Oh Goodie! ... More on 911 (inside job) :)

hom36rown said:

And what leads you to believe it wasn't al quaeda, we identified the high-jackers and they even admitted to it.

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Ah ... because the government hasn't provided any proof to back their conspiracy theory ... we are expected to take them at their lying word ... not. And the ones that "admitted" to it were tortured ... nuff said.

hom36rown said:

And you don't think it was the government, but you think they are lying to us about al-quaeda...soooo you think another terrorist group did it and the gov't framed al quaeda...for what reason exactly?

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The elite in government made up "Al-Qaeda" in order to have a perpetual war with perpetual profits for them ... that's why.

hom36rown said:

From your last couple posts I take it you believe the buildings were blown up...so then, you think some really crafty terrorists did this?

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Yeah ... the elite. The military industrial complex ... oil companies ... the elite.

Has anyone addressed the spies that both China and Russia have throughout the US government infrastructure, and here in Canada as well?

You would think that either country would have obtained documents or proof of conspiracy that would have allowed them to capitalize ruthlessly on the issue.

Or is that used to explain why a good chunk of US equity belongs to China at the moment?

Does anyone here even see a point to responding to GrowRebel? He must be a kid because all his posts sound like stuff I remember from the playground:

Nu uh, nu uh, nu uh, nu uh. No you shut up, no you shut up. I know you are but what am I? I'm rubber you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.

I honestly know 10 year olds that are brighter than GrowRebel. I post a link to a legitimate engineering journal and he asks me to prove that that is what it is.

Here is a link to the journal, I'll let you decide. Is this legitimate or bogus?

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/jomhome.asp

Here is a synopsis:

Published monthly by The Minerals, Metals & Materials Society (TMS), JOM is a technical journal devoted to exploring the many aspects of materials science and engineering.
JOM reports scholarly work that explores the state-of-the-art processing, fabrication, design, and application of metals, ceramics, plastics, composites, and other materials. In pursuing this goal, JOM strives to balance the interests of the laboratory and the marketplace by reporting academic, industrial, and government-sponsored work from around the world.
What does JOM contain?
The editorial scope includes archival-quality technical papers, general overviews, economic outlooks, developments in engineering education, articles on professional concerns, archaeotechnology papers, research and business updates, meetings announcements, interviews, opinion pieces, conference and literature reviews, software coverage, and news about TMS. Each issue thoroughly explores at least two technical topics by presenting three to six articles on each subject. In this way, JOM provides well-rounded coverage of an array of materials-related subjects, from minerals characterization and developments in extraction to the production of advanced electronic materials and the performance of tomorrow's aerospace structural components.

Gee, this sure sounds like a bunch of real egg heads to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JOM

5 seconds on Google might have helped him out.

Google is a conspiracy.....

CrackerJax said:

Google is a conspiracy.....

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I'm for any conspiracy that helps me find both educational reading material and decent porn.

Hmmm.... the playboy conspiracy it is then. I hear they airbrush the covers with nano thermite.

RickWhite said:

Gee, this sure sounds like a bunch of real egg heads to me.

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A bunch of egg head who are wrong like NIST and the 911 commission ... not to mention you failed to proved the information No posted was a conspiracy site. ... gee ... some people just can't handle the fact that lots of people are pushing for a real investigation and will continue to do so until all unanswered questions have been answered. Must be hard. Too bad ... so sad.

GrowRebel said:

A bunch of egg head who are wrong like NIST and the 911 commission ... not to mention you failed to proved the information No posted was a conspiracy site. ... gee ... some people just can't handle the fact that lots of people are pushing for a real investigation and will continue to do so until all unanswered questions have been answered. Must be hard. Too bad ... so sad.

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Nothing will ever come from anything you say here...you are wasting your time with this obsession.

Your print is larger than his.
You must be right.

hom36rown said:

Arent you the one always ranting about socialism? Oh that puts the people in charge huh(yeah right) You support universal healthcare...I'd say that equates to more government power.

And what leads you to believe it wasn't al quaeda, we identified the high-jackers and they even admitted to it.

And you don't think it was the government, but you think they are lying to us about al-quaeda...soooo you think another terrorist group did it and the gov't framed al quaeda...for what reason exactly? Or...what exactly. Why would the gov't lie about who perpetrated it, unless they thmeselves were involved?

From your last couple posts I take it you believe the buildings were blown up...so then, you think some really crafty terrorists did this?

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If by "ranting about socialism" you mean showing my disgust that so many Americans (who consider themselves so "smart") have NO idea what socialism is, then yes, that's me.

