lilindian
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You came at a good time, things are about to get interesting...
One man and his bush - 1 plant SCROG in Stealth Cab - Chocolate Berry
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C.Indica
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I'm stoked.
Can't wait for the switch.
Might I recommend leaving all the leaves under the screen to catch extra light?
Or are you pruning for air flow?
Maybe a compromise?
Your plant is a beast, hope it works great.
I think you can hit a pound easy.
OH! And another;
You should just decide NOW which branches will be removed, and remove them.
Trust me on that one, pruning in flower will dramatically affect your yield.
Can't wait for the switch.
Might I recommend leaving all the leaves under the screen to catch extra light?
Or are you pruning for air flow?
Maybe a compromise?
Your plant is a beast, hope it works great.
I think you can hit a pound easy.
OH! And another;
You should just decide NOW which branches will be removed, and remove them.
Trust me on that one, pruning in flower will dramatically affect your yield.
lilindian
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From the bat I'm gona say it started off as guess work but i've sort of managed to come up with a system. This plant has been growing without topping or FIMming or anything, just sheer LST'ing.
In a quick summary, so far Ive just tied the main stalk down from a very early age and grown the plant flat, tying down new branching as soon as they emerge.
It goes a lil something like this:
Main stalk tied down ----> creates secondary branching from nodes which grow towards light.
Sec. branching tied down -----> creates tertiary branching from nodes on sec. branching.
Tertiary branching tied down ----> creates quaternary branching from nodes on tertiary branch.
And so on and so on. Think of a tree diagram... every step u get a whole load more options, likewise in this grow, every time i grow a new branch, out of that branch will grow like another 10 tops (depending on the size of branch/where on plant it is)
This is achieved by constantly tying her down causing her auxin distribution to change, something i'll leave to someone else to explain in more depth!
It takes a lot of work, i used to spend about an hr everyday tucking leaves when she was smaller. This slowed her growth for various reasons (read journal) so i began leaving her for about 4-6 days at a time if not more, then going in and tying her down, this time without clipping her leaves off, but instead going out of my way to find a place to tuck them under the screen. Ive been doing this for the last 3 weeks or something and seen good results, growth is faster and steadier than before.
Less clipping = less stress = faster growth and more energy for growth (stored in leaves).
Every time a new branch grows to say... 2", i'll tie it down horizontally and grow it across, instead of up. Sometimes as soon as the branch is long enough to bend over i'll do just that, even if its only an inch long, all depends how i feel that day. I could easily leave such branches for another 4-7 days before beginning to train them but i want to keep everything flat.
The main stalk is a beast, and needs to be tied down early before she gets too thick and starts taking back control of the direction she grows in. She should be tied down hard, i made the mistake of not tying her down hard enough at one point and as a result now have a lump in my canopy of where the main stalk goes up and back down again. Now she's rock hard and cant be pulled down. The branches that grow out of here will have a good 2 inch head start on ones below so will need additional tying down and training when they start growing.
If you stick to the following "rules" u should be able to do what ive done.
- Any fan leaf around the size of/bigger than a can of coke (footprint), gets tucked, OR, if its covering up a node/branch site.
- Try and keep as many leaves as possible, tuck them under the screen where-ever possible, if for some reason its not possible then either tie it down somehow, or, if a branch has already started to grow out of that node, then u can clip that fan leaf off. Earlier in the grow when i used to do my weekly deforestation, often i clipped off fan leaves before branches had started growing from the node and surprise surprise, no branch ever grew from there! So wait till it starts emerging then clip off and it should continue to grow provided its got direct light. I used foilar boosters like Halo and Groigen to try and get these branches to grow up quicker.
- Tie down stuff nice and early and constantly try and expose as many nodes/branch sites to direct light (lots of tucking and tying!)
The aim of the weekly tie down and tuck:
- To get the branching of the plant trained whilst the branches are young, thin and pliable.
- To fill the screen.
- Expose new nodes, branches to light to create a dense canopy of tops. This is the reason why i began tying down branches ASAP, it gave a chance for EVEN YOUNGER branching that maybe has JUST started to emerge from a node below to receive direct light and hopefully catch up to the height of the branch i had to bend over to un shade it.
- Improve air circulation going through the plant/canopy.
When tying down branches:
- Pick a branch who's top is quite close to your screen (i.e a smallish branch), and say all branches above this top will get bent over. In the case of my plant, ive attempted to make that level the top of my screen! So literally every single branch was tied down as early as possible.
