Nutrient touch up question...

troythepooh14

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I am doing an outdoor guerilla grow.. For nutrients so far I have Fox farms happy frog, maxicrop liquid seaweed and high nitrogen bat guano.

Is this all i need for veg? or what else could i use that would benefit my grow..
 

kermit2692

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ok i had straight trees for one geurilla grow....heres what you do....buy a bad of worm castings and a bag of blood/bone meal you can get it at just about any hardware store.....dig your hole or w/e fill with dirt and if seedling go about 20/80 ammendments to plain soil if its bigger go like 40/60now add dirt up to the bottom set of leaves so its like a mound....take care of it as normal then everytime it grows or the soil compacts down past the lowest set of leaves add the mix again to the bottom set of leaves....just keep doing this and you will get SICK results i was on my second grow ever and had not yielded much first go around, when i saw what was happening i was shocked these plants were FUCKING HUGE i had them strung through other types of weeds in a type of natural lst and man they were like 50 cent pieces at the bottom!!
 

troythepooh14

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damn that sounds nice... I can keep adding soil... but i already have my soil. I used a 50/30/20 mix of native soil (very good soil), miracle grow, and hummus/manure. I am watering a gallon once a week.. There are about 30 in 2x2 holes.
 

kermit2692

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i would water way more...your outside the ground leaches up that gallon man...i was watering my single plot with about a half gallon to a gallon a day!! ofcourse this was in hot weather...also next time id skip the miracle grow and grab the blood/bone meal instead...id still grab some and ya def keep piling the soil up it worked wonders!! all that normally useless stalk is now able to contribute and grow roots
 

kermit2692

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oh and i got the idea from this pic which is a classic most ppl have seen it....well i cant find it anymore it was a pic of this guy standing next to a huge weed tree and he had large tractor tires around each one filled with soil and a smiley face over his face...
 

kermit2692

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ya the answer is add some blood bone meal lol :D maybe some worm castings ...can you get by just fine with what you have i believe yes because the soil has nutes and even the soil outside of your soil (the ground) has nutes..but outside it never hurts to add imo because your roots will grow past your nutes and the nutes will leach around it just seems to me its hard to over do it outside and quite easy to under do it!...the seaweed is going to add to the mocrobiology and organisms in the soil and increase nute uptake by the plant and the nitrogen is a must but you may at some point be lacking p and k if the plant is a heavy feeder and purges the soil thats why i suggest adding the other ammendments....ill be honest i never tried to nail a science when growing outside unlike indoor, id just nail the plants and see how they responded and they would always respond good never was able to overfeed outside!
 

troythepooh14

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Right i feel you... I was thinking about getting some maxsea... but the happy frog is all organic 5-5-5 so it has a litle bit of everything.. along with mychroz or whatever. Im trying to stay as organic as possible.. I was thinking about adding a tbs of molasses once a month until flower which would be every watering. I heard molasses is like steroids for the microbes in the soil...
 

kermit2692

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that would def not hurt.. and ofcourse if your topping off the soil your adding p and k so ya you should be fine if you want to save the few bucks or just dont want to add anything...did i read that wrong are you only planning on watering once a month? im sure thats not what u meant...you will have to water at least once every three days unless its really rainy ofcourse
 

troythepooh14

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right now im watering once a week.. I want to add a tbs of molasses once a month. Im not sure what nutrients im gonna be using for flower. I was hoping to get my hands on some maxsea bloom... But i dont think thats going to happen.
 

troythepooh14

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Feeds the microbes in your soil... i hear its very good, a couple times during veg and every watering in flower until flush...
 

notoriousxander

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every watering in flower? you sure? even with nutes? im using fox farm would i mix the molasses in the water with the nutes? i see people using molasses everywhere
 

DAKUSHMAN 49

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Molasses is the best.... I add 1 table spoon few times a month for the first month and boost it to 2 Table spoon during flower 2-3 times a month. I use brer Rabit molasses. it has the bunny on the front...... It will harden your buds and promote rapid growth....


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