Of Course, America is number one, right?

It's not just you that's not quite sober -- it's your goal posts, also ... They just moved.

FYI: Population overload. Doesn't matter where in the world, it's just gonna' get worse. I'm ok with it, I rooted for H1N1
Read up on what Scandinavian countries actually do, you might be surprised.

No job is required to get healthcare. No insurance needed.

From the moment you are born, you automatically have free healthcare for life.
That benefits EVERYBODY.

And it's much much cheaper than your insurance-based healthcare, which makes a lot of money to big corporations (which makes people tolerate shitty jobs - just in case they need a doctor).

I'm tired, I'm not good at discussing politics. But I do know nordic system works, regarding health.

And since it does work, there is really nothing you can say!
 

Rob Roy

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Meanwhile we have slipped to numbers 22, 24 and 29 in math, reading/writing, and science. No Child Left Behind? We are killing our country. I give it another 25 years tops.
The Prussian system of "free education" employed in the USA is not designed to create thinkers or achievers. It is designed to create obedience and a sycophantic bleating populace.
 

Rob Roy

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Read up on what Scandinavian countries actually do, you might be surprised.

No job is required to get healthcare. No insurance needed.

From the moment you are born, you automatically have free healthcare for life.
That benefits EVERYBODY.

And it's much much cheaper than your insurance-based healthcare, which makes a lot of money to big corporations (which makes people tolerate shitty jobs - just in case they need a doctor).

I'm tired, I'm not good at discussing politics. But I do know nordic system works, regarding health.

And since it does work, there is really nothing you can say!

The gas showers the Nazi used worked too, yet somehow I think given a choice some of the victims would have chosen to shower elsewhere. When you take away choice, you remove freedom. When discussing the efficacy of a thing it is important to consider the unintended consequences of using force. PEACE.
 

Jimdamick

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I just think that God hates us, and wants to do the world a favor by killing us off as quickly as possible.
 

ginwilly

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Why? It's MY job to make sure the food I put into my body is healthy, will sustain me, and will not cause negative health consequences.

We can blame them, and a lot of other federal agencies -- but the blame should be more focused on us. We CHOSE to give them the power they have, and we choose to follow their recommendations. We also choose to buy less healthy prepared alternatives to cooking from scratch, for expediency's sake.

Absolutely, but we have government programs that are supposedly there as a public health safeguard that does as much damage as good. They do things like approve drugs and disapprove drugs based on factors that have nothing to do with health.

We can't buy a safe, cheaper drug from Canada by law mandated from the FDA. We must buy American drugs (made in Malaysia). If you look at all of the big pharma execs that belong with with the FDA, it's obvious that we allow conflicts of interest spread throughout our government. Our USDA helps select which monopoly to support.

The idea behind these agencies was public safety. But as with anything involving politics and money, corruption took hold. Hell, even from the inception of the USDA backing, they have been bought. Read how Heinz became what it is.

I'm all for individual responsibility as you are smoker, but that doesn't excuse government agencies designed to safeguard society working against us. It's time to eliminate some federal programs.
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

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Diet, exercise, entertainment, quantity of food available, quality of foods available.


When you are the home of McD's, BK, Wendy's, DQ, Taco Bell, R. J. Reynolds, Phillip Morris, Hollywood, etc., you'll get a sick society.
When you have sports on a dozen different channels, blockbuster weekends EVERY WEEKEND, 10 hour+ "work days" that for a great deal of people consist of little more than talking, eating, and fucking off on a computer (even the cashier at McD's is doing nothing but talking, walking around, eating, and fucking off on a computer,) you'll get a lazy society.
When cell phone and video game saturation almost equals literacy rates, there's a new "war on" every week, and a new "get thin fast" diet (or pill) every week, the debate goes from "we need to..." to "how the fuck do we..."

It's a bed we made, all by ourselves. Big companies are only big because we made them that way. Microsoft started as a shit stain company by a geek that liked to drink and drive (Bill Gates, arrested for DUI in Albuquerque, back when it was Micro Soft.) Google is a behemoth, it's a giant that's becoming more and more intertwined with every single aspect of life (fire detectors, now.) Pillsbury, Campbell's, General Mills, Dole: they all started as little companies. Target started out as little more than a trading post. Canned veggies were once a good thing -- because we couldn't get fresh to the shelves everywhere. Now, they're a nasty concoction that's full of high fructose corn syrup, and artificial preservatives. Fruit cups, we send to school with our kids, are less healthy and less good than the (cheaper) fruit that they are supposed to represent.
Walmart started as a 5 and dime store in a small town in Arkansas. Just thought I'd add to your list.
 

NLXSK1

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canndo

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Why? It's MY job to make sure the food I put into my body is healthy, will sustain me, and will not cause negative health consequences.

We can blame them, and a lot of other federal agencies -- but the blame should be more focused on us. We CHOSE to give them the power they have, and we choose to follow their recommendations. We also choose to buy less healthy prepared alternatives to cooking from scratch, for expediency's sake.

so you must grow all of your own food then? and you must feed the animals you grow for eating, the food you grow on your own land, and that land must have been in your family for at least 50 years. And you know exactly where your water comes from and what is in it, if it is a well, you are aware that there are no toxic plumes, if it is a stream you know what is upstream for several hundred miles. You also know what your neighbors are growing and if and what they are spraying or manufacturing.

If you have done all that, I commend you, you do have the choice and you do know what you are putting into your body.

Of course if you havn't done all that, then you have no idea what the hell you are putting into your mouth. None.
 

UncleBuck

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I believe it is because Americans have resisted the totalitarian rule of the president's wife... Maybe he could issue some executive orders...
we get it, you're racist and think michelle is an easy target.

too bad for you that she's smart enough to know that iran has a coastling, alberta is not domestic, and forest fires do not cause global cooling, putting her well above your level of "intellect", a term which i use in the lightest manner possible.
 
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