oh this is bad....

Red1966

Red1966

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SnotNazi said:
How can a weak 60-120hz ballasts transmit a strong enough signal to disrupt your neighborhoods cable. I still don't buy it. The only place I read about this phenomenon is in forums written by people like us....all the scientific forums and articles I read say it can only interfere a nearby area - i.e. only your house or TV that is closest to the ballast - either way FCC does regulate this but you will not be fined for denying access to the cable guy, but they will cut your service if they cannot enter your house and they are suspect that you are the cause. Look at the FCC website for yourself. The cable company can detect minute amounts of interference at HQ that tech guys on the road cannot. Even someone else in this thread said that the cable guy that came to their house was glad to finally find the place causing the interference. Either way, if someone you don't know and wasn't expecting shows up at your house tell them to go away and especially never invite them into your home. What would you rather have, a house with no HBO or a jail cell with no HBO, just saying. Read some forums and you'll get plenty of fixes to limit the leakage.
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You apparently have never read the advertizing or the label on the box the ballast came in. Look up Lumitek or Galaxie, they mention their shielding on there website.
 
Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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SnotNazi said:
IT WILL ONLY AFFECT A SMALL AREA how do you guys not understand - whatever by all means invite strangers into your home and end up in jail - think I'm being paranoid then by all means continue but imo I would have told them to fuck off. I even talked to an electrician today who said you are all fucking retarded so idk I'm just going to bow out and let you guys do your thing - PEACE!
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I love how your telling me it can't happen, when it happened to me not but a few months ago. Radio frequency travels back through your cable wires if they are old or unplugged at the floor but plugged in at main. This is an extremely common issue with digital ballast, not something new.

The cable company is not there to cause you any problems, or rob you, or are cops. Come on man. You do not have to allow them access, even if they ask. Simply say "no, I'm not comfortable with strangers in the house, can you do what u need from the outside, and instruct me what to do on the inside". They guys that come out have a job to do, if they don't do it they get in trouble with their boss. rfi effects way more than just cable and internet.

Your electrician friend and yourself should research further into it. You can tell him to get a EMF meter and walk around a grow room. Your ballast, mini splits, dehumidifier, blue lab guardians or trimeters all put off rfi. Put it on the wires at the powerbox for those equipment on 220, it'll go crazy.

Rfi is real, and it's also real easy to deal with.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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SnotNazi said:
IT WILL ONLY AFFECT A SMALL AREA how do you guys not understand - whatever by all means invite strangers into your home and end up in jail - think I'm being paranoid then by all means continue but imo I would have told them to fuck off. I even talked to an electrician today who said you are all fucking retarded so idk I'm just going to bow out and let you guys do your thing - PEACE!
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Who said anything about inviting them in? Is jumping to conclusions your only exercise?
 
Red1966

Red1966

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My trimeter's instructions say not to place it within 8 ft of the ballast, cable, or bulb because RFI will screw up the readings.
 
T

TWS

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Carolina Dream'n said:
I love how your telling me it can't happen, when it happened to me not but a few months ago. Radio frequency travels back through your cable wires if they are old or unplugged at the floor but plugged in at main. This is an extremely common issue with digital ballast, not something new.

The cable company is not there to cause you any problems, or rob you, or are cops. Come on man. You do not have to allow them access, even if they ask. Simply say "no, I'm not comfortable with strangers in the house, can you do what u need from the outside, and instruct me what to do on the inside". They guys that come out have a job to do, if they don't do it they get in trouble with their boss. rfi effects way more than just cable and internet.

Your electrician friend and yourself should research further into it. You can tell him to get a EMF meter and walk around a grow room. Your ballast, mini splits, dehumidifier, blue lab guardians or trimeters all put off rfi. Put it on the wires at the powerbox for those equipment on 220, it'll go crazy.

Rfi is real, and it's also real easy to deal with.
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You can use an AM radio for this.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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For the skeptics....thjs is a very real problem. The new digital ballasts do give iff a lot if interference...not only the ballasts that growers use. All of them.

Same cable guy deal happened to me. They came in and had a look and tightened up some loose connections as well pulled out some old coax that wasnt being used. Problem solved.

But these digital ballasts being used in malls office buildings are wreaking havic all over the place, to the point at which legislation is being considered in some states and provinces.......

