One plant skinny, one plant fat?

Okay, so here for your consideration is plan #1. She looks great even if she did get a late start. No problems with her (hopefully).




And now, we have #2 who is a lot thinner, but still looking alright. Wondering why she's so skinny, though. 2 is in a 12 quart bucket and #1 is in an 18 quart. Think Madame #2 needs to be transplanted?




Now side by side for comparison.



Both under 2 24w CFLs each, and a pair of 32w Fluoros. A fan is blowing, mostly hitting the more bushy plant. Think I should transplant that girl?

Oh, and lighting is at 18/6

Did you just water them?

Yes, just watered with 3/4 strength 10-10-10 nutes. Was droopy before watering, as well, for about a week or two.

I don't know if i could be right, but when i first saw your left plant (the skinny one) It looked to me like it was getting too much Nitrogen... Signs of this is the really really dark green... Which you can see the major difference with your other plant.
BTW what lights are you using?

As I said earlier, " Both under 2 24w CFLs each, and a pair of 32w Fluoros."

dear god let those weeping willows dry out a little...

did you add anything to your soil before planting? extra perlite, vermiculite?

Youre going to need more light... What i seem to understand is you need at least 100W actual Watts of light for each plant...

Check your drainage,, and checkph levels,,, but you might need a bigger pot,, roots might be spinning round the bottom of that bucket.........................

Hey, plant #2 seems to be getting too much water. I hope you have holes in the bottom of that bucket so the soil can drain. Also make sure you let the soil dry out before watering again. You dont have to replant unless you want the plant to get bigger. Remember the plant will grow even more once you put it into flowering stage, so depending on the time you are at in veg. the plant will grow a few more inches.

Update! So it's been what, 5-6 days now? Haven't watered them, and plant #1 has picked up it's leaves. Plant #2 however, is still like it is, with minor nutrient burn. Should I flush? What could me causing it to go straight up like this?

So I finally watered after seeing signs of some very thirsty plants. Drying them out did not help with plant #1, so I'm curious as to why the shit it's still droopy and only growing up, not out. Help please?

Sorry for the blurriness. Impaired camerawork.

You think that you may need to upsize your pot,,, the roots might be spinning around the bottom of that one...........................................................

Just transplanted into a larger pot. How fucking big of a pot am I going to need for these things? They shouldn't be root-binding at this short.

DrPhilGood said:

So I finally watered after seeing signs of some very thirsty plants. Drying them out did not help with plant #1, so I'm curious as to why the shit it's still droopy and only growing up, not out. Help please?

Sorry for the blurriness. Impaired camerawork.

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Hey, plant #1 might be deficient on something that it needs like (Mg), (Zinc), etc... These nutrients might be getting locked out by what ever your using for Ph-up. These secondary nutrients are usually found in Lime or Limestone. Get you some Horticulture Hydrated Lime or Dolominic Limestone. Preferably Dolominic Limestone (No less than 80% thru 100 mesh). Which ever you choose, both will do the job. I suggest using when the next time you water(NOT FEED), make sure the plant needs watering.

Add one Teaspoon of which ever you choose to one gallon of water(tap water), mix it up and apply to the soil. You might want to keep stirring while your watering because the Lime or Limestome with settle at the bottom, seconds after stirring.
If your plant problem is because of any of those secondary nutrients thats not being uptaken through the roots, then your plant will begin to show life after a few hours or over night. This will mean that your (Ph) is fucked up somewhere or your Ph-up is locking these nutrients up. After finding out if this is your problem you might want to go with an organic Ph-up, like Earth Juice. A good investment is buying a digital Ph tester for your water and keep your Ph around 6.5 to 7.0.

Also go to GrowFAQ and read up on some of those plant problems and check out some of the pics that may resemble any of your problems.