oil vs smoke

MustGro said:

It’s only 5 maybe 6 grams of weed a day, lots of people use more. That’s my logic anyway.
So you used to get high with Stevie Ray Vaughn?I had ”Live Alive” on the CD player all afternoon.

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yah i was the bouncer as my college job, so i was the guy to smuggle down a bottle of Hennesy for him after hours, and whatever anyone else wanted - and they rewarded me appropriately knowing my ass was on the line. The Fabulous T-birds (his brothers band) were especially generous towards me...

but back then we were just happy to get "sinsemilla" - anything with that magic smell and no see
ds!

Zephyrs said:

Yes coconut oil absorbs more cannabinoid's that are usable/upatakable, by the liver and digestive system..

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if you can point me to the recipe you use i would appreciate it - i see so many and they are so similar but enough differences to sow confusion in a first timer. def going with the coconut over olive after your advise - half the family is italian so at first i was leaning toward a really lofty imported craft brand from family over there but not now

surfgeo said:

yah i was the bouncer as my college job, so i was the guy to smuggle down a bottle of Hennesy for him after hours, and whatever anyone else wanted - and they rewarded me appropriately knowing my ass was on the line. The Fabulous T-birds (his brothers band) were especially generous towards me...

but back then we were just happy to get "sinsemilla" - anything with that magic smell and no see
ds!



if you can point me to the recipe you use i would appreciate it - i see so many and they are so similar but enough differences to sow confusion in a first timer. def going with the coconut over olive after your advise - half the family is italian so at first i was leaning toward a really lofty imported craft brand from family over there but not now

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On post #2 I in so many words gave ya my recipe. I dont think it's an exact recipe from any one website. But more of my own recipe, from a whole bunch of other recipes, ideas. Feel free to ask for more clarification or exactness of mine. As I just kinda threw together a rambling response of my process earlier on in your thread. Ask any specific questions you have about it. And I'll help ya the best I can.

surfgeo said:

well i was never considered a lightweight by any means, 6' and well over 200, and i worked as a bouncer and bodyguard in my college days, indugling heavily with the likes of SRV before he went straight - (i was in the middle of the music scene in Austin)

10-12 a day???? you need to be a medical subject!

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Remember Steamboat 1874? I jammed there with some upcoming artists. In the '70's lol.
I did see SRV about 30 times or so at various venues and every time he played at auditorium shores!!
BTW I'm 65.

Ummmm...ok cbd makes me couch locked as fuck. Great for sleeping but I prefer full spectrum for pain. Also cdb seems to de-potentiate thc at certain concentrations.

I eat it ( cannabis and concentrates that is), dab it, burn flower and hash. Also use topical cbd.
Just not a fan of sublingual cbd. I'm Texas medical which is a joke!

@Flork , are you saying you smoke CBD flower too, or are you talking THC?I have a CBDiesel going and was wondering if it’d be as good tasting as Sour Diesel? I have lots of friends that are older now and take CBD oils for aches, arthritis, and even Chrohns. I was gonna run it through my magic butter m/c with some hemp seed oil and let them see if it worked for them, but some of them might smoke it. Does it hit you faster if you smoke it?

MustGro said:

@Flork , are you saying you smoke CBD flower too, or are you talking THC?I have a CBDiesel going and was wondering if it’d be as good tasting as Sour Diesel? I have lots of friends that are older now and take CBD oils for aches, arthritis, and even Chrohns. I was gonna run it through my magic butter m/c with some hemp seed oil and let them see if it worked for them, but some of them might smoke it. Does it hit you faster if you smoke it?

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Sorry about the confusion.
No I don't smoke CBD flower. I got on the medical program in Texas last year and all they had, at the time, was CBD oil and CBD conbined with THC oil.
When I use either of those they knock me out sleep wise.
There's a new THC only formula here now starting last month which I haven't tried.

What I'm saying is that for my really intense pain, (spinal arthritis with DDD) sublingual CBD just doesn't get it. And it couchlocks me.

It takes good old natural cannabis to ease my pain. I eat it in different forms, burn it in all the usual forms like everybody else.
To me, isolating just one canabinoid to handle pain is insufficient. Speaking for myself only, I need everything cannabis has to offer not just one isolate.

Look man, I suck at writing my thoughts down, it's why I'm not a turbo poster like so many others.

Best of luck with your pain!!

Yeah mixing the cbd with some thc makes a huge difference ime.

I've made high concentrarion skin cream from oil and tried it on my arthritic mum in law. No effect at all. Pretty much what I was expecting. The skin barrier will not permit a really large molecule such as THC or CBD to pass.

I'm going to start making oil, once I build a still and making some stronger alcohol, but for now I'm just eating decarbed bud.

Comparing edibles to smoke is kind of tricky, because regular edibles use will create tolerance fairly quickly even if you're a regular smoker. And if you stop eating edibles for a few months your tolerance will go away, even if you're still smoking. And then I did my normal dose and it was wayyyyy too much.

But now that I'm settled into nightly use, I'd say it's fairly comparable gram-for-gram. Edibles are stretched out over a longer time span though, so if you only had a tiny bit, you wouldn't even feel it. Better to do a single bong rip and get buzzed for a few minutes.

I eat a gram and a half (so maybe 1.1 - 1.7 before decarb) at 8pm every night, sleep like a rock, and then show up at work with a mild buzz that's totally gone by 9am. I guess it feels like I burned six fatties through the night.