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DemonTrich

DemonTrich

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I run 4x600w Apollo ballasts and NEVER had any issues. my router is 15' away, and I run 3x55" plasma TV's, and 3x dvr boxes (yeah, im a pimp). 2x laptops, 1x ps3 and use intenet on that as well, and stream music from 7pm to 2am daily, and never any issues.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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SnotNazi said:
YOUR cable not your NEIGHBORS come on now guys have some fucking common sense here. we are not working with two ton electromagnets. The field these things produce are NOT that strong. Simple science my friends. Not to get rude but pick up a book sometime and have some common sense. If it wasn't a cop it was someone looking to rob you. If my neighbors are having problems with their cable and the cable guy came over he would ask if i was having troubles and that he would like to take a look if you were. Were you? With the details you've left, it wasn't the cable guy. Did you even see what company he worked for? Where he came from? Where he went after your house? How did he know right away that you fixed the problem???? Did you ask yourself any questions besides " is my light the right one?"
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Your cable in your house will pick it up and conduct it along the cable to the neighborhood. All they have to do is disconnect connections until the interference goes away. Voila! There's the culprit. You are one stubborn idiot.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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DemonTrich said:
I run 4x600w Apollo ballasts and NEVER had any issues. my router is 15' away, and I run 3x55" plasma TV's, and 3x dvr boxes (yeah, im a pimp). 2x laptops, 1x ps3 and use intenet on that as well, and stream music from 7pm to 2am daily, and never any issues.
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"my router is 15' away" Exactly, thus it's far enough away the field strength is negligible. Your TV, DVR, computers don't put out shit in the way of RFI.
 
dbkick

dbkick

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SnotNazi said:
How can a weak 60-120hz ballasts transmit a strong enough signal to disrupt your neighborhoods cable. I still don't buy it. The only place I read about this phenomenon is in forums written by people like us....all the scientific forums and articles I read say it can only interfere a nearby area - i.e. only your house or TV that is closest to the ballast - either way FCC does regulate this but you will not be fined for denying access to the cable guy, but they will cut your service if they cannot enter your house and they are suspect that you are the cause. Look at the FCC website for yourself. The cable company can detect minute amounts of interference at HQ that tech guys on the road cannot. Even someone else in this thread said that the cable guy that came to their house was glad to finally find the place causing the interference. Either way, if someone you don't know and wasn't expecting shows up at your house tell them to go away and especially never invite them into your home. What would you rather have, a house with no HBO or a jail cell with no HBO, just saying. Read some forums and you'll get plenty of fixes to limit the leakage.
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Digital ballasts operate at up to 70khz. The new DE ballasts 100+ khz.
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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Weird, cant be interfering with the wireless signal(it can easily distort wifi signals but the ballast has to be in between the router and user which doesnt sound likely. If your ballast is cheap, it may have some noise feedback through the cable, however your neighbors shouldnt notice this feedback since it doesnt run directly to them... However, if its sitting next to a cable line, that could slow shit down for you and your neighbors
 
DemonTrich

DemonTrich

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what im saying is I don't get any issues on my electronics.

I used to live in a condo (ranch style, 4 to a building). I ran 3x Apollo 600w ballasts and NEVER any issues with my electronics or my neighbors. ALL had comcrap.


so please don't put my success with Apollo as all junk/garbage. maybe it was YOU who had faulty equipment and was causing an issue for others. this is NOT my case.

thank you very much. this message was brought to you by DemonTrich. take it as you like, or piss off. either way, I don't care. I LOVE my Apollo ballasts and see NO reason to spend 2x the price for other ballasts that HAVE the same Rf issues. see avatar for further instructions if you don't like what I say.
 
Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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Red1966 said:
Don't wrap anything around a ballast. It will overheat.
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Def not, if u can't get rid of rfi with all the other suggestions in this thread. Build a fairday cage. It's simply a 2x4 frame around your ballast, then get some copper wire (u can use copper mesh, just doesn't work as well) and make a grid around the frame. Ballast to be under the wire. The tighter your squares on your grid, the better it does at preventing rfi. You the must ground that frame to a ground separate from your homes ground(which is usually shared ground for your cable line).

Nanolux also sells rfi fairday clamps that go on both sides of your ballast, they work well if your only have a cpl ballast.
 
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