- When tying down the new node, you can just reuse the tie off that branch from the previous week, you're just moving it along. If you want a super flat plant then maybe leave these tie's on from previous weeks to prevent her secondary branches from pulling the primary branch up a little when she grows towards the light.
- You don't want to tie them down so tight it damages the branch, or is so restricted it can't move at all or grow. The tie should be strong and tight, but allow the branch to grow a little in diameter. Tying a branch too tight will restrict its growth i'm sure.
- Sometimes i get a tie and create 2 hooks on the ends, i hook one end to a K'nex piece and the other end to the branch. That way it holds the branch in position but at the same time allows plenty of room for it to grow as it pleases.
- Try and plan where and how branches will grow. This is hard, obviously u can only plan to a certain degree, but directing branching nice and early will make life a lot easier, especially if it prevents you from untying and retying stuff.
Ive included some full resolution pictures of my canopy, so if you click on the thumbnail ive labelled, it'll take you to imageshack. Click that picture again and it'll show u the full size version which unless ur looking at on a Plasma TV, will be pretty zoomed in but clear. You should hopefully be able to see exactly where my tops are, how many i have, emerging ones, ect ect. Hopefully its useful to see how ive tied mine down and directed my branching.
Illustration of new branching emerging and how related fan leaves are tucked down and under (sorry for thin circles, dont know how to make lines thicker):
Branches such as the ones above will grow out of these nodes and be ready to tie down in about a week or something, provided they have direct light and aren't shaded. I tuck so much to encourage branches like these to grow.
Example of how i tie some branches by making a double ended hook, and using this to tie down one branch to an already tied down branch.
Horizontal branching that's bending back up towards the light and who's tops will need retying at some stage
Example of another branch growing out of a horizontal branch
Full Resolution Canopy Shots (click thumbnail and then click picture on imageshack)
This technique is by no means perfect, and i'm still learning so much and trying to apply different bits of my knowledge to this grow on a daily basis. I'm sure more experienced trainers will read this and have a fair few comments, and i can't encourage this enough. I'd love to know what i'm doing wrong, what i could be doing better ect. There is lots that ive done that i'd change if i were to do another grow like this, especially now i'm a little more clued up and experienced in major training.
Anyway hope this was useful if not at least a little interesting.
In a quick summary, so far Ive just tied the main stalk down from a very early age and grown the plant flat, tying down new branching as soon as they emerge.
It goes a lil something like this:
Main stalk tied down ----> creates secondary branching from nodes which grow towards light.
Sec. branching tied down -----> creates tertiary branching from nodes on sec. branching.
Tertiary branching tied down ----> creates quaternary branching from nodes on tertiary branch.
And so on and so on. Think of a tree diagram... every step u get a whole load more options, likewise in this grow, every time i grow a new branch, out of that branch will grow like another 10 tops (depending on the size of branch/where on plant it is)
This is achieved by constantly tying her down causing her auxin distribution to change, something i'll leave to someone else to explain in more depth!
It takes a lot of work, i used to spend about an hr everyday tucking leaves when she was smaller. This slowed her growth for various reasons (read journal) so i began leaving her for about 4-6 days at a time if not more, then going in and tying her down, this time without clipping her leaves off, but instead going out of my way to find a place to tuck them under the screen. Ive been doing this for the last 3 weeks or something and seen good results, growth is faster and steadier than before.
Less clipping = less stress = faster growth and more energy for growth (stored in leaves).
Every time a new branch grows to say... 2", i'll tie it down horizontally and grow it across, instead of up. Sometimes as soon as the branch is long enough to bend over i'll do just that, even if its only an inch long, all depends how i feel that day. I could easily leave such branches for another 4-7 days before beginning to train them but i want to keep everything flat.
The main stalk is a beast, and needs to be tied down early before she gets too thick and starts taking back control of the direction she grows in. She should be tied down hard, i made the mistake of not tying her down hard enough at one point and as a result now have a lump in my canopy of where the main stalk goes up and back down again. Now she's rock hard and cant be pulled down. The branches that grow out of here will have a good 2 inch head start on ones below so will need additional tying down and training when they start growing.
If you stick to the following "rules" u should be able to do what ive done.
- Any fan leaf around the size of/bigger than a can of coke (footprint), gets tucked, OR, if its covering up a node/branch site.