Forage said:

I'm going to start making oil, once I build a still and making some stronger alcohol, but for now I'm just eating decarbed bud.

Comparing edibles to smoke is kind of tricky, because regular edibles use will create tolerance fairly quickly even if you're a regular smoker. And if you stop eating edibles for a few months your tolerance will go away, even if you're still smoking. And then I did my normal dose and it was wayyyyy too much.

But now that I'm settled into nightly use, I'd say it's fairly comparable gram-for-gram. Edibles are stretched out over a longer time span though, so if you only had a tiny bit, you wouldn't even feel it. Better to do a single bong rip and get buzzed for a few minutes.

I eat a gram and a half (so maybe 1.1 - 1.7 before decarb) at 8pm every night, sleep like a rock, and then show up at work with a mild buzz that's totally gone by 9am. I guess it feels like I burned six fatties through the night.

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So really dude? Seriously question? You pull decarbed bud outta the oven? Then just eats it cavemen style? And it hits ya well, medicinal wise,, I mean? Just the decarbed bud only?

Zephyrs said:

So really dude? Seriously question? You pull decarbed bud outta the oven? Then just eats it cavemen style? And it hits ya well, medicinal wise,, I mean? Just the decarbed bud only?

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It's as potent as any cannabutter/edibles method I've tried from online. I've read a few posts that claim it upsets a lot of people's stomachs to eat it like that. Also, it can be unpalatable, especially as your tolerance goes up and you eat more. Peanut butter is the best thing I've found to chew it up into. If you try to wash it down with water, you're gonna have a bad time.

Something like a brownie is way better but if you need weed to sleep it gets old having a brownie every night. Decarbed weed and peanut butter wasn't fun to begin with, but for some reason I haven't gotten tired of it like I did with brownies and then muffins and then chocolate.

It would be so nice to just pop a gummy bear at 8pm, and that's what I'm working toward. But if you have lots of bud and an iron stomach, this'll do you.

(kind of a bonus tip: most decarb guides recommend against grinding the weed. It's easier to chew it up and get it down if you do grind pre-decarb. The downside is the sugar can get a little "clumpy" and be less homogenous. Maybe a post-decarb scissor chop before you eat instead?)

A couple people have said they decarb and then pack the bud into capsules and just pop a couple pills when they need to.

A.k.a said:

A couple people have said they decarb and then pack the bud into capsules and just pop a couple pills when they need to.

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I tried it but I found it real old packing the capsules. Plus the capsules are pretty small. I got big ones, 00, but anything less in size is a lot of capsules. It’ll work though and they make holders for the capsules, or you could drill out a piece of wood to hold a bunch of caps. Just never really got into it personally. I’m more RSO or oil extraction, but I’m going to try @Zephyrs coconut oil method. I think the taste would be nice and I’ll bet it’s good in a cup of coffee. I bought a magic butter m/c and that sounds like a good first run for it.

I smoke it mostly though, and I’ll probably try out my medicinal plants that way first. Like I mentioned above I have a CBDiesel going and I’m wondering if it’ll taste as nice as the regular Sour Diesel? Also growing a CBG which is supposed to be anti-carcinogenic, but I’ll likely smoke that one too.
I’ve got it growing on the site if it interests anyone. I should add that to my signature…

A.k.a said:

A couple people have said they decarb and then pack the bud into capsules and just pop a couple pills when they need to.

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I filled up an old vitamin bottle with capsules full of decarbed weed. I've got one of those little decarb units and it's so awesome during the summer when you don't want to heat up the oven. Forget all these oils and baked goods, simple works just as well.

Last winter I open blasted some BHO into a new jacketed splatter platter. It was one of the coldest weeks of the year, and the butane wouldn't evaporate. I took the lid off, and nothing. For 3 days it sat out in the cold. When it finally evaporated, the lipids had separated and collected into marbleized chunks that I couldn't remove from the rest of the goop. So I tried to winterize it, but I guess there was too much BHO, so the alcohol just broke down the lipids into smaller chunks. I wasted a bunch of moonshine that I had been saving.

Anyway, I have like 70 grams of BHO locked in a lipidy goop that I can't separate. I kind of forgot about it until now. I should just cook off the alcohol and make edibles. I wonder if the THC has been affected from sitting in alcohol for over a year.

Zephyrs said:

So really dude? Seriously question? You pull decarbed bud outta the oven? Then just eats it cavemen style? And it hits ya well, medicinal wise,, I mean? Just the decarbed bud only?

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The easyist way if you have good bud thats not to aged is to pop a half to one gram bud in the microwave till its piping hot [about 30 sec] and roll it in a ball and coat with cool whip and down the hatch whole without chewing. The w did this for a month, about a quarter lb, before ovarian surgery, they kept her for almost a week trying to figure why that mass had only a trace of cancer buried deep in the center every doctor in the place came to see her, it works.

Yeah, I did try CBD oil because long time I had sleeping problems and anxiety (later depression). And you know, CBD particularly helped me. I started to sleep better and as a result feel better. But it didn’t fully help me because I was also “mentally dead”, so the depression didn’t go away. Some time later I started to work on my mental health (I did meditation, trainings and I had healthy nutrition, and, of course, I’d been taking a CBD oil). As the result, it took me half a year to recover from depression and live a happy life, so I definitely recommend everybody to try a CBD oil if they have sleeping problems / depression / physical pain. If anyone interested, there are 3 ways consume cannabis – orally, sublingually and topically. You should try all three ways to decide which one works best for you.