Ohio Legalization

TheHermit

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If I knew any med patients in need I would give them all the free weed they want. I doubt responsible ohio would do that. Wouldn't a cancer patient benefit more by being able to grow their own. After the hospitals are finished fleecing them for every dime to their name, I doubt they could afford $25 a gram weed. When have monopolies ever been a good thing? Opinions on marijuana are changing by the day in a good way. We shouldn't jump at whatever garbage they feel like throwing us. Patience is a virtue.
 

mike4c4

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If I knew any med patients in need I would give them all the free weed they want. I doubt responsible ohio would do that. Wouldn't a cancer patient benefit more by being able to grow their own. After the hospitals are finished fleecing them for every dime to their name, I doubt they could afford $25 a gram weed. When have monopolies ever been a good thing? Opinions on marijuana are changing by the day in a good way. We shouldn't jump at whatever garbage they feel like throwing us. Patience is a virtue.
Well i do know a few med. pat. most are unable to even get out of bed let a lone grow. All i know is they are sick, they hurt and they are reaching out for help no matter how small or where it comes from,
 

Sire Killem All

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it is Ohio so i don't think it will matter much, Ohio has always been the last to accept / intoduce change, anyone from there would know that. better chance of the feds going legal IMHO. Most are too conservative, every state around it had casinos for yrs before they got it, and been on ballots for over 15 yrs.
 

Julius Caesar

Active Member
Reasonable Ohio = Monopoly of 10 commercial growers with NO personal home growing exemption. All marijuana in Ohio must be purchased by distributors from these 10 growers.

Reasonable Ohioans for Cannabis (ROC) = Personal home growing, commercial growing with fees, standard sales tax, amnesty for certain marijuana convictions, etc.

Both of these groups are supporting recreational marijuana. A third group, ORG, is supporting medical only. I am trying to point as many people as possible to the better group IMO, and doing my best to explain the difference between the two. Responsible Ohio has absolutely no shame in trying to steal the name of Responsible Ohioans for Cannabis.

Please, everyone in Ohio support Responsible Ohioans for Cannabis and get those signatures! - http://responsibleohioans.org/
 
Responsible Ohio revised the Amendment to Include homegrow. "It is lawful for persons 21 years of age or older to grow, cultivate, use, possess and share with another person 21 years of age or older homegrown marijuana in an amount not to exceed four flowering marijuana plants and eight ounces of useable homegrown marijuana at a given time; provided, however, that such person must first obtain a non-transferable license pursuant to Commission-promulgated rules and regulations, which include, at a minimum, registration requirements and rules ensuring that homegrown marijuana is not grown or consumed within public view and that home-growing takes place on an enclosed, locked space inaccessible to persons under the age of 21."
 

mike4c4

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Responsible Ohio revised the Amendment to Include homegrow. "It is lawful for persons 21 years of age or older to grow, cultivate, use, possess and share with another person 21 years of age or older homegrown marijuana in an amount not to exceed four flowering marijuana plants and eight ounces of useable homegrown marijuana at a given time; provided, however, that such person must first obtain a non-transferable license pursuant to Commission-promulgated rules and regulations, which include, at a minimum, registration requirements and rules ensuring that homegrown marijuana is not grown or consumed within public view and that home-growing takes place on an enclosed, locked space inaccessible to persons under the age of 21."
And much more to be added soon.
 

timbo123

Active Member
I respectfully disagree with mike4c4. There are other groups that are proposing far better legislation for Ohio.
We are talking about a change to the Ohio constitution. We need to do it right the first time.
Also note that after Responsible Ohio's proposed amendment became public knowledge recently thru Ohio news media, the public response was so overwhelmingly along the lines of "I am FOR legalization but not for this ish,,," and "I will not vote for any amendment that doesn't permit growing",,, Responsible Ohio changed their wording to allow up to 4 plants to be grown at home.
Note that was only after conceding that they would not even get the vote of the majority of marijuana proponents.
 

timbo123

Active Member
Reasonable Ohio = Monopoly of 10 commercial growers with NO personal home growing exemption. All marijuana in Ohio must be purchased by distributors from these 10 growers.

Reasonable Ohioans for Cannabis (ROC) = Personal home growing, commercial growing with fees, standard sales tax, amnesty for certain marijuana convictions, etc.

Both of these groups are supporting recreational marijuana. A third group, ORG, is supporting medical only. I am trying to point as many people as possible to the better group IMO, and doing my best to explain the difference between the two. Responsible Ohio has absolutely no shame in trying to steal the name of Responsible Ohioans for Cannabis.

