ok plant guru's......what did I do wrong?.. first grow

zeppelinrules · Sep 19, 2019

long time smoker, first time grower...real quick legal medical.... 3 seed bank seeds...fox farm ocean forest, fox farm trio nutes..as per directions, when soil is dry 1 inch down,all nute watering's, no straight water ever, 600w led.(king), room is in barn so 95 plus all summer,... all good till 5 to 6 weeks into flower...died in a little over a week?????... tried flushing for a couple days... thought nute burn...flushing didn't do anything but drown them I think....not sure I'll try again...

hotrodharley · Sep 19, 2019

Phosphorus deficiency.

jondamon · Sep 19, 2019

hotrodharley said:
Phosphorus deficiency.

Hmm I’m not so sure.

I see clawing leaves and what looks like nute burn.

OP Followed directions on the bottle of nutes he was using which is notoriously too much nutrients.

Possibly nute burn and heat stress

jondamon · Sep 19, 2019

zeppelinrules said:
real quick legal medical.... 3 seed bank seeds...fox farm ocean forest, fox farm trio nutes..as per diections... all good till 5 to 6 weeks into flower...died in a little over a week?????... tried flushing for a couple days... thought nute burn...flushing didn't do anything but drown them I think....not sure I'll try again...

How were you feeding?

At what kind of frequency were you feeding/watering?

What were your environmental conditions like?
Temps
RH
lighting
Extraction system
As much info as you can give.

zeppelinrules · Sep 19, 2019

jondamon said:
Hmm I’m not so sure.

I see clawing leaves and what looks like nute burn.

OP Followed directions on the bottle of nutes he was using which is notoriously too much nutrients.

Possibly nute burn and heat stress

well thats sorta what I was thinking... my room is in my barn.. no way to keep it cool... has been 95 plus all summer, fans and fresh going through... growing like crazy during veg... migh have also gave them a shot on veg food right before that all happened will that straight up kill them??

jondamon · Sep 19, 2019

zeppelinrules said:
well thats sorta what I was thinking... my room is in my barn.. no way to keep it cool... has been 95 plus all summer, fans and fresh going through... growing like crazy during veg... migh have also gave them a shot on veg food right before that all happened will that straight up kill them??

Using veg food instead of flowering food is not gonna kill them but during hot temperatures the plants require less feed.

You should have been feeding once and then watering with plain water twice.

Allowing pots to lighten up by around 50% before watering/feeding again.

zeppelinrules · Sep 19, 2019

jondamon said:
How were you feeding?

At what kind of frequency were you feeding/watering?

What were your environmental conditions like?
Temps
RH
lighting
Extraction system
As much info as you can give.

when the first inch is (was) dry, and what the bottles said, and 600w led

jondamon · Sep 19, 2019

zeppelinrules said:
when the first inch is (was) dry, and what the bottles said, and 600w led

And what did the bottle say?

Like I mentioned you should have only been adding nutrients once in 3 waterings.

zeppelinrules · Sep 19, 2019

hotrodharley said:
Phosphorus deficiency.

would that kill it that fast.. like 10 days..

jondamon said:
Using veg food instead of flowering food is not gonna kill them but during hot temperatures the plants require less feed.

You should have been feeding once and then watering with plain water twice.

Allowing pots to lighten up by around 50% before watering/feeding again.

ya I was going back and forth with the 2 nutes, no straight water...

jondamon · Sep 19, 2019

zeppelinrules said:
would that kill it that fast.. like 10 days..

ya I was going back and forth with the 2 nutes, no straight water...

With soil you shouldn’t feed every watering.

You should alternate you nutrient usage.

Feed water water.
Feed water water.

Especially in times of high heat you should use less nutrients as the plants uptake more water than nutrients during excessive heat.

zeppelinrules · Sep 19, 2019

jondamon said:
And what did the bottle say?

Like I mentioned you should have only been adding nutrients once in 3 waterings.

dang man... and I watched a lot of stuff on you tube.. never saw a complete crash and burn like that...

jondamon · Sep 19, 2019

zeppelinrules said:
dang man... and I watched a lot of stuff on you tube.. never saw a complete crash and burn like that...

It happens buddy. We’ve all been there.

Easier to fix a plant that hasn’t been getting enough nutrients than it is to fix one that’s been getting too much.

zeppelinrules · Sep 19, 2019

jondamon said:
With soil you shouldn’t feed every watering.

You should alternate you nutrient usage.

Feed water water.
Feed water water.

Especially in times of high heat you should use less nutrients as the plants uptake more water than nutrients during excessive heat.

now you tell me..

jondamon said:
It happens buddy. We’ve all been there.

Easier to fix a plant that hasn’t been getting enough nutrients than it is to fix one that’s been getting too much.

I'm seeing that.. just like drugs.. right you can always take more... kinda hard to take it back ha ha

SheeshM · Sep 19, 2019

Once photo shows wet media and Nitrogen burn, dark green leaves with tips curling. I'm not experienced enough to say that killed them fast. I think about severe insect or root issue when plants die fast.

FF trio at full strength is way too much in my limited experience with soil (4 grows with FF trio). I used about half of what the FF feed chart says and nutes every 2nd or 3rd watering. Still got a little tip burn in late veg and flower.

Renfro · Sep 19, 2019

I feed every watering but you require runoff, at least 20%. Are you monitoring the pH? Do you have a PPM meter? Are you using tap water?

Chip Green · Sep 19, 2019

zeppelinrules said:
.fox farm ocean forest, fox farm trio nutes..as per directions,

Toxicity.
Of our city, of our city.

PioneerValleyOG · Sep 19, 2019

too hot.

PioneerValleyOG · Sep 19, 2019

I have a friend that INSISTS you add 8-10 different nutes outside watering every day. Won’t say the brand, said he was on phone with them for an hour and a half and they said “yeah! Keep doing it,” at x dollars a month... I’m just not impressed. Anyone else think outside massive nutes every single day is over the top? Dying to see responses.

CanadianJim · Sep 19, 2019

PioneerValleyOG said:
I have a friend that INSISTS you add 8-10 different nutes outside watering every day. Won’t say the brand, said he was on phone with them for an hour and a half and they said “yeah! Keep doing it,” at x dollars a month... I’m just not impressed. Anyone else think outside massive nutes every single day is over the top? Dying to see responses.

If you mean growing outdoors in the ground, yes I agree. My first outdoors grow this year, she hasn't needed any nutes so far.
As to the OP, I've never gone over 1/2 strength on any nutes, growing in soil. And everything I've heard about FF soils says they're way too hot.

zeppelinrules · Sep 19, 2019

SheeshM said:
Once photo shows wet media and Nitrogen burn, dark green leaves with tips curling. I'm not experienced enough to say that killed them fast. I think about severe insect or root issue when plants die fast.

FF trio at full strength is way too much in my limited experience with soil (4 grows with FF trio). I used about half of what the FF feed chart says and nutes every 2nd or 3rd watering. Still got a little tip burn in late veg and flower.

damn man... well the bat stuff is organic but ya my leaves were supper dark in veg... you ever kill a grow like this... seems I should have seen it coming to a point... it was like look at all these baby buds to wtf...

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