Obamacare saved my family from financial ruin

No Brainer? LOL

That's what Obama and the left wanted people to think.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
You would still be on the hook for the medical bills you incurred during the year you did not have insurance!
The only thing you could do is get coverage during the enrollment period the following year.

Time to PAY UP!

We put in place a plan that gets every citizen in our state health insurance,
and it didn’t cost us new money or require us to raise taxes. What we found was,
it was less expensive or no more expensive to help individuals who had been
uninsured by their own private policy than it had been for us to give out free
care at the hospital. Since we put our plan in place last April, we’ve now had
300,000 people who were uninsured sign up for this insurance, private insurance.
Where good doctor was wrong is tha it’s true the insurance companies don’t want
to sell policies to one person at a time. It’s expensive. We established what we
called a connector, a place where individuals could go to buy policies from any
company, and that connector would in turn send their premiums on to those
companies. So the economics of scale existed. As a result, the premiums for
health insurance for an individual buying insurance went from $350 a month to
$180 a month, with lower deductibles and now with prescription drugs.
-Mitt Romney
 
I like mandates. The mandates work. If somebody can afford insurance and decides not to buy it, and then they get sick, they ought to pay their own way, as opposed to expect the government to pay their way. That’s an American principle. That’s a principle of personal responsibility. If you can afford to buy insurance, then buy it. You don’t have to, if you don’t want to buy it, but then you got to put enough money aside that you can pay your own way. If people can afford to buy it, either buy the insurance or pay your own way; don’t be free-riders and pass on the cost to your health care to everybody else. It actually applies to people at three-times federal poverty. They pay for their own policy. At less than three-times federal poverty, we help them buy a policy, so everybody is insured, and everybody is able to buy a policy that is affordable for them. One-quarter of the uninsured in my state were making $75,000 a year or more.
-Mitt Romney
 
I like mandates. The mandates work. If somebody can afford insurance and decides not to buy it, and then they get sick, they ought to pay their own way, as opposed to expect the government to pay their way. That’s an American principle. That’s a principle of personal responsibility. If you can afford to buy insurance, then buy it. You don’t have to, if you don’t want to buy it, but then you got to put enough money aside that you can pay your own way. If people can afford to buy it, either buy the insurance or pay your own way; don’t be free-riders and pass on the cost to your health care to everybody else. It actually applies to people at three-times federal poverty. They pay for their own policy. At less than three-times federal poverty, we help them buy a policy, so everybody is insured, and everybody is able to buy a policy that is affordable for them. One-quarter of the uninsured in my state were making $75,000 a year or more.
-Mitt Romney

Afraid to comment on it yourself?
 
What if Mason's cost of recovery had been $300 billion? Should the taxpayers have paid that bill?

Mason's family are great people, I'm sure. And I'm glad he's OK, or at least getting much better. But the reality is that US can't afford to spend itself into bankruptcy to save a few individuals.

The US government shouldn't be giving anyone health care. It is the responsibility of people to provide for themselves and their families. Those who can't should face the consequences, barring charity from people who CHOOSE to give them money.

I don't like being forced to give Mason's family money. I probably would have anyway, but I'd like the choice to not give.

As harsh as the implications of those questions are, they are legitimate. Is there any line to be drawn? Will ACA draw lines? Do the socialized medical systems of Europe and Canada draw lines?

The very obvious answer to all these questions is, "yes". Canadians don't come to the US for hip replacements because they like to blow $75K, they come because the Canadian system does not provide expensive services, at least not in a timely manner.

People die in car accidents, yet we still drive cars. Tylenol kills thousands of people every year, but it is still sold. Like it or not, there is a cost/benefit analysis going on all the time, where the "cost" is death of a few.
 
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House Speaker John Boehner and his tea party friends shut down the U.S. government because of people like me. I am the mother of an insurance hog, someone who could have blown through his lifetime limit of health coverage by the time he was 14. My son has managed to survive despite seemingly insurmountable challenges, and he wears his preexisting condition like a Super Bowl ring.

Mason, now 16, was probably born with his brain tumor. We discovered it six years ago. Biopsies showed a slow-growing mass, which was the good news. The bad news was that the tumor could not be removed because it had grown around essential structures in his brain. Under the care of some of the country’s finest specialists, Mason had frequent scans. There was little we could do between tests but hope for the best. Like other children his age, Mason played basketball, argued with his siblings and avoided cleaning his bedroom. He managed to undergo chemotherapy for eight months without getting too sick. He insisted on finding ways to laugh, saying things like: “I have brain cancer. What’s your problem?” It was an uneasy peace — until the tumor ruptured in December 2010, three years after his initial diagnosis, and Mason suffered a massive cerebral hemorrhage.


