Nuggs 2015 russet mite war

nuggs

nuggs

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freemandrake said:
I am going to get my hands on some DE so I can start dusting my new spot, going to prep once I have finished trimming. I'm looking to pick up a few "trick of the trade" watching and learning
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check for DE at the livestock feed stores. food grade. they put it in feed to prevent it from caking.
 
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MjMama said:
The meeting went so well. Only 1 member of the board of supervisors voted for the ban, and all the rest seemed really cool. Even the sheriff was fair in his statements. He told them that most growers are in compliance and most complaints they get are from old people who don't understand medical marijuana laws. There was only 2 people that I remember speaking against growing, with a long line waiting to speak in our defense. Professionals and citizens of all sorts. I was very proud of our community. They decided to put it off until 2016 and reconsider after the state makes their
moves.
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Sounds like youre pretty close to me. Calaveras county? Same here. Left it alone pending state action. Voted 5 to 1
 
MjMama

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nuggs said:
Well I hope you enjoyed the read. I haven't gone back and read it over yet. Did you get anything out of it? The scope we ordered from Best buy. they have two . one is $90 the other $150. Having a good camera and knowing how to use it is the best though.
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I definitely learned a thing or two. The link someone posted about seven dust, pyrethrin, and a few other sprays making mites breed faster was an awesome find. I remember a time battling spider mites that I used pyrethrin and just felt like things got worse. It still might be good as a one two punch with other sprays worked in, but I wouldn't rely solely on pyrethrin after what I read.

And it's great knowing what the mites look like, their social habits etc. Before I read this thread the russet mites were a lot more mysterious of a creature.
 
MjMama

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Joedank said:
nice might HAVE to go get one ... i dont like dish soap in my neem mix either , the killing of bactria on the leaf surface sucks... so as a sticky i add 1/4 t of sucanat or molsses like grandma would...:) finally got a sunny morning in the mountains ,... have a great day @nuggs
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What about organic dish soap?
 
Joedank

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MjMama said:
What about organic dish soap?
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its the sum of its parts moderation is key . potassium soap like bronners can be used by the plant but the bacteria repopulate the leaf surface.. like yeast on grapes...i will use the bronners on aphids BUT not much else anymore...
 
MjMama

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fumble said:
Hey @MjMama ...nice to meet you :) I believe this is the scope we got...I effing love this thing !

http://www.celestron.com/browse-shop/microscopes/digital-microscopes/cosmos-3-mp-lcd-handheld-digital-microscope
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That's good to know. I just got a different model of celestron scope. The one that hooks up to your computer. I scoped a few leaves and didn't find anything but wanted to be sure it was a strong enough mag. I think it should stack up well to the other models.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Celestron-Handheld-Digital-Microscope-Pro/dp/B00CMJ1I08
 
ttystikk

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nuggs said:
Mj Mama , yes you are right and @ttystikk is probably right. although as I mention latter in my thread I found better things to use. Thats been my whole intention in this thread, trying to get a lot of information in one place because when I had the borg last year I was overwelmed in research and didn't have time to try everything on the shelves.

What @ttystikk wrote was good information. I didn't like the abrasive way he wrote to me and when someone speaks to me like that they can exspect no respect back.
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I'm sorry I came across that way. It was not my intention and sometimes I do come off like an arrogant asshole. Please accept my apology.
 
ttystikk

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Mr.Head said:
I haven't used these in my indoor grows much. However I can't see how it could be harmful.

The stuff is safe for human consumption, it's what is in probiotic capsules.

The idea is that the lactobacillus outcompetes bad/harmful bacterias and benefits the plant.
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Could this have something to do with why a ten percent solution of low fat milk works so well against powdery mildew?
 
MjMama

MjMama

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So after reading the entire thread I really only feel like I have two bits if info to add to the discussion. This is a wonder and well put together thread with a wealth of knowledge from all sides.

First, on the topic of the mites life cycle. I see a lot of people saying for example a certain pest has a 3 day life cycle so spray every 3 days. Or spray every 4 days for a 4 day life cycle. But wouldn't it make more sense to spray twice as often?Instead of waiting until they have hatched, bred, and made more eggs, why not spray when they are just hatching and before mating begins? Break the cycle before the cycle begins, so to speak. I like to spray every other day anytime I see evidence of pests of any sort.

Second, I really like spinosad as one of the things I use in my pest control schedule. Because it isn't oil based like most sprays, you can safely double the recommended stregth without burning plants. Alternating from Spinosad to Azamax has done me well so far. Hopefully I never have to resort to anything more toxic.
 
ttystikk

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MjMama said:
So after reading the entire thread I really only feel like I have two bits if info to add to the discussion. This is a wonder and well put together thread with a wealth of knowledge from all sides.

First, on the topic of the mites life cycle. I see a lot of people saying for example a certain pest has a 3 day life cycle so spray every 3 days. Or spray every 4 days for a 4 day life cycle. But wouldn't it make more sense to spray twice as often?Instead of waiting until they have hatched, bred, and made more eggs, why not spray when they are just hatching and before mating begins? Break the cycle before the cycle begins, so to speak. I like to spray every other day anytime I see evidence of pests of any sort.

Second, I really like spinosad as one of the things I use in my pest control schedule. Because it isn't oil based like most sprays, you can safely double the recommended stregth without burning plants. Alternating from Spinosad to Azamax has done me well so far. Hopefully I never have to resort to anything more toxic.
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First, because by the time the grower has discovered the infestation, chances are almost certain they've already been laying eggs. Spraying a week apart with a pesticide with a short window of effectiveness has generally proven to be a good compromise between getting the job done and excessive application.

Do you happen to know the persistence duration of Spinosad? My biggest concern is that anything I've sprayed needs to have had ample time to dissipate/degrade by chop day.
 
MjMama

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ttystikk said:
Could this have something to do with why a ten percent solution of low fat milk works so well against powdery mildew?
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I believe so. The probiotics of the milk plus changing the ph of the leaf surface is a 1-2 punch.
ttystikk said:
First, because by the time the grower has discovered the infestation, chances are almost certain they've already been laying eggs. Spraying a week apart with a pesticide with a short window of effectiveness has generally proven to be a good compromise between getting the job done and excessive application.

Do you happen to know the persistence duration of Spinosad? My biggest concern is that anything I've sprayed needs to have had ample time to dissipate/degrade by chop day.
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Spinosad is very short lived, made from beneficial bacteria, it breaks down completely and is absorbed by the plants within a few days. It's one of the only things I am willing to use on flowering plants.
 
freemandrake

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nuggs said:
check for DE at the livestock feed stores. food grade. they put it in feed to prevent it from caking.
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Yep tracked it down last night with the help from my mum :hug: She is a horticulturalist by trade, I always learn a thing or two when I visit.. Her garden is amazing I will have to walk it with a video camera it's really something else.

2kg for $25 deliver to my door
 
nuggs

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MjMama said:
I definitely learned a thing or two. The link someone posted about seven dust, pyrethrin, and a few other sprays making mites breed faster was an awesome find. I remember a time battling spider mites that I used pyrethrin and just felt like things got worse. It still might be good as a one two punch with other sprays worked in, but I wouldn't rely solely on pyrethrin after what I read.

And it's great knowing what the mites look like, their social habits etc. Before I read this thread the russet mites were a lot more mysterious of a creature.
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get mites you have to use a miteside. After they are gone you can control it with the safer ormi cert stuff.
ttystikk said:
I'm sorry I came across that way. It was not my intention and sometimes I do come off like an arrogant asshole. Please accept my apology.
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No problem Brother ! and thanks for your help.
 
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