Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz, Cha Ching

stelthy

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The unmarked one, (small) is a plant disinfectant, to reduce and repair stress, light burn and nuit burn it smells like mild tcp lol, but in no way effects flavor or melecular construction of the plants, it like a cure and it works :) - Stelthy
 

couchlock907

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The unmarked one, (small) is a plant disinfectant, to reduce and repair stress, light burn and nuit burn it smells like mild tcp lol, but in no way effects flavor or melecular construction of the plants, it like a cure and it works :) - you put all that stuff into your weed? need a new strain if you need all that to grow !REALLy:bigjoint:?
 

stelthy

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The unmarked one, (small) is a plant disinfectant, to reduce and repair stress, light burn and nuit burn it smells like mild tcp lol, but in no way effects flavor or melecular construction of the plants, it like a cure and it works :) - you put all that stuff into your weed? need a new strain if you need all that to grow !REALLy:bigjoint:?
I know its excessive, and i dont really need it all but i like to think that in doing so i will reap the best possible rewards my setup has to offer, i like to control every aspect of my grow so i can individually tweek height, density colour, weight, smell, texture, resin, thc and smell, I am saving for a thermostat and small heater and a co2 reader/meter then i have everything i need :) i hope to breed but really need to do my homework so's to speak, cos not a clue yet :) :leaf:STELTHY:leaf:
 
Open Sesame is used right as the flower pistles are starting to show. then you hit em with teh beastie bloom to get your huge nuggs and the cha ching to have layers of trichomes on trichomes on top of trichomes. lol i swear by this stack for flower. the cha ching shows progress over night the bud become even more frosty after each feeding. im getting excited just thinkin about it.
 

mr.swishas&herb

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make sure that you use the grow big in the same weeks as beastie bloomz, If you look at the bottle, you will se that in the N-P-K..... no nitrogen..

gotta use it!!!! I found this out at week 6 of flowering when ALL my leaves went yellow in like 2 freakin days!!!! (it also says it on the feeding chart to use the big bloom in weeks 6-7)
use big bloom every feeding...you mean grow big?
 

cadeneli

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I have used the ff solubles for 6 grows now and i love them. Open sesamd doesnt make flowering start any faster but it does make all the bud sites really come to life and open up. The beastie does what it claims to do. The cha ching is the one im most impressed with. It really packs on the trichomes. I use the open sesame and beastie bloom at 1/2 strength (1/8 tsp) and the cha ching full strength (1/4tsp). The plants could take full strength but im a little scared of salt build up. I havent had ph problems.
 

Raptor Seven

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Everything they have told you about the fox farm products is pretty much dead on. They do work, they work well... sometimes a little to well, less is more for sure. I have used the liquid nutes as well as the water soluables for 2 or 3 years now. I love them, however.... my one warning to your current set up is watch out for your soil, the first time i ever used fox farm I also used ocean forest and I burned everything (this is because ocean forest contains enough fertalizers that you really do not need to feed in veg, just keep hitting it with ph'ed water.) Since I have switched to a much more base level soil, and I'll always use fox farm in the dirt.
I can attest to this. All plants react slightly differently to nutrient concentrations. I’ve found a dosage sweet spot with FF nutes, I feed every other day, 1/2 the concentration FF schedule suggests, never just water. If I feed every other day, that’s an average of 3.5 feedings per week at half dose. FF schedule says 2 full dose feedings per week max (again, all plants react slightly differently to nutrients and levels on concentration, so I always start slow and keep an eye out for issues). Cut at half strength per feeding, my plants get a steady stream of nutrients at a level that won’t burn them. Foliar feed once a week to close the nutrient gap and they’re happy.
 

Joflo8

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I can attest to this. All plants react slightly differently to nutrient concentrations. I’ve found a dosage sweet spot with FF nutes, I feed every other day, 1/2 the concentration FF schedule suggests, never just water. If I feed every other day, that’s an average of 3.5 feedings per week at half dose. FF schedule says 2 full dose feedings per week max (again, all plants react slightly differently to nutrients and levels on concentration, so I always start slow and keep an eye out for issues). Cut at half strength per feeding, my plants get a steady stream of nutrients at a level that won’t burn them. Foliar feed once a week to close the nutrient gap and they’re happy.
What do you foliar feed with?
 

mtnman2016

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I use all 3 along with Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom and Grow Big according to schedule 100% strength in Happy Frog and have been very pleased with the results. I don't mess with the micro nutes they have though, waste of money IMO. Hell, I don't even know if Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz, Cha Ching are worth it either but after 3 years using them they don't hurt anything. However I did notice some gnat issues after starting to use Cha Ching for some reason twice. Coincidence? Don't know.

Current grow is using the same nutes but switched to Roots Organic for a few girls and Ocean Forest for the rest just to see any differences. Last tie I used OF it was too hot for the little ones. Used it this time during transplant.
 

mtnman2016

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So do you use ferts during flowering only, or can you use during vegging? Also, I read that you're supposed to stop using any supplements and use strict water 4 weeks prior to harvesting, or you'll smoke your lungs out?
You generally use nutes for the full cycle, veg through flower unless you use a supersoil. Nutes are not necessary until 2-4 weeks after germinating then another 2 or so after you transplant, even longer a lot of times. As soon as you see some yellowing, they are ready. I don't wait for that though and just start 50% nutes 3 weeks in then go 100% from there on out.

The 4 week strict water is not right growing in soil. It's basically to flush out some of the nutrients. 2 weeks is very typical at which time you will already be seeing yellowing leaves. It is called flush but is much more important in hydro grows and coco I would assume, I only do soil
 
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