Nytrogen toxicity?

windopz

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What do you think about? I water every two days, alternating feeding and water only. Or maybe the light too close? The plant growed with various types of lights...even cheap ones..now I bought a good quantum board and putted it 35 cm above it.

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Renfro

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If it was N tox I would expect burnt leaf tips.

How did you get that plant so small? Probably end up with 3 or 4 grams dry when it's finished.
 

windopz

Member
It’s a royal dwarf so not a big one, but I made various mistakes at the beginning: wrong lights, small pot 2 times transplanted...should I temporary stop feedings?
 

Renfro

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Well may I suggest that when you are ready to get serious and wish to invest in a valuable tool, grab a blue lab SOIL pH meter. It will read liquids just fine and can also test the soil (root zone pH). I consider it my most valuable tool. I also have the Apera PH60S (spear probe). Love those meters and they finally let me pinpoint why I would have a random plant shit the bed when others of the same strain, age, feed were fine. Your medium pH is not always what you would expect from your input pH.
 

xtsho

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That plant has been seriously overfed. Finish it out but don't expect much. Move on and learn from your mistakes.
 

Wattzzup

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It’s 7 weeks now, I don’t think it going to grow anymore..
Thanks for the astute observation. My point is you can see its over watered and over fed. Those things stall it. If it’s over watered and over fed now. It’s probably been like that for weeks and weeks.
 

windopz

Member
Thanks for the astute observation. My point is you can see its over watered and over fed. Those things stall it. If it’s over watered and over fed now. It’s probably been like that for weeks and weeks.
Yeah you’re right. What can I do now to save the savable?
 

Wattzzup

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1 let your plant get “too dry”. So dry you’re like oh shit that’s dry. I still use a probe if I’m unsure. You will see the plant look sad and the leaves will look tired. The pot will be light and when you stick your finger in it....it will be dry for about an inch or first knuckle. THEN when you water with those sad leaves and the pot a little bit too dry. It will perk up right away!

2 decide if you’re going to take this serious and get some cheap TDS and Ph meters. Even a cheap soil probe. All for under $75 probably. If you’re not going to take it seriously good job water it Only from here on out and enjoy your 1/8 bag
 

Renfro

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A couple things that can cause N toxcicity when you really don't have a shit ton of nitrogen. Low light levels. So you have a plant thats given a good strong feed but it's not able to really use it with such low rate of photosynthesis. Another factor is plant size. A runty plant can have the same issue with feed strength due to it's inability to process that much food. So when I see signs of a nitrogen deficiency (claw) but I don't see leaf tip burn as would be expected if you had a hot feed, then I suspect low light levels and or runty plant (both of which we have here).
 

Kassiopeija

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Should I stop feeding for some days?
yes, give only water until the plants new growth appears in healthy green colour (if it even happens since you're already in flower...)

Your plant hasnt typically N burnt signs because youve fed your plant with A+B flower formulae (Grow + Bloom = NPK 3-5-5 (avg.)) plus 2 Bloom/PK boosters, one having NPK 0-10-10-12 (12=Ca or S ?) which is further unfavourably changing the NPK mismatch...

So either only give Grow+Bloom OR Cellmax (both solutions contain enough PK for flower).
Use BB Fishmix for Veg (NPK 7-2-4)

And only TopMax OR Cellmax not both.
And only TopMax OR Cannaboost, because Topmax also is a booster containing both chelates & aminosugars. (but no NPK)

I’ve noticed this when I’m over watering hot soil. It just seems to sit and not want to grow.
indeed, heres a diagram illustrating the speed of growth in relation to the availability of N:
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windopz

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I don’t think it’s a light deficiency. It’s under a 120w Samsung lm561c quantum board. Maybe at the beginning, but not now.
 
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