Nutes burn vs Potassuim def case

L

leftmyth

Member
Hello!

I have a question concerning my Auto Assassin, she is already 50 days old. Soil is (NPK-11:18:20). Soil PH -6,6-7. Went through Mg def, which looks fixed by watering with Epsom Salts.

The title of posts says it all, not sure if those leaf tips indicate nute burn or potassium def. It appeared couple of days, when I gave first watering with Hesi blooming nutes 1/8 of strength. (Around day 38 ).
On the other hand, she is entering final flowering phase and humidity is quite low - both of that my lead to def. Red Stems could indicate that as well.
So, I`m quite confused - should I flush or treat with extra nutes.

1a.jpg 2a.jpg 3a.jpg 4a.jpg


+ I`m not sure what are those white dots on leaves (Last pics) some tiny mites or just dust particles.

5a.jpg
 
J

jaybray

Member
I cant give you any suggestions on what to do now... In the future a little food goes along ways It does not appear to have bugs. Turn over the leaf and look for eggs or mites.
 
Sick Of Scrapin Rez...

Sick Of Scrapin Rez...

Member
Im in a similar situation, where i just started using nutes on an 2 month old plant. The first time i gave them nutes i saw a tiny yellow tip on some of the leaves, which I knew was a nute burn, but it is no where as serious as your situation. In your pics it looks like whole leaves turned yellow. I would deff say that has something to do with nutes, it might not have been entirely caused by nute burn, but remember when feeding your plant… less is more when it comes to nutes .
 
L

leftmyth

Member
jaybray said:
I cant give you any suggestions on what to do now... In the future a little food goes along ways It does not appear to have bugs. Turn over the leaf and look for eggs or mites.
Click to expand...
As I have starved it, should I give some Bloom nutes, well 1/4 or 1/2?
 
Sick Of Scrapin Rez...

Sick Of Scrapin Rez...

Member
leftmyth said:
As I have starved it, should I give some Bloom nutes, well 1/4 or 1/2?
Click to expand...
I would flush your plant at least once (maybe a few times if it's not to much of a hassle) because if it was nutes in the first place that did that to your plant, you definitely want to make sure theres no much of those nutes in the plant, when you feed it again. Im no expert but that would be my opinion.
 
C

churchhaze

Well-Known Member
Did you add limestone to your soil? It does look nitrogen deficient, but it seems like it could also have too much calcium, which would antagonize Mg, Fe, and other metal ions.

leftmyth said:
Hello!

I have a question concerning my Auto Assassin, she is already 50 days old. Soil is (NPK-11:18:20). Soil PH -6,6-7. Went through Mg def, which looks fixed by watering with Epsom Salts.

The title of posts says it all, not sure if those leaf tips indicate nute burn or potassium def. It appeared couple of days, when I gave first watering with Hesi blooming nutes 1/8 of strength. (Around day 38 ).
On the other hand, she is entering final flowering phase and humidity is quite low - both of that my lead to def. Red Stems could indicate that as well.
So, I`m quite confused - should I flush or treat with extra nutes.




+ I`m not sure what are those white dots on leaves (Last pics) some tiny mites or just dust particles.
Click to expand...
 
L

leftmyth

Member
churchhaze said:
Did you add limestone to your soil? It does look nitrogen deficient, but it seems like it could also have too much calcium, which would antagonize Mg, Fe, and other metal ions.
Click to expand...

I did around teaspoon or two per gallon of soil , mixed with 20% perlite.

But limestone ir slow release, so I`m not sure how that would interfere?
 
J

jaybray

Member
leftmyth said:
As I have starved it, should I give some Bloom nutes, well 1/4 or 1/2?
Click to expand...
What bloom nutes are you working with? you need something with nitrogen. Not a veg fert. If I was to suggest a fertilizer that might bring her back I would use flora nova bloom it is very forgiving for a beginner.
 
C

churchhaze

Well-Known Member
I'm not saying for certain you added too much. It's always somewhat of a mystery knowing what's in soil to begin with. One thing's for sure is your plant doesn't look calcium deficient, so that's good.

leftmyth said:
I did around teaspoon or two per gallon of soil , mixed with 20% perlite.

But limestone ir slow release, so I`m not sure how that would interfere?
Click to expand...
 
jimmer6577

jimmer6577

Well-Known Member
Sick Of Scrapin Rez... said:
W.e nutes you decide to use just make sure the N is higher than the P or K ratio.
Click to expand...
I think he's in flower so even though he might need nit(I'm not sure from just pics), he would want a different ratio then vegging. My self, I'd get a bloom fert with nitrogen in it like tiger bloom or some thing.(2-8-4) This shouldn't burn your plants at all and getting a good broad mix of nutes since you are not sure of issue. If you over feed the nit at this stage it will effect the taste of the bud big time. just my 2 cents.
 
L

leftmyth

Member
jaybray said:
What bloom nutes are you working with? you need something with nitrogen. Not a veg fert. If I was to suggest a fertilizer that might bring her back I would use flora nova bloom it is very forgiving for a beginner.
Click to expand...
I have Hesi Bloom complex with a lot of minerals and NPK is 3-3-4. - http://www.klausdergaertner.de/shop1/images/product_images/popup_images/HESI-Blhkomplex-5-L-1.gif



Hmmm, if at the moment soil is stills medium wet - should I wait and starve the girl even more, or interfere with watering (bloom nutes)?
 
Sick Of Scrapin Rez...

Sick Of Scrapin Rez...

Member
jimmer6577 said:
I think he's in flower so even though he might need nit(I'm not sure from just pics), he would want a different ratio then vegging. My self, I'd get a bloom fert with nitrogen in it like tiger bloom or some thing.(2-8-4) This shouldn't burn your plants at all and getting a good broad mix of nutes since you are not sure of issue. If you over feed the nit at this stage it will effect the taste of the bud big time. just my 2 cents.
Click to expand...
Na your absolutely right, it all depends on the stage. I have plant that just got into flower maybe 2 or 3 weeks ago, and i started them off with a diluted dose of tiger bloom
 
L

leftmyth

Member
P.S. Any ideas how get along Calcium Nitrate and Magnesium Sulfate Heptahydrate (Epsom salt)? I would like to give an extra MG + Calcium my new seedlings (maybe this starving girl as well), because those are in low level in soil and Hesi TNT and Bloom complex.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top