One man and his bush - 1 plant SCROG in Stealth Cab - Chocolate Berry

machnak said:

Yes I promise!

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thats what i like to hear

looking great bro sure u got the leaf thing sorted mate...them buds are gettin bigger now mate

Dismantled the screen further to enable me to raise/lower chunks of the canopy in 1 go instead of individual branching. The right side of the canopy was raised along with the far side in order to achieve a flatter canopy all over.




I let the edges creep up a little due to light dispersion.

After raising half the plant and creating a proper area under the canopy for air circulation, i felt i could do better than a 6" fan that didn't feel like it had the strength for substantial penetration, so i decided to put my spare 5" RVK to good use and wired it up to my 2 fan speed controller. This allows me to govern more effectively the air movement under canopy.

The idea here is fresh air comes in, mixes with the air from the heater during lights off, gets sucked up the RVK and blown under the canopy. From here the air is again shifted up, through the canopy, and through the cool-tube.

The fan i was previously using for this purpose has been moved to the back right corner of my cab, and is blowing air from right to left through the canopy. This air will mix and collide with the RVK air and hopefully spread effectively throughout the plant.



After wartering her today the soil level dropped a few mm, enough for some of the roots up top to start becoming exposed. This together with the new RVK set up meant air was being blown across the soil quite hard, not a problem with wet soil but definatly a problem with dry soil. Therefor to protect the exposed roots i washed out some hydroton and gave the pot a nice top layer of the stuff. The result is a plant/setup that now looks a lil sumting like this!



There are now 7..... fans helping this plant to grow and stay as healthy and fresh as possible.

There is officially nothing else i can do to combat potential mold

Looks really good. Sweet how you can move the screen like that. a little labor intensive tho maybe? but the end result is very nice. I wouldn't worry too much about the mold, your air flow is fine, as long as your RH outside your room isn't too high I think you'll be fine.

Your plant looks awesome.
I love the pic of it side on, its like a fucking tree trunk under there! And soooo many buds

Truly an amazing grow man.

Lookin better n better every pic lilindian

QUOTE: Thanks man, i genuinly thought i was putting the airpot in the right way! But now uve made me thing about it and what u said makes a lot of sense. I've thought to myself a number of times when watering how much easier that blue bucket lip makes it, as it directs and channels water straight down instead of towards the holes where it would naturallly flow.
Anyway yeh im worried about mould slightly, low temps r easing my mind a little though, mould can only form in warm humid stale air conditions right?

hahaha Yeah i did the same thing my first time using them and then looked at a picture of one and realized thats the reason they have those 2 or 3 rows of no holes.

Cold temps do help keep mold at bay but lowering your exhaust might cause an increase in humidity

but those heaters look good!!!!

Also make sure you water earlier in the day because excess water in the air pot could bring your temps down in the root zone.

But besides that your canopy looks great!

Keep feeding them!!!

Great update man..

You've plenty of air going on there...

Do you know what the Humidty is inside and outside the grow...?

I love this grow, has opened so many options...

Someguy15 said:

Looks really good. Sweet how you can move the screen like that. a little labor intensive tho maybe? but the end result is very nice. I wouldn't worry too much about the mold, your air flow is fine, as long as your RH outside your room isn't too high I think you'll be fine.

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Not labour intensive at all! Far from it. Removing the screen was easy, i just looked from underneath to see where there were no ties and took those pieces off. Before i knew it i'd taken off a chunk and thought i should do the whole screen like this. But i've got much less access to the right side of the screen as not as much of it is hanging over the edge of the pot (so little access from underneath).

I'm just getting all the RH and temp figures in and out my room, gona place the hygrometer in different spots, see if i can find a hot spot or something.

Anyway thanks man

swishsam said:

Your plant looks awesome.
I love the pic of it side on, its like a fucking tree trunk under there! And soooo many buds

Truly an amazing grow man.

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Thanks! trunk is huge for sure. Lots of buds but if there's no light penetration will they still grow fat? Guess we're gona find out!

budbro18 said:

QUOTE: Thanks man, i genuinly thought i was putting the airpot in the right way! But now uve made me thing about it and what u said makes a lot of sense. I've thought to myself a number of times when watering how much easier that blue bucket lip makes it, as it directs and channels water straight down instead of towards the holes where it would naturallly flow.
Anyway yeh im worried about mould slightly, low temps r easing my mind a little though, mould can only form in warm humid stale air conditions right?

hahaha Yeah i did the same thing my first time using them and then looked at a picture of one and realized thats the reason they have those 2 or 3 rows of no holes.

Cold temps do help keep mold at bay but lowering your exhaust might cause an increase in humidity

but those heaters look good!!!!

Also make sure you water earlier in the day because excess water in the air pot could bring your temps down in the root zone.

But besides that your canopy looks great!

Keep feeding them!!!

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I've decided against lowering my exhaust to try and keep temps up. Today she was sitting at 20C lights off so maybe she'll be ok. This was before i changed everything around.

The heaters look good i agree, they get pretty hot when up and running, however they seem to be making such little difference to my cab! Don't have a clue why really. Too much cold fresh air counteracting the heater? i dunno.

I water either just before lights on or just after, so consider that done!

Part of me feels i'm over feeding them even though i'm currently giving them just under full dose nutes each time. The buds aren't like that big, well the central ones anyway, they've literally just formed their bud structure if you know what i mean, i'll try and get lights off pics to show u. Basically the ground work has been laid, now its just up to these foundations to grow. If everything does at a consistent rate and what not, then things should be sweet. I'm waiting for the next flowering push to have a better idea of how each branch will develop.

Jay_normous said:

Great update man..

