Oldest star in the universe under 200 light years away.

Marktell2012

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Some say this supports the idea that intelligent life is very young in the universe, and that humans might be one of the first, if not the first, advanced civilization.

Why I read science journals when stoned, I will never know!
 

er0senin

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Some say this supports the idea that intelligent life is very young in the universe, and that humans might be one of the first, if not the first, advanced civilization.

Why I read science journals when stoned, I will never know!
a young universe = how many years old? just think of the possability of another advanced species somewhere in the galaxy with a civilisation 1 million years older then ours. just think were they would be! still you never know, unless they really only come here to steal cows...
 

Marktell2012

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generations of stars made enough iron and oxygen, silicon and carbon, and all the other elements from the original hydrogen and helium about 13 billion years ago to be able to form the Earth we live on and the planets the Kepler Mission is discovering today.Stable environments in galaxies that were enriched enough to have planets only became available some nine billion years ago and rocky Earth-like planets and larger super-Earths, only some 7 to 8 billion years ago. And Life had to wait until that time if not later to begin its emergence throughout the Universe. Between 7 and 9 billion years ago, enough heavy elements were available for the complex chemistry needed for life to emerge were in place along with the terrestrial planets with stable environments necessary for chemical concentration."

At least what I read, but you are right, one will never truly know.
 

er0senin

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generations of stars made enough iron and oxygen, silicon and carbon, and all the other elements from the original hydrogen and helium about 13 billion years ago to be able to form the Earth we live on and the planets the Kepler Mission is discovering today.Stable environments in galaxies that were enriched enough to have planets only became available some nine billion years ago and rocky Earth-like planets and larger super-Earths, only some 7 to 8 billion years ago. And Life had to wait until that time if not later to begin its emergence throughout the Universe. Between 7 and 9 billion years ago, enough heavy elements were available for the complex chemistry needed for life to emerge were in place along with the terrestrial planets with stable environments necessary for chemical concentration."

At least what I read, but you are right, one will never truly know.
The knowledge of where there can be life is still limmited. it wasnt that long ago that scientists found life in arsenic lol so our understanding about life and the galaxy is still to limmited from the knowledge we have gainen. we still have a long way to go is what i mean. Not that it really matters what was first just the thrill of finding life in another place than on earth :)
 

BigHulk

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If there is life out there and there is a civilization let say million years older than us we would be probably like flinstones for them hahaha , just think how we us a civilization move forward so much in last 50 years , so what's gonna happen in next 100 years or a 1000 years , i believe that there is live out there but it's just my opinion.
 

Doer

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Some say this supports the idea that intelligent life is very young in the universe, and that humans might be one of the first, if not the first, advanced civilization.

Why I read science journals when stoned, I will never know!
Please post the reference. I can't make out how that is possible.....how can it be only 200 lights away?

The oldest stars are billions older than Sol. We should not have anything that old in the local cluster.

Tell us more.
 

Doer

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a young universe = how many years old? just think of the possability of another advanced species somewhere in the galaxy with a civilisation 1 million years older then ours. just think were they would be! still you never know, unless they really only come here to steal cows...
GD Humans! Release the cloaking beasts! We must remain un-seen.
 

SnakeByte

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Do you mean oldest star still in existence? I'd imagine the oldest star is already gone...
What about the "Greys" in Orion? There have been leaks saying that other life forms have visited but have they made it back home to report our existence? Doubt it.
 

fb360

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Some say this supports the idea that intelligent life is very young in the universe, and that humans might be one of the first, if not the first, advanced civilization.

Why I read science journals when stoned, I will never know!
We see stars/"shit" up to 14 billions light years away.

To think we are the first advanced civilization in a "Universe" 15 billions years young is naive and arrogant imo.
 

Whatstrain

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If there was life on a another planet that had more easily accessible resources than we do then its not crazy to think they could be hundreds of more years advanced than we are. Even if they started at the same time we did.
 

Doer

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/oldest-star-in-universe_n_2474220.html
Which is our universe's oldest star? Astronomers now say the honor may go to HD 140283, a gassy giant that's celebrated an estimated 13.2 billion birthdays, give or take a couple hundred million, according to the January 2013 issue of Nature.

"We believe this star is the oldest known in the Universe with a well determined age,” Howard Bond, an astronomer at Pennsylvania State University, told Nature. The finding was announced January 10, at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Long Beach, Calif.
HD 140283 is fairly close to Earth, located at the (astronomical) spitting distance of just under 190 light years from our solar system.
This newest "Methuselah" star steals the title from HE 1523, another 13.2 billion-year-old star discovered in 2007. Scientists say they believe HD 140283 is older because its luminosity indicates a nearly depleted hydrogen core in addition to small amounts of some heavier elements. As Russia Today notes, trace amounts of these elements give an important clue as to when the star formed relative to the Big Bang, thereby helping estimate its age.
Given that the Big Bang occurred an estimated 13.7 billion years ago, that means HD 140283 was forming about 500 million years after the birth of the universe
 

Dr Kynes

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/oldest-star-in-universe_n_2474220.html
Which is our universe's oldest star? Astronomers now say the honor may go to HD 140283, a gassy giant that's celebrated an estimated 13.2 billion birthdays, give or take a couple hundred million, according to the January 2013 issue of Nature.

"We believe this star is the oldest known in the Universe with a well determined age,” Howard Bond, an astronomer at Pennsylvania State University, told Nature. The finding was announced January 10, at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Long Beach, Calif.
HD 140283 is fairly close to Earth, located at the (astronomical) spitting distance of just under 190 light years from our solar system.
This newest "Methuselah" star steals the title from HE 1523, another 13.2 billion-year-old star discovered in 2007. Scientists say they believe HD 140283 is older because its luminosity indicates a nearly depleted hydrogen core in addition to small amounts of some heavier elements. As Russia Today notes, trace amounts of these elements give an important clue as to when the star formed relative to the Big Bang, thereby helping estimate its age.
Given that the Big Bang occurred an estimated 13.7 billion years ago, that means HD 140283 was forming about 500 million years after the birth of the universe
are you SURE they're not talking about Abe Vigoda?
 

Dalek Supreme

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200 light years is rather close considering at the speed of light it would take 14 billion years to travel from one end of the visible universe to the other.

When people doubt that E.T.'s could be visting us I tell them about the Drake equation.The equation clearly shows not only the probability,but that intelligent life out there can be between 100-1,000,000 years ahead of us in technology.

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