Official Gaia Green Grow Method

swedsteven

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Tomorow is week 2 so i will topdress the same ratio. 1/4cup off 444 284 and worm casting
3 cups of promix hp each 5 gallon.

next topdress will be week 5 and 8 for sour apple . biscotti finish faster so week 7 for ther last top dress.

Happy stoner plant lol they love it !why make it hard when its so simple .
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Peace keep it green !
 
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farmingfisherman

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Tomorow is week 2 so i will topdress the same ratio. 1/4cup off 444 284 and worm casting
3 cups of promix hp each 5 gallon.

next topdress will be week 5 and 8 for sour apple . biscotti finish faster so week 7 for ther last top dress.

Happy stoner plant lol they love it !why make it hard when its so simple .
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Peace keep it green !
Plants look fantastic, your space makes me want to ditch my tent. Good luck with the final weeks!
 
Wow dont use lime and oyester shell nono with new promix you dont need its already in there
Use your mix of medium promix coco and worm casting and add only the 4-4-4 for the premix as told on the box and top dres 50/50 or 25/75 with the 2-8-4 every 3 to 4 week more then that is to much . I am high peace bro read on this site a lot off great info.

1cup off 4-4-4 is enought for the first 5 gallon mix
Then half for the topdress use a litlle off worm casting when top dressing and mix it on the top even if it break some small root half inch off the top soil. Good luck water only
You said "1cup of 4-4-4 is enough for the first 5 gallon mix" I am confused. Do you mean to say that you mix 1 cup og dry ferts into water and use for regular watering or do you mean 1cup of 444 per gall
on of growing medium?
 

Grow Monster

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Gaia Green isn't that great. It's nice if all you want to do is water your plants after you plant them. It's like the lazy stoner grow method. It works, but it is a cessna and not a fighter jet.
Last I checked all nutes do the same thing. Maybe its you thats not that great of a grower. I've tried several brands and only difference was cost and which I preferred to mix. Some smelled better but side by side comparison u wouldn't be able to tell which bud was grown with what. Even with smoke test. If its so easy and for lazy growers whats the problem with that? What else do u want to do with your plants other then feed and water? All growing is easy unless u get a pest problem maybe. Shouldn't be anything else.
 

swedsteven

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You said "1cup of 4-4-4 is enough for the first 5 gallon mix" I am confused. Do you mean to say that you mix 1 cup og dry ferts into water and use for regular watering or do you mean 1cup of 444 per gall
on of growing medium?
Yes 1 cup off 444 mix in 5 gallon promix hp is enought. Do not mix it in the water mix it in the medium (promix hp).
Then topdress on top off your medium.50/50 every 3 week 1/2cup off dry fert 1/4 cup 284 1/4 cup 444
You can add ewc each topdress and little more medium to your top dress like 2-3 cup.
Nothing more .I use tap water
 

Canadian_Growing

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Last I checked all nutes do the same thing. Maybe its you thats not that great of a grower. I've tried several brands and only difference was cost and which I preferred to mix. Some smelled better but side by side comparison u wouldn't be able to tell which bud was grown with what. Even with smoke test. If its so easy and for lazy growers whats the problem with that? What else do u want to do with your plants other then feed and water? All growing is easy unless u get a pest problem maybe. Shouldn't be anything else.
You missed my point I suppose that there is more control with chemical fertilizers. You cannot 'flush out' some Gaia Green from your soil. Organic fertilizers break down at different speeds. Chemical fertilizers provide, as you said, exactly the same nutrients. But they can be controlled more scientifically. I use Gaia Green for my plants in vegetative growth, but will always use chemical fertilizers for flowering. FEED-FEED-FLUSH has worked for me for decades.
If you would like to learn about the differences, the University of Guelph offers courses on cannabis cultivation. From a University specializing in agriculture. It may cost you about $600, but I suggest the investment if you argue that organic and chemical nutrients are the same...
 

