, but with a little bit of ingenuity you should be able to get a decent sense of how much light any given area will get.
Right now, the sun angle is about the same as it will be at the end of September. What that means is that if it's getting good sun now, it will still be getting the same amount of sun at the end of September/beginning of October, and much better sun than this every day in between. The sun will rise higher in the sky for the next 3 and a half months, reaching its highest point on June 21st. Then it will start slipping back down again. So the amount of sun falling on your patch will increase for 3 and a half months, then for the next 3 and a half months decline to exactly where it is now - right around the time most strains finish. If you've got good sun now, you'll have good sun until the day you chop. If you're not getting good sun now, you'll be running out of direct sunlight at some point during the flowering stage.
When in doubt, plant a little farther out from the trees. Just a difference of 30 feet could mean the difference between 10 hours of direct sun each day and 6 hours, in the right circumstances. And I don't think I have to tell anyone what a difference that can make in your yield and bud development.
If there's snow on the ground, look for tracks. This is a perfect time to see how many deer or other critters live in your garden-to-be, because by this time of year, the animals are hungry and roaming around everywhere looking for food. Trails stand out like sore thumbs this time of year, both game trails and people trails. Game trails tend to wind in and out through thick areas, and there'll often be many trails intertwined like a spider web. People trails tend to follow relatively straight lines through the easiest terrain.
You can also get a sense of how many predators are in an area. Fox tracks, coyote tracks, and even wolf tracks if you live far enough north are all good news for the grower. Last weekend, I was thrilled to find a new spot that's located halfway between an eagle's nest and a barred owl's nest that were just 300 yards apart. I'll grow about 15 or 20 there this year, because there won't be a rabbit in sight all summer long.
And of course, you want to be watching for people tracks as well. You may find your area is not as remote as you thought. You may find offroad vehicle trails going right through the patch you were planning to plant. Or, worse yet, bootprints. If the area is truly remote, but you find someone else's tracks out there, ask yourself - who is this, and what the hell is he doing out here this time of year? Do the tracks follow the same pattern as yours, poking around and checking out open areas in the middle of tree stands? Does he spend a lot of time wandering in and out of briar patches? Standing in one place and looking around in circles? Might be another grower, doing exactly what you're doing.
Other signs of human activity to avoid? Semi-permanent duck blinds, maybe. When does duck season begin in your area? Before you plan to harvest? Better check with your area's fish and game website. You don't want to be sneaking around harvesting your crop a couple of hundred yards from hunters the first weekend of duck season, because i guarantee they'll see you. And if they don't, the game wardens who are out in force that weekend will. Any tree stands in the woods? Again, this is the best time of year to spot them. When does bow season begin in your area? The middle of September? Then steer clear of tree stands. For that matter, I generally stay away from them no matter when the hunting season begins. Deer hunters like to do exactly what you're doing - get out in their area a couple of months before the season starts and scout out the land. That's not so true of duck blinds, but it's definitely the case with deer hunters. Give 'em a wide berth all year round.
How about ice fishermen? See any of them close to where you're planning on growing? They'll be fishing those same spots from boats when the ice goes out. Did you find a nice spot next to some water, but you don't see any sign of ice fishing? Look up. At the trees next to the water. Any bobbers or lures hanging in the branches? Stay away. It may look remote to you, and you may have had to hike a half hour to get in here, but somebody comes in here by boat and fishes here. Spends hours at a time sitting on their ass, checking out the scenery and marveling at the beauty of nature, just 50 feet from your 8-foot tall White Widows. Maybe not such a good spot, after all.
So. Anyone else have any scouting tips to share?
