So after soul searching for all the bits and bobs i've ended up finding everything i wanted all on one site, basically totals around 50 pounds more than kits i found but seems far better quality.. problem is i dont know what nutes to go with? seeing as im getting everything else from here i might aswell try to get these also this is the site and what they have to offer - http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/categories/Plant-Nutrition/ oh and if it makes any difference i am planning on doing 12/12 from seed for my first then i am planning for a normal grow after so if certain are not needed for 12/12 we don't need to worry about them for now they can be purchased next month thanks a lot for any help cheers red.