Jjgrow420

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You missed my point I suppose that there is more control with chemical fertilizers. You cannot 'flush out' some Gaia Green from your soil. Organic fertilizers break down at different speeds. Chemical fertilizers provide, as you said, exactly the same nutrients. But they can be controlled more scientifically. I use Gaia Green for my plants in vegetative growth, but will always use chemical fertilizers for flowering. FEED-FEED-FLUSH has worked for me for decades.
If you would like to learn about the differences, the University of Guelph offers courses on cannabis cultivation. From a University specializing in agriculture. It may cost you about $600, but I suggest the investment if you argue that organic and chemical nutrients are the same...
Quit while your behind.
If you don't know, then don't offer advice like you do.
 

weedstoner420

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You missed my point I suppose that there is more control with chemical fertilizers. You cannot 'flush out' some Gaia Green from your soil. Organic fertilizers break down at different speeds. Chemical fertilizers provide, as you said, exactly the same nutrients. But they can be controlled more scientifically. I use Gaia Green for my plants in vegetative growth, but will always use chemical fertilizers for flowering. FEED-FEED-FLUSH has worked for me for decades.
If you would like to learn about the differences, the University of Guelph offers courses on cannabis cultivation. From a University specializing in agriculture. It may cost you about $600, but I suggest the investment if you argue that organic and chemical nutrients are the same...
I don't think your message is going to gain much traction in the organics section...

Yes in the end all nutrients are just ions absorbed by the plant roots, but in practice, chemical fertilizers seem like they're much easier to over-apply, hence the need to flush them out periodically, or feed way less than the manufacturer recommends (for reference, see like 90% of posts in the Newbie Central and Plant Problems sections)... Personally I have never had a problem using dry organic fertilizer blends per the manufacturer's instructions, but I torched the shit out of everything I grew when using GH flora trio at the rates printed on the bottles.

What positive effects have you observed when using organic dry ferts in veg and chemical nutes in flower, vs just dry ferts the whole way through?

And finally, are you or any of your friends or family employed by the University of Guelph? :P
 

Grow Monster

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You cannot 'flush out' some Gaia Green from your soil.
U sound crazy. Why would u need to flush organic nutes out of medium. It's even better when reusing soil for all the microbes. U only flush synthetic salts.
FEED-FEED-FLUSH has worked for me for decades.
o_O :wall: Sounds ridiculous. Let me give it nutes then flush it out. Flushing is something u do with a toilet. Whats the point of back to back feeding unless you're in coco. U can feed once or twice a week but its always strait water in-between.
more control with chemical fertilizers.
Yeah u can control when u burn them. U obviously know nothing about organic growing. Plant gets to take what nutes they need when they want em out of the soil. Not force fed synthetic salts that build up in the medium.
University of Guelph offers courses on cannabis cultivation. From a University specializing in agriculture. It may cost you about $600,
If u paid money to learn how to grow weed then that says alot. Like u needed major help! P.s. get yo money back. Maybe u barely passed the class or skipped to many days.
 

Canadian_Growing

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U sound crazy. Why would u need to flush organic nutes out of medium. It's even better when reusing soil for all the microbes. U only flush synthetic salts.

o_O :wall: Sounds ridiculous. Let me give it nutes then flush it out. Flushing is something u do with a toilet. Whats the point of back to back feeding unless you're in coco. U can feed once or twice a week but its always strait water in-between.

Yeah u can control when u burn them. U obviously know nothing about organic growing. Plant gets to take what nutes they need when they want em out of the soil. Not force fed synthetic salts that build up in the medium.

If u paid money to learn how to grow weed then that says alot. Like u needed major help! P.s. get yo money back. Maybe u barely passed the class or skipped to many days.
Can Gaia Green cause nutrient burn? Can Gaia Green usage when it comes to the 'top dressing' stage reduce the potential maximum yield from a a crop? How many days after applying a top-dressing does it take for the nutrients to become available to the plant? And do the nutrients in a mixture all become available at the same time? These are questions you can avoid using salt based fertilizers.

I am not bashing Gaia Green. I said I use it myself for veg. I choose not to use it for flowering because I prefer more control and bigger yields.
 

swedsteven

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Can Gaia Green cause nutrient burn? Can Gaia Green usage when it comes to the 'top dressing' stage reduce the potential maximum yield from a a crop? How many days after applying a top-dressing does it take for the nutrients to become available to the plant? And do the nutrients in a mixture all become available at the same time? These are questions you can avoid using salt based fertilizers.

I am not bashing Gaia Green. I said I use it myself for veg. I choose not to use it for flowering because I prefer more control and bigger yields.
I did a lot off side by side and organic win sry ...if it work for you good for you. try my mix make a side by side with clone you will feel it and smell it !good luck ps got my best yield with organic in 14 years off growing i will never go back to hydro coco...canna dyna grow megacrop jack 321 and more ... I love simple organic growing.
 
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