- Try and keep as many leaves as possible, tuck them under the screen where-ever possible, if for some reason its not possible then either tie it down somehow, or, if a branch has already started to grow out of that node, then u can clip that fan leaf off. Earlier in the grow when i used to do my weekly deforestation, often i clipped off fan leaves before branches had started growing from the node and surprise surprise, no branch ever grew from there! So wait till it starts emerging then clip off and it should continue to grow provided its got direct light. I used foilar boosters like Halo and Groigen to try and get these branches to grow up quicker.
- Tie down stuff nice and early and constantly try and expose as many nodes/branch sites to direct light (lots of tucking and tying!)
The aim of the weekly tie down and tuck:
- To get the branching of the plant trained whilst the branches are young, thin and pliable.
- To fill the screen.
- Expose new nodes, branches to light to create a dense canopy of tops. This is the reason why i began tying down branches ASAP, it gave a chance for EVEN YOUNGER branching that maybe has JUST started to emerge from a node below to receive direct light and hopefully catch up to the height of the branch i had to bend over to un shade it.
- Improve air circulation going through the plant/canopy.
When tying down branches:
- Pick a branch who's top is quite close to your screen (i.e a smallish branch), and say all branches above this top will get bent over. In the case of my plant, ive attempted to make that level the top of my screen! So literally every single branch was tied down as early as possible.
- When tying down the new node, you can just reuse the tie off that branch from the previous week, you're just moving it along. If you want a super flat plant then maybe leave these tie's on from previous weeks to prevent her secondary branches from pulling the primary branch up a little when she grows towards the light.
- You don't want to tie them down so tight it damages the branch, or is so restricted it can't move at all or grow. The tie should be strong and tight, but allow the branch to grow a little in diameter. Tying a branch too tight will restrict its growth i'm sure.
- Sometimes i get a tie and create 2 hooks on the ends, i hook one end to a K'nex piece and the other end to the branch. That way it holds the branch in position but at the same time allows plenty of room for it to grow as it pleases.
- Try and plan where and how branches will grow. This is hard, obviously u can only plan to a certain degree, but directing branching nice and early will make life a lot easier, especially if it prevents you from untying and retying stuff.
Ive included some full resolution pictures of my canopy, so if you click on the thumbnail ive labelled, it'll take you to imageshack. Click that picture again and it'll show u the full size version which unless ur looking at on a Plasma TV, will be pretty zoomed in but clear. You should hopefully be able to see exactly where my tops are, how many i have, emerging ones, ect ect. Hopefully its useful to see how ive tied mine down and directed my branching.
Illustration of new branching emerging and how related fan leaves are tucked down and under (sorry for thin circles, dont know how to make lines thicker):
Branches such as the ones above will grow out of these nodes and be ready to tie down in about a week or something, provided they have direct light and aren't shaded. I tuck so much to encourage branches like these to grow.
Example of how i tie some branches by making a double ended hook, and using this to tie down one branch to an already tied down branch.
Horizontal branching that's bending back up towards the light and who's tops will need retying at some stage
Example of another branch growing out of a horizontal branch
Full Resolution Canopy Shots (click thumbnail and then click picture on imageshack)
This technique is by no means perfect, and i'm still learning so much and trying to apply different bits of my knowledge to this grow on a daily basis. I'm sure more experienced trainers will read this and have a fair few comments, and i can't encourage this enough. I'd love to know what i'm doing wrong, what i could be doing better ect. There is lots that ive done that i'd change if i were to do another grow like this, especially now i'm a little more clued up and experienced in major training.
Anyway hope this was useful if not at least a little interesting.
lilindian
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Thanks man, either can i, excited big time.
I dont think i'm going to leave any leaves on from the second screen down, this is mainly to do with airflow yes, however u see on the right of both my screens i have 4 squares missing? In this space in between screens 1 and 2 will be a 6" fan to circulate the air between the screens, so really and truly i could keep most these leaves if i really wanted to, i'm sure they'd get some light.... In fact, ive bought 2 125W CFL's today, could even somehow stick them in between the screens! Not too sure how id do this, i'd have to train the branching to grow around the bulbs. I duno, doubt i'd do that but its an idea. Think i'm just gona hang each CFL vertically each side of my reflector to give me a cheeky 850W total at canopy. I'm all about compromising, i guess i can try and leave a decent amount of foliage in between my screens, just for u.