Yes, socialism can put power in the hands of the people. Yet another display of your ignorance about socialism. I'd implore you to speak to someone who considers themselves "socialist" and ask them what socialism is and how it relates to democracy. Of course, you'd have to set aside your irrational fear of socialism first.

Universal health care equates to more government power? How so? I'm in favor of a single payer system. The only power the government would have is the power to pay the medical bills. I'm guessing you don't really know what a single payer system is, do you?

We caught the hijackers and they CONFESSED? Wow.. how did they survive the plane crash?

I think they lied about Al-Qaeda so they could lead us into an endless war to profit THEMSELVES at the expense of the entire nation.

If you want to establish motive, just look at who had the most to gain from these buildings falling. No, I don't think it was "terrorists" at all (not the kind you're referring to, aka muslims). I think the government may have had a hand in it, but I don't think GWB is smart enough to come up with this all on his own.

Police departments: Socialist
Fire departments: Socialist
Public Works: Socialist
Miltary: Socialist

Down with all of them!

morgentaler said:

Wow Jax,
Before you retired did you deal with a lot of crazy people? Did you miss it that badly?

Between the Fundies and the 911 Truthers, where do you find time to relax?

Are you fighting in a Birther thread too?

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Actually, Jax IS a birther.

cracker

i posted 9 of the 19 hijackers were alive and well, which they are

then you told me i need to learn to read?

if i couldnt read, i couldnt type either, so ................ yeah confused




rick, honestly, instead of calling people names and attacking them, which makes your credibility go down the toilet faster then chipotle......why not come back with evidence to support your claims



like i said, 9 of the 19 hijackers are still alive


2 of the 4 planes supposedly destroyed on 9/11 are still marked as "valid" aircraft while the other 2 are marked "destroyed". from UA's own documents


president bush's brother, at the time of 9/11, was the head of a kuwait / american security company


this company managed security for BOTH the WTC complex AND united airlines


i guess 9/11 was a day of historical firsts, events that defy physics, as well as the single most co-incidents to ever happen in a single day

doobnVA said:

Actually, Jax IS a birther.

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mmmm birthers




personally, i wouldnt throw myself into this category



but my mind just cant help but as, why cant 1 single legit document be shown to the public


it would shut everyone up real quick


its the same for the pentagon plane crash (there was no plane)




if the government wants us to believe a plane crashed into the pentagon, all they would have to do is release 1 of the at least 10 CCTV videos that would have caught the plane on tape



the surrounding business tapes were immediately confiscated by the FBI, to this day they have not been released

Keenly said:

mmmm birthers




personally, i wouldnt throw myself into this category



but my mind just cant help but as, why cant 1 single legit document be shown to the public


it would shut everyone up real quick


its the same for the pentagon plane crash (there was no plane)




if the government wants us to believe a plane crashed into the pentagon, all they would have to do is release 1 of the at least 10 CCTV videos that would have caught the plane on tape



the surrounding business tapes were immediately confiscated by the FBI, to this day they have not been released

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There has been a single, legit document shown. OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

Just because it isn't the mythical "long form" certificate that the birthers insist is the ONLY TRUE birth certificate (despite the fact that NO state issues these "long form" certificates anymore) doesn't mean it isn't legit.

My birth certificate looks like something I could print up off my own computer, and so do my kids'. Does that make them fake? Nope, just makes the state a bunch of cheapskates.


"socialist" for republicans is like "smurfy" to the smurfs. An adjective they can apply indiscriminately to anything. Nevermind that they couldn't tell the difference between socialism and botulism.

"Gee, Papa Smurf, isn't this Smurf Library smurfy?"

"Gee, Glenn Beck, that Obamacare sure is socialist."

What's funny is that the "socialist" in Congress, Bernie Sanders, voted AGAINST the wall street bailouts! That's right! The socialist voted against the "socialist" takeover of banks by the government. Gee, whiz... kinda makes you wonder if maybe those bailouts weren't so "socialist" after all!

The Democratic Socialists of America say Obama is NOT one of them!

Yet the insanity continues.

doobnVA said:

If by "ranting about socialism" you mean showing my disgust that so many Americans (who consider themselves so "smart") have NO idea what socialism is, then yes, that's me.

Yes, socialism can put power in the hands of the people. Yet another display of your ignorance about socialism. I'd implore you to speak to someone who considers themselves "socialist" and ask them what socialism is and how it relates to democracy. Of course, you'd have to set aside your irrational fear of socialism first.

Universal health care equates to more government power? How so? I'm in favor of a single payer system. The only power the government would have is the power to pay the medical bills. I'm guessing you don't really know what a single payer system is, do you?

