One man and his bush - 1 plant SCROG in Stealth Cab - Chocolate Berry

lilindian

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ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ;6739655 said:
man i love your updates! like thats crazy how much rez hash you got lol like damn. i cant wait to see this girls final weight and size lol like this is one crazy grow man i would call it a legend, The legend of The Great Kinex Grow
What can i say ... i try to please!

Its funny i was actually SUPER disappointed with the hash yesterday, decent high, very subtle and mellow but really fuck all taste, a huge contrast to the scissor hash i got off my blue cheese after trimming. Not really sure what thats down to.... under-developed trichs in yesterdays hash compared to fully matured trichs in the blue cheese... i duno.

I think we should just leave it as "The legend", K'nex was only a part of the story of this grow, what about the height of the screen, method of training, full spectrum, giant air-pot, crazy branching and hopefully massive yield in just over 2 sq ft? Plus the strain so far is KILLER! No single element of this grow gives it legendary status, its a combination of everything that would justify such a title!

Anyway thanks man, always nice to hear such things

Good to hear about the mold. I have been meaning to try the Final Bloom as well as your post reminded me to order some. I'm interested to see the results as well, will be using myself in two weeks.
Yeh its funny, was speaking to some guy about the Bloom range, he actually said every yellow bottle in the shop is a waste of money and not to invest in em, he said he lost a whole crop to them once. Conveniently he decided to break this to me AFTER i bought the Final Bloom but watever, chances are i still would've bought it. Reasons for that are i've used Florigen and Groigen from the same range with very good results. Also i'm using Bloom's Calmag pretty much every feed at the moment to balance things up a bit and she's loving it. So whilst the whole range might not work well as a whole (which makes such little sense but nevermind), individual supplements have proven their worth, at least for me anyway. At this point in time I'm quite confident in Bloom Final

Another fine update.... Rep+
Keep posting in my thread with that avy and i'll return the favour with something equally pleasing on the eyes!
 

scotia1982

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Glad to hear the molds bein kept at bay matey it is my dreaded enemy had it twice now :-(

Ur updates are quality mate,i always sit down at ma laptop n then my mind goes blank lol. Anyways keep up the excellent work,think i'm as excited as u about yr harvest.

Peace out buddy
 

Indicator

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Have you shown Sannie this? Think it would make him proud! You should post it on opengrow for the monthly contest (free beans).
 

lilindian

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Glad to hear the molds bein kept at bay matey it is my dreaded enemy had it twice now :-(

Ur updates are quality mate,i always sit down at ma laptop n then my mind goes blank lol. Anyways keep up the excellent work,think i'm as excited as u about yr harvest.

Peace out buddy
Twice! Damn, i got it first time round and vowed to do everything in my power to not let it happen again. I've bought this Bud rot stop thing but reading the bottle today before feeding Suze i realised its a foilar spray, not something you mix in to your feeding water. Spraying my buds would be plain stupid right about now, i'd look like a complete idiot, so i think i'll return the bottle, save myself some P's.

Anyway thanks man, i'm just glad i'm not doing daily updates anymore! Once a week leaves me a lot more to write about.

P.s - this hardly is worth mentioning, but i HATE being called "Buddy", i'm just strange like that! Sorry man, i just cant stand it!

Have you shown Sannie this? Think it would make him proud! You should post it on opengrow for the monthly contest (free beans).
Funny u ask, i only yesterday signed up to OpenGrow in a quest to send either Sannie or even better Eskobar a link to this journal. Because i post all images on imageshack and not upload them through RIU, you don't have to be logged in to see this thread in all its glory. So literally all i need is to get a link to this journal posted somewhere in the "Sannies" Breeders section of OpenGrow, or "Eskobars" Breeders section...

I added Eskobar as a friend hoping i could send him a private message but alas no option.... and i can't post on the Forums yet so ... yeh.... i duno!