Believe me i really want to pick my branches now and chop the rest, but i cant! Because i have NO idea what to expect when this plant starts stretching, and i dont want to end up with half the branches being thin weak ones when i could've used much stronger thicker branches. Thats the reason i'm holding off until maybe the middle-ish of the stretch before i butcher all the excess branches. Unless there's a solution..... I could give it my best go trying to pick my best 87 tops but i'd really really prefer waiting a while just so i can see which (currently) emerging branching will make it to canopy level in time. So many tops i'll probably end up using are barely emerging from their nodes now. This is why i want to wait, i just want to let them get to "top" status instead of "emerging top" status. Some will make it, some wont, and i must wait to find out which fall into which category.
But for what its worth i completely agree with u, help me think of a solution please! I'm thinking with all this light, as long as there's no over crowding i could hit 4-5g/branch. Then again its a sativa like plant which means buds wont be as dense, so its anyones guess.
Joos Springsteen
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An excellent explanation. Thank you very much!
lilindian
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So these are the two i've bought but i'll probably go and exchange them tomorrow for blue spectrum ones so ive got a full spectrum going on during flower.
As you can see these bulbs barely fit in my cab. Horizontally with the bulb holder on the end, it pretty much fits exactly in my cab as can be seen in the pictures. However i'm not sure whether to hang these horizontally or vertically.... I'm thinking the plants will utilise more light from the bulbs if they were horizontal, but if i do that then i cant center the bulb in the cab and one corner would be getting the majority of the light (not a huge problem, in fact would be useful to see if these lights made any difference wat so ever to the buds produced near them)
So, Vertical or Horizontal?!
I say left one horizontal, right one vertical (ducting will get in the way and i dont want to lower the pot)
As you can see these bulbs barely fit in my cab. Horizontally with the bulb holder on the end, it pretty much fits exactly in my cab as can be seen in the pictures. However i'm not sure whether to hang these horizontally or vertically.... I'm thinking the plants will utilise more light from the bulbs if they were horizontal, but if i do that then i cant center the bulb in the cab and one corner would be getting the majority of the light (not a huge problem, in fact would be useful to see if these lights made any difference wat so ever to the buds produced near them)
So, Vertical or Horizontal?!
I say left one horizontal, right one vertical (ducting will get in the way and i dont want to lower the pot)
legallyflying
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What is your main light source? Cfl?
lilindian
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Definately not! Its a 400W MH at the moment, to be a 600W HPS when i flip her. CFLs are just for the sides as they wont recieve quite as much light as the middle, thought i'd get blue spec bulbs so ive got a full spec goin on in there
legallyflying
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Never mind. I went back and saw that you have them under a 400 hps. Or at least I hope you do.
With that density I think you will find that most of the understory will die off from lack of light. No biggie really unless all the leaves are stuck between the screens then it will be a pia
I am really interested to see the bud growth. Not sure how much help they will be but I'm not a huge fan of cfl's because of their ineffeciencies in terms of lumens per watt. Plus they are going tO putt off quite a bit of heat
With that density I think you will find that most of the understory will die off from lack of light. No biggie really unless all the leaves are stuck between the screens then it will be a pia
I am really interested to see the bud growth. Not sure how much help they will be but I'm not a huge fan of cfl's because of their ineffeciencies in terms of lumens per watt. Plus they are going tO putt off quite a bit of heat
lilindian
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Yeh i agree, most will die but hopefully not all, as u said, no biggie if it does.
Ive never used CFLs so dont know what the deal is. I reckon i'll have the heat under control as both fans in the corners will be sitting over them. I hope i'm not being too greedy with my second screen by having so many holes tho... It'll either be perfect or too small.
lilindian
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If you're interested in this grow and for some stupid reason you havnt seen the journal below, hit that link!!!
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/320402-stelthys-600w-hps-project-new.html
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/320402-stelthys-600w-hps-project-new.html
C.Indica
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Excellent pruning guide, couldn't rep yet though.
Auxin Distribution;
Cannabis grows by Apical Dominance, where the highest growth tip vertically recieves the most Auxins,
vertical growth hormones, and grows the fastest and most vigorously.
Managing an even canopy effectively 'shares' the apical dominance, and insures even hormonal distribution, resulting in a mechanically AND chemically even canopy.
This is the deal with the tops, if you let those sucker branches grow another three weeks, that's three weeks of energy spent on nothing, and a whole lot of it.