We caught the hijackers and they CONFESSED? Wow.. how did they survive the plane crash?

I think they lied about Al-Qaeda so they could lead us into an endless war to profit THEMSELVES at the expense of the entire nation.

If you want to establish motive, just look at who had the most to gain from these buildings falling. No, I don't think it was "terrorists" at all (not the kind you're referring to, aka muslims). I think the government may have had a hand in it, but I don't think GWB is smart enough to come up with this all on his own.

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Al quaeda confessed, not the high jackers... remember that bin laden guy. So if al quaeda didn't do it, who did it? And what leads you to believe this? ANd do you, or do you not think the buildings were blown up?

hom36rown said:

Al quaeda confessed, not the high jackers... remember that bin laden guy. So if al quaeda didn't do it, who did it? And what leads you to believe this? ANd do you, or do you not think the buildings were blown up?

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i think i got this one doob........
i think i remember the bin laden guy, he was the one americans blamed for 911 , the same guy who we cant find still? the same guy who IS NOT on the FBI wanted list for 911, (there are others on the fbi 911 wanted list , just not him?)
well IF al quaeda did not do this with help from U.S. then that only leaves the government / elite ? If we were to ever get a REAL investigation , maybe ALL of us will find out who.......
(yes i am admitting that i dont know who done this)
why do I believe all this...... well because it is VERY obvious that the government has somthing to hide and i would like to find out what. (if u need more reasons just ask)
and for the final question , (this is just a guess on what doob thinks....) Yes they were "blown up" .... well i dont think nano thermite "blows up" but it will cut right through steel ..... - the explosion. Now that is a just a highly educated opinion
What i do know is a FACT is them buildings were not brought down by fires or planes. again a real investigation will prove somebody wrong. If we are just makin shit up or just being theorist , then why would it be so hard to just release some more info and shut us all up??

wyteboi said:

i think i got this one doob........
i think i remember the bin laden guy, he was the one americans blamed for 911 , the same guy who we cant find still? the same guy who IS NOT on the FBI wanted list for 911, (there are others on the fbi 911 wanted list , just not him?)
well IF al quaeda did not do this with help from U.S. then that only leaves the government / elite ? If we were to ever get a REAL investigation , maybe ALL of us will find out who.......
(yes i am admitting that i dont know who done this)
why do I believe all this...... well because it is VERY obvious that the government has somthing to hide and i would like to find out what. (if u need more reasons just ask)
and for the final question , (this is just a guess on what doob thinks....) Yes they were "blown up" .... well i dont think nano thermite "blows up" but it will cut right through steel ..... - the explosion. Now that is a just a highly educated opinion
What i do know is a FACT is them buildings were not brought down by fires or planes. again a real investigation will prove somebody wrong. If we are just makin shit up or just being theorist , then why would it be so hard to just release some more info and shut us all up??

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Wow, that response if chock full of IF, I Think, and maybes...

Here's a core problem, and shows the POLITICAL agenda behind the "truthers":

You said: well IF al quaeda did not do this with help from U.S. then that only leaves the government / elite ? If we were to ever get a REAL investigation , maybe ALL of us will find out who.......

You left out the most OBVIOUS scenario..... which you don't want to even consider because of politics, which is a real indication you have no interest in science or the truth. You just want to slam a sq1uare peg in a round hole.

The most LIKELY scenario is the Al Queda pulled off a terrific terrorist plot which was the culmination of 8 years of a failed Clinton Foreign policy.

That is the ACCEPTED reason for 9/11.

But you CAN'T accept it. You can't even consider it, which makes you all look silly and one sided....which of course....you all are!!

Why use logic when you have youtube!!!

Keenly said:

but my mind just cant help but as, why cant 1 single legit document be shown to the public


it would shut everyone up real quick


its the same for the pentagon plane crash (there was no plane)




if the government wants us to believe a plane crashed into the pentagon, all they would have to do is release 1 of the at least 10 CCTV videos that would have caught the plane on tape



the surrounding business tapes were immediately confiscated by the FBI, to this day they have not been released

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They finally released ONE tape of the pentagon plane but it was chopped up by a computer (frames missin) So yea 1 WHOLE video might just shut us all up ,
So WHY? why is it so hard to put out this info , what are you greedy fucks hidin?
Its THAT simple ..... just put out some info that is impossible to argue and thousands of folks would just shut up and quit askin for a new investigation.

heres one scenario : Al quada paid security to turn there heads while they did their job.
Now that would shut me up because i have no proof beyond that point.
But as of now , I have plenty of proof saying the official report is Totally fucked.



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