If anyone's got any other ways of giving em a shout then i'm all ears, otherwise i'm gona have to keep tryin opengrow. Seen the monthly contests, they're more directed at beautiful individual buds not whole plants, but we'll see! Could do with some free beans for sure.

that's one nice looking plant mate well done
Thanks, aint seen u round here in a while.... How'd ur last one turn out? I ended up sub'ing to so many journals i lost track of half of them.
 

lilindian

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So i opened my cab today half an hr before lights on to give her a good feeding (feeding every 3 days at the moment) and to my great surprise, A LOT, and i mean most here, of the hairs in the middle of the canopy have turned orange/brown and started receeding (Shout-out to Lordjin)

Now i wasn't expecting this for another week or so, but thats not the surprise. What i find interesting is A.) How quickly the hairs have changed, literally from straight white to brown/orange over night on all affected buds, and B.) The buds in the middle of the canopy i.e. the topped ones, seem to be way ahead of the HUGE outter cola's in terms of maturity. The giant buds around the edges still have beautiful straight white pistils, whilst the rest (mid canopy) have turned significantly orange.

I'm hoping, that when i open my cab tomorrow i'll see that the buds around the edge of the canopy have caught up and hairs have began changing colour.

This latest stunt by Suze has made me a little anxious, as the very earliest i can harvest her is approx 4 weeks from today, which at the moment i'm thinking is a little too far away if the pistils have already began changing colours/receeding.

Is the extra 2 weeks going to make any difference? Sure she might be a little past her peak maturity but the losses will be insignificant after a proper dry and cure.

The only other option is to harvest her next week which i'm sure will be too early. Not only that but i will have no control what so ever over the drying of this plant, and the VERY last thing i want is a super fast dry...

Anyway i'll try and get some pics for you to show you what i'm on about, camera was out of battery today.

Meanwhile, hopefully these will do!








The rest are on their way... i hope
 

lilindian

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ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ;6742069 said:
how do they look so much like beads?lol why cant you harvest her before 4 weeks?
haha they're seeds amongst the beads! It's to disguise them, just incase the envelope opens or something, i duno.

I'm away for a couple weeks over xmas, my brother's in the room next door and he aint goin anywhere so i'm leaving him in charge of Suze. He JUST about did enough last time...... but he better step his game up this time round! I need this plant looking pristine when i get back so i can take 1001 photo's of her at her absolute peak before harvest.

Last time i came home after leaving my Sour Diesel in his hands to find the plant DEAD, haha, and dry, but she was still delicious and fully matured! I literally cut her down and stuck her straight into jars to remoisten her as she already dried up waiting for my return.

Really really hoping i come back to a green plant this time, as apose to a completely yellow one.

I just had a look at Suze again and it must be the lights because all of a sudden i see more white pistils and not as many orange! Crazy..
 

lilindian

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ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ;6742261 said:
aww thats sucks bout your last grow, i hope he doesnt kill it this time!
Yeh, thats why i posted loads more pics of the Blue cheese nd hardly any of the Sour D, one looked SO much better than the other! Last grow was his warm up, his introduction if you like, this time i'm gona make it clear, no fucking about...

If he kills Suze i'll kill him..... simples
 

scotia1982

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1st of all my apologies m8 nothing worse than gettong called something u cant stand makes u almost not like a person without really knowing them.if u know what mean??

Anyways is the middle of ur canopy closer to ur main light source? If yes they may be receiving a little more lumens than towards the outsides makin them mature a little quicker. Jst an idea had a few ciders so probably making up new theories lol. Have u checked the trichs? As long as uv no rot dnt matter bout the hairs as long as ur trichs are clear.

Probs me talkin shite but take it easy mate :-D
 

lilindian

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1st of all my apologies m8 nothing worse than gettong called something u cant stand makes u almost not like a person without really knowing them.if u know what mean??

Anyways is the middle of ur canopy closer to ur main light source? If yes they may be receiving a little more lumens than towards the outsides makin them mature a little quicker. Jst an idea had a few ciders so probably making up new theories lol. Have u checked the trichs? As long as uv no rot dnt matter bout the hairs as long as ur trichs are clear.

Probs me talkin shite but take it easy mate :-D
Haha no worries man its aallll gd, how were u meant to know!?