By removing smaller branches now, you'll even 'add' force to the remaining, allowing them to grow even larger than they would have on your schedule of removal.
If you can just set yourself a standard and remove the junk now, you'll be impressed.
Also, you should check out my Lemon Skunk grow,
it's a much much much smaller amount of budsites,
probably around 20-40 total in just 5 colas,
but it really demonstrates what well planned isolation of branchwork/budsites can accomplish.
Auxin Distribution;
Cannabis grows by Apical Dominance, where the highest growth tip vertically recieves the most Auxins,
vertical growth hormones, and grows the fastest and most vigorously.
Managing an even canopy effectively 'shares' the apical dominance, and insures even hormonal distribution, resulting in a mechanically AND chemically even canopy.
This is the deal with the tops, if you let those sucker branches grow another three weeks, that's three weeks of energy spent on nothing, and a whole lot of it.
By removing smaller branches now, you'll even 'add' force to the remaining, allowing them to grow even larger than they would have on your schedule of removal.
If you can just set yourself a standard and remove the junk now, you'll be impressed.
Also, you should check out my Lemon Skunk grow,
it's a much much much smaller amount of budsites,
probably around 20-40 total in just 5 colas,
but it really demonstrates what well planned isolation of branchwork/budsites can accomplish.
lilindian
Well-Known Member
No worries, perfect little explanation there of auxin dist, i'll edit that into my post tmrw mornin.
You've actually just convinced me to pick branches nd snip the rest sooner rather than later, i'll get on that tmrw for sure. I've just come up an idea to help keep count of tops/branches so i should be able to prune to leave exactly 87, which i can then focus all my training on. Will cut everything with a razor blade.
Had a look at ur journal, very impressive sized buds for a cfl grow, uve made me feel a lot more confident in my purchase! Some of the pics u had remind me of my last grow. Did nearly the same as you, used string to tie branches where i wanted them, ended up with 8 main cola's on each plant, and a whoooole bunch of tops further down, check it out
Obviously this is towards the end but earlier in the grow we had a lot of similarities in training/appearance
lilindian
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Legally: if im cleaning her up tmrw for the last time then i cant stick her into flower on sunday, its gona have to be at least thursday if not next sunday, really want to avoid limitting my flowering potential in any way what so ever, its not like she'll grow that much bigger, she'll be super stressed for most that time
legallyflying
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It's not set in stone. Hack a little today, hack a little tomorrow. You can flip anytime..and trim after you flip as well. I dont think that it's really going to harm things, is anything it will
Slow the stretch down a little
I know this contradicts how I do things, but I really see the first week after flipping as a transition period. After the second week however, I rarely cut more than a few things here and there if at all. I am so aggressive with pruning because I know that when it really matters...weeks 4-6, all that shit down low is just dying...so why let it grow up in the first place.
Beginner growers always hate to trim things. After manicuring a couple pounds of popcorn bud however, you start to see things more clearly
Slow the stretch down a little
I know this contradicts how I do things, but I really see the first week after flipping as a transition period. After the second week however, I rarely cut more than a few things here and there if at all. I am so aggressive with pruning because I know that when it really matters...weeks 4-6, all that shit down low is just dying...so why let it grow up in the first place.
Beginner growers always hate to trim things. After manicuring a couple pounds of popcorn bud however, you start to see things more clearly
lilindian
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I'm gona trim today (gona have to do it just before the lights come back on as i dont have time now), and get like 90% out the way if not 100%. I also plan to trim after ive flipped, but hopefully only fan leaves, not whole branches/tops. That shouldn't make any difference.
I see the first week of going 12/12 a transitional period too, but i also believe the happier the plant going into this period, the quicker she'll go through this transition, and the happier she'll be coming out of it, meaning she'll have more energy to put into bud production. That is why i'm keen to keep butchering to a minimum once i flip (excluding removal of fan leaves).
As you said if i must do some major pruning (removing any branches) during 12/12 it'll be during the first week, after the first week of 12/12 i definitely don't want to butcher her. I agree with all you telling me i'll be wasting energy letting useless tops grow up so i say out sooner rather than later. I don't hate to trim! U can't say that considering how much plant matter ive taken off this one, i just thought the longer i wait the easier it'll be to pick branching i know will make it up easily.