You've plenty of air going on there...

Do you know what the Humidty is inside and outside the grow...?

I love this grow, has opened so many options...

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Working on those questions now, give me a bit.

Thanks for the compliments, nice to know ur hard work is appreciated by others!

Before takin hygrometer off and sticking it my cab, i was looking at the following readings.

42% RH in my bedroom
24.9C in my room
23.9C in my cab

I then took it off and placed it in various spots around the canopy, under the canopy , on the canopy.
















See at soil level where the RVK is blowing, much lower RH and as a result a higher temp somehow than at canopy level. Don't quite understand that second bit... i duno.

so basically i'm looking at around 50% RH at the moment, i'm under the impression i want to get it down to around 40% towards end of flowering.

Don't think mold will be a problem mate...

I think the more air you move the lower the RH... And of course heat... Reason I say this is because I've also notice the drop in RH when placing my meter in front of my osilating fan..

$0.02.

Yeh i agree, dont think the air can hold as much water when its being blown. I'm concerned about maybe parts of the canopy not getting consistent fresh air, its seriously fucking thick with buds growing down and well into the canopy. Loads of touching buds already... Only gona get squashed more as they swell. Looks like i'll get real close to achieving this block of bud.

None of my fans oscillate, think my space is too small for one really

lilindian said:

Yeh i agree, dont think the air can hold as much water when its being blown. I'm concerned about maybe parts of the canopy not getting consistent fresh air, its seriously fucking thick with buds growing down and well into the canopy. Loads of touching buds already... Only gona get squashed more as they swell. Looks like i'll get real close to achieving this block of bud.

None of my fans oscillate, think my space is too small for one really

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lol i ws thinking tht the other day. you pull it off and get just one big ass block.

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ;6646067 said:

lol i ws thinking tht the other day. you pull it off and get just one big ass block.

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She's heading that way for sure, some parts of the canopy like the near left corner.... Branches are seriously bunched up, fighting for space, growing buds touching each other everywhere. Gona have to periodically go through the whole canopy and seperate all the branching, air it out a little ect.

All depends on how much she fattens up over the next 5 weeks... And how i prune her.

Wouldn't it be cool if your Kinex screen was hollow and allowed for a air pump to be attached and blow out of small holes within the screen...???

Edit: then link it up to a CO2 bottle...!

Jay_normous said:

Wouldn't it be cool if your Kinex screen was hollow and allowed for a air pump to be attached and blow out of small holes within the screen...???

Edit: then link it up to a CO2 bottle...!

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Crazy idea! Ive thought about hooking up some air lines + pump, sort of what ud do with a co2 system but with air, but didnt think it would be worth the hassle. Might make a couple home made co2 generators though, something i can keep outside the cab and feed tubes going in so i could top it up whenever need be, and hav a valve or something down the line so i can turn it off during lighhts on so it doesnt get wasted and sucked straight out. Obviously i'll hav to turn intakes and extraction off for a couple hrs every lights off.

OR i mite wait till i got a new set up and invest in a proper co2 system...

Hollow knex isnt a realistic option but if it were it wud be the best hands down. Ur suggestion has give me some ideas to think about....

couple thoughts, physics tells us that the movement of the air has nothing to do with the capacity its capacity to hold water...its all about temperature. the warmer the air, the more water it can hold. Look at the upper level clouds, they are travelling at 70 mph and even faster and there is plenty of moisture in them. Placing your meter in the wind causes any moisture to evaporate faster off the sensor and cause an artificially low reading.

In regards to the brick oh bud.. yeah, this can be a problem with a really tight scrog. There will come a time that the sides of the buds are getting yellow and not maturing like the tops because there is not enough light. It will help allot to manage them by pushing them apart for a day or two..yes, you can use kinnex..LOL. The other thing I do is harvest some select buds a week or so early to open up some space and let the other buds mature.

Cheers.

Jay_normous said:

Wouldn't it be cool if your Kinex screen was hollow and allowed for a air pump to be attached and blow out of small holes within the screen...???

Edit: then link it up to a CO2 bottle...!

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I was thinking about doing this with my new scrog pvc screens I just made. It would be at the perfect height my only concern would be how evenly I could get it to distribute as I have two of them. Maybe a second regulator? already got 2 bottles hmmm lol

legallyflying said:

couple thoughts, physics tells us that the movement of the air has nothing to do with the capacity its capacity to hold water...its all about temperature. the warmer the air, the more water it can hold. Look at the upper level clouds, they are travelling at 70 mph and even faster and there is plenty of moisture in them. Placing your meter in the wind causes any moisture to evaporate faster off the sensor and cause an artificially low reading.

In regards to the brick oh bud.. yeah, this can be a problem with a really tight scrog. There will come a time that the sides of the buds are getting yellow and not maturing like the tops because there is not enough light. It will help allot to manage them by pushing them apart for a day or two..yes, you can use kinnex..LOL. The other thing I do is harvest some select buds a week or so early to open up some space and let the other buds mature.

Cheers.

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Those are some good thoughts, haha. Yeh ur making a hell of a lot more sense than i am.

Also harvesting certain branches early is definitely on the cards, all the smallest ones, so as u said there's more room/light penetration to bulk up or mature the rest. Just had another little rummage through the canopy, moving branches apart is gona be hard, they're so bunched!

Someguy15 said:

I was thinking about doing this with my new scrog pvc screens I just made. It would be at the perfect height my only concern would be how evenly I could get it to distribute as I have two of them. Maybe a second regulator? already got 2 bottles hmmm lol

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Maybe even have 4 bottles, 1 for each side of the screen? Or 2 like u said and maybe a third going into the middle of the canopy? I duno