Occupy Wall Street Day 11+

deprave

deprave

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[video=youtube;flOr-pKkj4Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flOr-pKkj4Q[/video]

"CNN Conveniently Has Technical Difficulties During Cornel West Occupy Wall Street Interview"
 
bedspirit

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Zero Hedge:


The whole left-versus-right thing is just a distraction trick. It’s really the American people versus the giant bankers, captains of the military-industrial complex, and handful of others who are benefiting by shafting the average American.
Remember that one of the founders of the Tea Party – Karl Denninger – has slammed the current Tea Party (which was quickly co-opted by the mainstream GOP) for serving the rich and the Republican party instead of fighting against the giant banks, and is calling for non-partisan, Gandhi-style nonviolent resistance to take on the banskters.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/wall-street-protest-growing?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+zerohedge/feed+(zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline,+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero)
 
Carne Seca

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This is about to explode. Several unions have pledged to join the protest tomorrow. This could get really ugly, folks.
 
deprave

deprave

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More and more celebrities getting involved also

Russell Simmons Moves To Get Hundreds Of Thousands More Protesters To Wall Street!
[video=youtube;QFKh-L9x6iE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFKh-L9x6iE[/video]
 
deprave

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Yea like carne said looks like atleast 5 unions so far, millions of union members all together. Senator Bernie Sanders interview:
[video=youtube;jmdmoA-dLo0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmdmoA-dLo0[/video]
 
deprave

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[video=youtube;PcBX5lupbjQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcBX5lupbjQ[/video]



Cop who "acidently tripped and tackled protesters head into pavement giving him a concussion" Identified!


 
deprave

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[video=youtube;eU9Dx0x9h4A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU9Dx0x9h4A&feature=player_embedded#![/video]
 
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NoDrama

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All these videos of the police being assholes and arresting people with no cause is what fuels the resistance. If a million people come what will they do if they lose control?
 
The Ruiner

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NoDrama said:
All these videos of the police being assholes and arresting people with no cause is what fuels the resistance. If a million people come what will they do if they lose control?
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The "resistance?" What resistance? You have as much of a right to "protest" until the NYPD says "go home." At that point, you should listen well...Seriously, what do these people think is going to happen? They are just going to somehow be able to have their way with the cops? Get real.

Go home and vote, write legislation...be proactive. Not an agitator with an ill-defined aim.
 
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NoDrama

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The Ruiner said:
The "resistance?" What resistance? You have as much of a right to "protest" until the NYPD says "go home." At that point, you should listen well...Seriously, what do these people think is going to happen? They are just going to somehow be able to have their way with the cops? Get real.

Go home and vote, write legislation...be proactive. Not an agitator with an ill-defined aim.
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You really couldn't care less about freedom could you? The police have no authority to tell people to go home when they are engaged in constitutionally protected behavior. Now you need to get off the forum and go to bed.
 
The Ruiner

The Ruiner

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NoDrama said:
You really couldn't care less about freedom could you? The police have no authority to tell people to go home when they are engaged in constitutionally protected behavior. Now you need to get off the forum and go to bed.
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Yes, they do have the authority. That's why they are called LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. I love freedom, fuck, don't we all? I think we just have very different opinions of how to express it.
 
beardo

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The Ruiner said:
Yes, they do have the authority. That's why they are called LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. I love freedom, fuck, don't we all? I think we just have very different opinions of how to express it.
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Is that what there called even when they are violating laws?
Or are law enforcment officers just the ones who uphold the constitution?
 
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NoDrama

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The Ruiner said:
Yes, they do have the authority. That's why they are called LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. I love freedom, fuck, don't we all? I think we just have very different opinions of how to express it.
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OH, in that case which law are they enforcing? Which law was being enforced when the Police lieutenant sprayed people with pepper spray? Which law is it that says you must arrest and tackle people who are on the sidewalk minding their own business? I think you are VERY confused on what laws are and what rights are. Laws cannot strip rights. The 1st amendment guarantees the people the right to Peaceably ASSEMBLE and absolutely prohibits any laws designed to deny such a right.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 
The Ruiner

The Ruiner

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I am sure that many lawyers would disagree with both of you...on many grounds. I get you're offended, but that doesn't make you "more right."

ND, where did that second paragraph come from again? I must have forgot.
 
beardo

beardo

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If a cop tells you to shut up- you shut up- because he's law enforcment so if he says shut up thats the law, if you don't you are a criminal and he might phisicaly assault you to maintain law and order and if you resist you might get shot- Which is what happens to criminals- that's what we pay cops for. and thats how we know who's guilty- if you get arrested or beaten or shot by a cop, you were breaking the law.
There are only 2 rules
Rule 1 the cop is right
Rule 2 if the cop is wrong refer to rule 1
 
The Ruiner

The Ruiner

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beardo said:
If a cop tells you to shut up- you shut up- because he's law enforcment so if he says shut up thats the law, if you don't you are a criminal and he might phisicaly assault you to maintain law and order and if you resist you might get shot- Which is what happens to criminals- that's what we pay cops for. and thats how we know who's guilty- if you get arrested or beaten or shot by a cop, you were breaking the law.
There are only 2 rules
Rule 1 the cop is right
Rule 2 if the cop is wrong refer to rule 1
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Now you're starting to get it!

My work here is done.
 
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NoDrama

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The Ruiner said:
I am sure that many lawyers would disagree with both of you...on many grounds. I get you're offended, but that doesn't make you "more right."

ND, where did that second paragraph come from again? I must have forgot.
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Do you know the legal definition of a right means that the Government has a obligation? Each legal right that an individual possesses relates to a corresponding legal duty imposed on another. In this case the Government ( that also means the police) shall have the duty of upholding the supreme law of the land. The fact that they are not means they are acting UNLAWFULLY, which does not necessarily mean they are acting illegally. Unlawful and illegal are different things.
 
bedspirit

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It seems the left has finally come out supporting this protest (they waited almost 2 weeks).

Now it's time for a few more conservatives to join the movement. At the moment, I'm a little worried that the Democratic party will hijack this thing and twist it the way the Republicans twisted the tea party.

More Zero Hedge:

I’ve repeatedly warned that there is a scripted, psuedo-war between
Dems and Repubs, liberals and conservatives which is in reality a
false divide-and-conquer dog-and-pony show created by the powers
that be to keep the American people divided and distracted. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this. (In fact, the Founding Fathers warned us about the threat from a two party system.)
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all those "this'" were links to articles. here's the original:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/?-older-posts-wall-street-protest-time-conservative-endorsements?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+zerohedge/feed+(zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline,+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero)
 
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