I see the first week of going 12/12 a transitional period too, but i also believe the happier the plant going into this period, the quicker she'll go through this transition, and the happier she'll be coming out of it, meaning she'll have more energy to put into bud production. That is why i'm keen to keep butchering to a minimum once i flip (excluding removal of fan leaves).
As you said if i must do some major pruning (removing any branches) during 12/12 it'll be during the first week, after the first week of 12/12 i definitely don't want to butcher her. I agree with all you telling me i'll be wasting energy letting useless tops grow up so i say out sooner rather than later. I don't hate to trim! U can't say that considering how much plant matter ive taken off this one, i just thought the longer i wait the easier it'll be to pick branching i know will make it up easily.
Matchbox
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Damn... Just read from beginning to end, interesting LST technique 
looks pretty busy in there, gonna be a bit extreme when you switch.
I find that heavy pruning doesn't make that much difference tbh during, before or after switching, I chop of what I want when I want and have never had any problems or herming or anything.
I think that having the blue CFL's is great, I leave my LED's on during flower for the extra blue spectrum, as (from what I've seen in my previous grows) it really helps with trich production which is always a plus.
Good luck! looking forward to flower!
looks pretty busy in there, gonna be a bit extreme when you switch.I find that heavy pruning doesn't make that much difference tbh during, before or after switching, I chop of what I want when I want and have never had any problems or herming or anything.
I think that having the blue CFL's is great, I leave my LED's on during flower for the extra blue spectrum, as (from what I've seen in my previous grows) it really helps with trich production which is always a plus.
Good luck! looking forward to flower!
lilindian
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Right, had some super long day so never got a chance to check up on my lady, will do all the pruning tomorrow now.
I've decided to only use 1 CFL on the left side of the screen, this is due to various reasons. It will be hung horizontally with a custom cut reflector i had lying about. I'll be very interested to see if there's any difference in the bud development on each side of the screen.
Got all the stuff i need to take a few clones, and the veg cab is ready to be put to some good use, so just gotta do a quick bit of research and then i'm away.
6 degrees C outside means my cab inside is sitting at 23.7C, i say its about time for the 600watter. I'm expecting maybe a 4-5 degree increase in temp inside which should bring things straight back up to what i consider an ideal temp of 27C
I've decided to only use 1 CFL on the left side of the screen, this is due to various reasons. It will be hung horizontally with a custom cut reflector i had lying about. I'll be very interested to see if there's any difference in the bud development on each side of the screen.
Got all the stuff i need to take a few clones, and the veg cab is ready to be put to some good use, so just gotta do a quick bit of research and then i'm away.
6 degrees C outside means my cab inside is sitting at 23.7C, i say its about time for the 600watter. I'm expecting maybe a 4-5 degree increase in temp inside which should bring things straight back up to what i consider an ideal temp of 27C
lilindian
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Long read but hopefully an interesting one. Can't say i'm gona grow another plant like this any time soon, this is a complete one off. Its not toooo busy in there at the moment, i'm waiting for the canopy to grow back so ive got a whole load of tops, i just had a quick peek at her now and from previous weeks growth, i know a couple days more will make it SO much easier to pick my 87 branches, but we'll see how she's looking tomorrow, wanna get her into flower ASAP now.Damn... Just read from beginning to end, interesting LST technique
I find that heavy pruning doesn't make that much difference tbh during, before or after switching, I chop of what I want when I want and have never had any problems or herming or anything.
I think that having the blue CFL's is great, I leave my LED's on during flower for the extra blue spectrum, as (from what I've seen in my previous grows) it really helps with trich production which is always a plus.
Good luck! looking forward to flower!
Interesting u dont think pruning makes much difference, i'm sure certain strains adapt to being butchered better than others, could be wrong though. I think its more to do with what parts of the plant u cut off. Anyway thanks for ur blue CFL review, exactly what i was hoping people would post, what ur review said was just a bonus! I guess this grow will be a good test though with one side of the screen having blue + red light and the other pure red.
Lookin forward to flower too, but also sliiiiightly concerned i'm gona mess this up!
POUND TOWN
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dam dude if my shit turns out like this ima bust my load!
are these results off scrog?
I have really been wondering and searching to try and figure out how to get those type of fat ass colas
so what? do you need like special expensive enhancers or is this just the result of proper conditions? (environment, feeding, flushing, etc)
bc everyone i seen either has some decent sized buds or some god given busting beauty buds like this pic
so really, what gives?