Opinions needed on seemingly AWESOME PRICE for a HPS unit!!

JTSBossMan

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Read up at Yield-O-Rama. A 1000w light will cover more area and penetrate much deeper into the canopy than a 600w. This is especially important if you intend to grow 'em tall. I grow mine short and bushy, as the larger and wider the canopy the more efficient. Its simple, the light only penetrates so far and the farther from the bulb and the more foliage in the way, the less intense of light your lower buds recieve. A big, flat canopy takes up more square footage and thus can take in more light.
 

panhead

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Yes, I have considered that, but from what I've read the company is excellent on replacing bulbs with better ones.
The company (HTG) is excellent AND they give excellent service except through emails,be forewarned that if you have a problem you need to break down & call them,i did & got instant results.

I have thousands of dollars worth of htg gear & i have just as much more expensive brand gear (Sunlight supply) & i got just as good of service from both,blaming any company for a broken bulb that is delievered from ups or fedex is an uneducated slander,fedex & ups kill & destroy thousands of packages daily,especially light bulbs.

When comparing ballast design from htg & sunlight i prefer the htg design,its design alows heat to dissapate very quickly away from critical components within the ballast,with any electronics heat is the number 1 killer.

On a side note digital ballasts may not be the route you want to take,the savings are not huge at all,were talking small percentages here,no massive savings will be realized on your monthly bill with one or 2 lights,there is also the lifespan factor,a standard magnetic ballast will last 20 years,digital ballasts are well known for short lifespans & have a much higher failure/break down rate over magnetic ballasts.

As for listening to people bad mouth htg just look at their ebay feedback,over 5,000 people have spoken & ALL ARE BUYERS OF HTG gear,before listening to anybody on any forum praise or bad mouth any supplier ask them if their comments are based on ownership or mere repetition of what others have said.

Ive seen some valid problems associated with htg but there are no different that what any other manufacturer will experience only htg is the #1 internet grow shop so they stand out more.
 

nickfury510

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OB Cron Kenobi

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I am down with HTG and think you getting a 1000w would be absurd! A 600 will do you fine... if you need to get light to the lower branches consider getting CFL's at ground level- its a cheap alt and actually gets more light to the bottom branches than hoping that a 1000w will penetrate to the bottom!
 

Joker52

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can anyone tell me how to set these things up? i just need a video explaining set-ups for hps and mh bulbs. Would really help me out.
 

OB Cron Kenobi

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Its pretty easy, you can hang the ballast (the big box on a cord seperate from the reflector- part the bulb goes in) or you can set the ballast on the ground- I prefer to hang it- less vibrations and noise- and i would imagine it cools the ballast better. But the only important part is when screwing the bulbs in, just as you would headlights on your car- do not touch the glass with your body- use a few sheets of kleenex to seperate your hands from the glass- finger oils left on the bulb can cause the bulb to explode when you turn it on- that is really bad for you and the bulb and surrounding area i would imagine. So just plug it in to your timer (which i see wasnt listed but is certainly needed) and then hang the ballast and lights and ur golden- its not tricky i assure you.
 

Joker52

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hps is for veg, and the other is for flower? also, you just get a 600W ballast for 1 600W bulb?

p.s. why is there a conversion bulb? how does that work?
 

OB Cron Kenobi

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no, hps is for flower, mh is for veg- there are ppl who use either or for the complete growth- but the pro's in large part do not... and if you are only going to get one type or another get hps and use that straight thru- it will work but not as well as both.

A conversion bulb will allow you to use either or in a ballast made for one type... A HPS conversion bulb will work in a MH ballast, and vice-versa. They are cheaper than buying seperate ballast, but now some ballast will work for both- HTG sells those- thats what i have, a MH/HPS ballast
 

Joker52

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does the ballast have the bulb holder attached to it? then you just screw in and plug in ballase? btw, thanks for the help will be reppin.
 

OB Cron Kenobi

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no- they are seperated by a 10 foot cord so that the ballast can be away from the light. You wouldnt want both near eachother- they both put out heat. I hang my ballast outside the grow room and leave the light inside. If you look at the pics of my setup you can see the ballast outside the room and the cord- and then from the overhead you can see the light hanging over the plant. The ballast is loud tho- it has a pretty audible hum that goes when the light is on. I have my setup in the basement and i can hear it through the vents in one of my rooms upstairs... so its audible... and thats a 400 watter.... which could cover your set up- if you do like me and add cfls to the bottom...
 

OB Cron Kenobi

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First pic in the upper left hand corner the hanging white box is the ballast- the pic has it half cut off... you can see the cord going into the grow room- thats the 10 foot cord i was talking bout... Then in the second pic you just see the HTG light hanging over the plants... not as necessary a pic- but thats the set up- quite easy...

just no finger oils!!! thats key!
 

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Joker52

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nice plants, well i'm on cfl's right now. SInce, i don't have a big space and i don't think i can have an audible light, i'll have to wait till i get my own space to grow more. a 400w would be how far away from the plant? also, how many plants do you have under that one light?
 

OB Cron Kenobi

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lol all these questions could be answered by reading my journal... but my 400 watt is 18 inches off the tallest plant at all times- that that is higher than it needs to be- but at this point i am not conserned about height and they are not stretching (getting lanky) so theres no worry. 18 inches is the avg height to keep it above the tips... and some ppl push it less- and if you have a glass lensed light you can let it get so close it nearly touches- from what i have heard. And i currently have 11 plants under it- But this is only one week into flowering. And once I have all the males screened out i will only have 6-7 in there- of which one or two will be re-vegged and used for cloning... thats the goal anyway... But if you cant have an audible light you really should worry about getting a HID cause the ballast's make noise- I am sure you could cover it- but its certainly there.
 
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