I assumed the middle would get more lumens than the sides so allowed the sides of the canopy to grow a good 4-5 inches higher to compensate, so i doubt its that, but good suggestion. I just think its taking time for shit to reach the end of the branches as these are the bits that make up the huge side colas.

Havnt checked the trichs yet, was gona wait till i had more clear signs she was near the end before doing that but theres no harm doin it now. Expect some microscope pics tmrw!
 

BigBudzzzz

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Your doing good. Nothing like a blanket of blooming bud.:hump:

Pictures really dont do this plant justice. The size of certain cola's (now probably the size of coke cans) and the density of the canopy cannot be seen properly in the pictures no matter how much i've attempted to photograph them.

Anyway, something is better than nothing!










































  • The Spider is the first one i've ever seen in this cupboard period. If it wasn't for the sticky trap i probably would never have seen it. It looks like a bog standard house spider, 2 weeks ago it would've been in heaven with all the flies to munch.

  • Replaced all the traps for fresh ones yesterday to help me assess the Gnat problem. 2 weeks ago, after 24hrs i had hundreds more flies.... today... that number has been reduced to 3! Actually 2, one was a spider.

  • Gnat off has been taken out of my feeding schedule as i feel the problem is well under control now. If i see more flies on my traps during the course of the week i'll reintroduce it.

  • I'm also considering using a product called "Bud Rot Stop" for obvious reasons. This is what it's meant to do.

    "Bud Rot Stop is a revolutionary product that doesnt just protect against Bud Rot it destroys existing infections and restores your plants back to full health. An amazing innovation, Bud Rot Stop works by effectively forcing the Botrytis (bud rot) spores to germinate on your plants and then eliminates them as they form. This completely eradicates the spores from your plant, curing existing infections and preventing new ones from occurring. Highly recommended, especially to people growing heavy flowering plants which are more prone to rot."


    I will use this for the next week - 2 weeks only, just as a precaution. The canopy is just so damn dense....

  • The leaves that were previously yellowing and eventually stopped yellowing have now grown out over the past 2 weeks or so. For this reason you can still see a fair few leaves with yellow tips, with growth further down the leaf a real deep healthy green colour. Basically its nothing to worry about what so ever.

  • Throughout the week i've also been trying to clear up the underside of the canopy a bit by removing leaves that are getting no light/have began to degrade or for whatever reason look damaged.

    Doing this serves several purposes, most importantly it airs out my canopy a bit, and allows the middle to breath a little. It also allowed me to see the popcorn buds at the very bottom of the canopy. I've tried photographing these, but again found it extremely hard!
 

mccumcumber

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Good lookin grow man!
I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, I really just look at the pictures in these types of threads, but have you considered hanging your hps vertically? You have the reflection to support it, and it seems like your hood is crammed in that small space. It wouldn't be much energy, probably less than you are using now in fact, to cool it too.
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/149998-heaths-flooded-tube-vertical.html
Here's heath's famous vertical grow where he got over 2 lbs using 1 600 watt hps.
 

legallyflying

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I don't see how hanging a bulb vertically is going to put more light on his canopy. He doesn't have the room to do a proper vertical grow in that tent. Just simply too much space. I know that healths flooded tube grow is very very impressive, but if you have ever tried a stadium grow, you know that A. you have to have a fuck load of plants, and be, it is a very advanced from of growing with allot of limitations. I helped a buddy with a big vertical SOG. Talk about major pain in the ass. You basically flip to 12/12 after a week. We had like 150 clones to sort through and they all had to placed in the unit. then some took off, some didn't, and some were in between. Very difficult to keep things really even to maximize the benefits of the vertical grow. The some of the roots were clogging the pipes, and the water was getting hot by the end. He basically turned to me one evening and said..dude, this is a pain in the fucking ass and he sold the unit after the grow.