Mason spent most of eighth grade in the hospital. In the six months he was hospitalized, he spent 65 days in the pediatric intensive care unit. He underwent four brain surgeries. Halfway through his hospitalization, the Affordable Care Act was passed, alleviating lifetime limits on coverage and saving us from the financial abyss. Mason moved to a rehabilitation hospital where he was retaught the most basic skills — sitting up, eating and standing. We faithfully paid the premiums on the employer-sponsored plan through which our family is covered, along with the rest of our bills, thanking God and whoever else would listen for our good fortune to have coverage.



The biggest fear for families such as mine is that we will lose our health insurance and be rendered uninsurable because one of us has been sick. The Affordable Care Act does away with dreaded clauses barring preexisting conditions. It also enables us to keep Mason on our insurance until he is 26; then, he will be able to purchase his own coverage on an insurance exchange. At least, that was the plan until last Tuesday, when the government was shut down in protest of such excesses.



As far as the brain tumor goes, our family might have drawn the short straw. Maybe our story lacks a certain universal appeal. People might thinking to themselves, “I’m so sorry that happened to you, but odds are it won’t happen to me.” I hope it doesn’t, really.



But having lived in hospitals with Mason for months, I have seen that bad things — accidents, freak illnesses — happen to smart, cautious and otherwise undeserving people. It’s one thing we all have in common. We are fragile beings. So what is wrong with allowing us to purchase a financial safety net? What’s so un-American about that?



If I could get John Boehner and Ted Cruz on a conference call, I would explain this to them. I would tell them that, while they were busy trying to derail the Affordable Care Act over the past two years, Mason has again learned to walk, talk, eat and shoot a three-point basket.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...4c03c6-2f6e-11e3-bbed-a8a60c601153_story.html

This should have read:
Somebody else is taking care of my responsibilities and I must no longer reap what I have sown.

Some guy has offered to rob people of money for me so that those I love can enjoy things they or I can't afford. I mean I'm already spending a $100.00 on my cell phone and cable is $120.00. I have l have lots of necessities that must be met before worrying about health care. My family is a genetic train-wreck of inbreeding and meth use, which now can be treated with free drugs for the rest of my life. And hopefully my retarted children will experience the joy of child rearing on the public tab too. Most people who make shitty decisions as I have, such as having kids in my teens or while unable or unwilling to properly care for them, no longer have to live with the guilt or drive to want more for their kids. Fuck it the gov. will do it for me. I no longer have to worry about that stuff. Now I can enjoy my real passion getting high, collecting social welfare, just as God intended.
This is the song of a broken person. I pity people who think like this. Whats the point of continuing? You are the cancer of society.
 
why am i such a bad person for hoping someone else's vision of perfection comes true for them?

That fact that it doesn't always make economic sense to provide treatment to some people doesn't mean that anyone wants them to die. As someone else has already pointed out, similar decisions are being made by people everywhere all the time; healthcare should not be any different. I've been called a heartless bastard for suggesting that the plug get pulled after a certain age, for example, but it makes a lot of sense, since it would keep Medicare from going bankrupt for everyone else.

The average person creates perhaps $2 million of value over their lifetime (I think the actual number is even less). They consume almost all of it, leaving nothing for medical care; they pay almost no taxes aside from payroll taxes; and they take out three times what the actually paid into Medicare. It doesn't make any economic sense to expend large amounts of money to keep them alive.
 
That fact that it doesn't always make economic sense to provide treatment to some people doesn't mean that anyone wants them to die. As someone else has already pointed out, similar decisions are being made by people everywhere all the time; healthcare should not be any different. I've been called a heartless bastard for suggesting that the plug get pulled after a certain age, for example, but it makes a lot of sense, since it would keep Medicare from going bankrupt for everyone else.

The average person creates perhaps $2 million of value over their lifetime (I think the actual number is even less). They consume almost all of it, leaving nothing for medical care; they pay almost no taxes aside from payroll taxes; and they take out three times what the actually paid into Medicare. It doesn't make any economic sense to expend large amounts of money to keep them alive.

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Are you a Harkonnen?
 
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Are you a Harkonnen?

I'm afraid I don't understand the reference, but if it helps, I don't mean we should euthanize people after a certain age or anything like that. What I mean is that when someone's 85 it doesn't make any sense to spend a fortune treating their health problems.
 
I'm afraid I don't understand the reference, but if it helps, I don't mean we should euthanize people after a certain age or anything like that. What I mean is that when someone's 85 it doesn't make any sense to spend a fortune treating their health problems.

dude.

seriously?

watch the classic Dino De Laurentis film DUNE, or if you have a literary bent, read the books (the ones by Frank Herbert, not the subsequent fanfiction type publications)
 
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