Please, everyone in Ohio support Responsible Ohioans for Cannabis and get those signatures! - http://responsibleohioans.org/
I agree 100%
 

Ambulator

Member
Here is what is going on in Ohio.

There is a group calling itself Responsible Ohio. http://responsibleohio.com

They are slowly releasing information a little bit at a time. This group is backed by some very powerful business people. Some names have been released but not all the players.

Here are some of the highlights of their amendment:

There will only be 10 grow locations. No doubt owned by the backers of the initiative

There will only be 5 testing facilities. No doubt owned by the backers of the initiative

Entrepreneurs, age 21 will be able to apply for license to operate a retail store, non profit medical marijuana retail store or manufacturing of cannabis products such as edibles etc....

There is no home grow in this initiative.

15% flat tax. Producer to retailer 15%, retailer to consumer 15%. Result for consumer 30% + tax

This group has the financial backing to pay for signature gatherers, media campaign, lobby, etc...

Our grass roots groups in Ohio don't have the resources that Responsible Ohio does. The grass roots amendments are alot better then Responsible Ohio, promoting a "Free Market" business model and not the monopolistic model proposed by Responsible Ohio.

Here are the grassroots sites: http://www.ohiorightsgroup.org/ http://responsibleohioans.org/ http://www.legalizeohio2016.org/
Of course it will be wealthy business people who have control if it all. Did you forget that we live in a greed filled society lol. The whole grassroots lobby that started the movement will be forgotten as long as the rich and powerful have their hands in it.
 

mike4c4

Well-Known Member
I respectfully disagree with mike4c4. There are other groups that are proposing far
We are talking about a change to the Ohio constitution. We need to do it right the first time.
Also note that after Responsible Ohio's proposed amendment became public knowledge recently thru Ohio news media, the public response was so overwhelmingly along the lines of "I am FOR legalization but not for this ish,,," and "I will not vote for any amendment that doesn't permit growing",,, changed their wording to allow up to 4 plants to be grown at home.
Note that was only after conceding that they would not even get the vote of the majority of marijuana proponents.
How is what you said disagreeing with me. is pussing it through no mater about others that have been offering better better legislation for Ohio. The point is Responsible Ohio is pussing it through, and just like we got them to add plant grow limit to the bill we have to say what we want. We cant sit on our fat asses and give them no input on what we want, then cry like a bitch when we dont get it. Im not saying they are the best and i believe all they say. Im saying its happining they are the ones getting it done so lets make our voices heard on what we want.
 

TheHermit

Well-Known Member
I like it much better with the homegrow added. I still think government sponsored monopolies are wrong, but if I could grow my own, I guess I wouldn't have to worry about it.
 
Responsible Ohio's ballot language was rejected by the AG. They are fixing it and will resubmit soon. Responsible Ohioans for Cannabis has submitted their language and should hear from the AG by February 27, 2015.
 

overgrowem

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Responsible Ohio revised the Amendment to Include homegrow. "It is lawful for persons 21 years of age or older to grow, cultivate, use, possess and share with another person 21 years of age or older homegrown marijuana in an amount not to exceed four flowering marijuana plants and eight ounces of useable homegrown marijuana at a given time; provided, however, that such person must first obtain a non-transferable license pursuant to Commission-promulgated rules and regulations, which include, at a minimum, registration requirements and rules ensuring that homegrown marijuana is not grown or consumed within public view and that home-growing takes place on an enclosed, locked space inaccessible to persons under the age of 21."
Puts the gov. its fees, taxes,codes,inspectors, etc right in the middle or Ur homegrow. What if a question on the permit is "Do you posses a firearm? Where does that take U?
 
Responsible Ohio has cleared the ballot board and will begin sending out it's paid signature collectors this Wenesday. I have no doubt that they will get the 305,000+ signatures needed to get on the ballot. I have been collecting signatures for The Ohio Rights Group. They currently have 150,000+ signatures, so they may have a shot of being on the 2015 ballot. They don't have the financial resources like RO does for marketing so it will be a difficult battle.
 

TheHermit

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So what happens if they both get enough signatures. They both couldn't be on the ballot could they? You can't have two different laws. I am a bit ignorant of how that would work.
 
The hermit, yes you can have competing initiatives on the ballot. The one with the popular vote would win.

Ohioans to End Prohibition (OTEP) has released it's amendment language and is now collecting it's first 1000 signatures to get it in front of the Attorney General. Their website is www.legalizeohio2016.org
 
Responsible Ohio has collected 250k signatures in 5 weeks. They need 305k+ to get on the ballot. That plan to have 700k to be sure.
 
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