Just my 2 cents. I just wanted people to know (mostly the newbs) that those systems look super cool and you can get banger results... but believe me, you are going to go through a little suffering to get there.
 

mccumcumber

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Well, I just had four plants surrounding a vertical bulb and the results were fucking awesome. I see what you're saying though, I didn't know the dimensions of the cab, so it probably makes sense that a vert wouldn't work. But holy shit man, ever since reading heaths journal I was converted... I guess I'm just trying to get more people on the bandwagon.
 

lilindian

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why dont u put all of em on 12/12 to root out the males and fems and then clone it from there
Good idea! Gona have to veg a little, enough to grab clones off all of em, but yeh, as soon as i've got a clone, bang, 12/12

nice additions mate bring on the next grow cant wait...whats the plan for these
Thanks man, Urm.... 4 plant grow, 4 seperate K'nex SCROG screens sitting on top of each pot so i can move the order of the plants about. Same reverse tie method will be used, and this time i'm sticking to 1st generation branching for super chunky cola's! All air pots, fully Organic once again, same nutes! Think of this canopy, made up of 4 different strains

Good lookin grow man!
I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, I really just look at the pictures in these types of threads, but have you considered hanging your hps vertically? You have the reflection to support it, and it seems like your hood is crammed in that small space. It wouldn't be much energy, probably less than you are using now in fact, to cool it too.
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/149998-heaths-flooded-tube-vertical.html
Here's heath's famous vertical grow where he got over 2 lbs using 1 600 watt hps.
If i could reply in pictures i would...

Anyway thanks man, i think legally has covered most the things i'd say on the vertical grow idea, however....

I do infact plan to do a vertical grow, but due to the size and shape of my current cab, i'd need to knock it all down and build something a little better suited for such an idea. I've been brainstorming possible ways of making it work in my current cab, and i've thought up ways to do it, i'm talking vertical SCROGS here.

If i do one, it probably wont be next grow, but the grow after, for various reasons. If anything it gives me plenty of time to plan stuff which will hopefully make life a lot easier when it actually comes to it.

REgarding the hood, it's been long replaced with a cool tube! Much more efficient for the space i'm in. Allows me to hang the light a lot lower.

As impressive as Heath's grows have been, IF.... i can pull off the idea i've got in mind.... urgh.... I don't know how long he vegged when he got 2lbs, but mine would be longer, and i'd get a SHIT-LOAD more bud than 2lbs in a space not much bigger than what i'm working with. I really don't mind doing Epic grows in the future even though this ones been HARD WORK, as long as i've got stuff to smoke while they grow!

I don't see how hanging a bulb vertically is going to put more light on his canopy. He doesn't have the room to do a proper vertical grow in that tent. Just simply too much space. I know that healths flooded tube grow is very very impressive, but if you have ever tried a stadium grow, you know that A. you have to have a fuck load of plants, and be, it is a very advanced from of growing with allot of limitations. I helped a buddy with a big vertical SOG. Talk about major pain in the ass. You basically flip to 12/12 after a week. We had like 150 clones to sort through and they all had to placed in the unit. then some took off, some didn't, and some were in between. Very difficult to keep things really even to maximize the benefits of the vertical grow. The some of the roots were clogging the pipes, and the water was getting hot by the end. He basically turned to me one evening and said..dude, this is a pain in the fucking ass and he sold the unit after the grow.

Just my 2 cents. I just wanted people to know (mostly the newbs) that those systems look super cool and you can get banger results... but believe me, you are going to go through a little suffering to get there.
If i did a vertical grow, it would be a vertical SCROG, and i'd have maybe 4 plants, no more. Long veg times thats all. I've suffered in this grow but now i know what was essential and what i could've gotten away with. Next scrog i do in this manner should... be more controlled, and therefore less hassle.

She looks amazing dude, I want to just lay on her hahaha!
Thanks man, she's like the perfect size for a nice big fluffy pillow!
 

CampUnderDog

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I keep looking at your pics, and thinking... JESUS FRIGGIN CHRIST... they still have weeks more to go! After my move, I am definitely going to have a small cab, just for an epic grow like this... it's just... wow... i gotta go clean up man...

peace, love, and bongrips
 
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