Opinions on Digital Ballasts

I am in the planning stage of a new hydro setup and have been considering switching to a digital ballast for some time. I am looking at Digilux and NextGen. My only issue is I am not confident enough in the manufacturers review to pay the money for everything necessary, I need to hear it from people who have actually used digital ballasts and know the pro's and con's. If anyone has any experience on this or would like to put their two cents in, please do. Thnx!:leaf:
 

Ronjohn7779

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I like my lumatek. It has no moving parts and is nearly totally silent. Its also one of the few ballasts that can run a 1000w bulb at 750w and 600w (I wouldn't run a 1000w bulb at any wattage other than 1000ws). They also can run 750w and 600w bulbs if you don't want to use a 1000wer. Another feature is that lumateks can run in super lumen mode. Supposedly you get an extra 10-15% of light. I imagine this comes at the sake of your bulb's life.
 

R. Duke

Member
I like my quantums alot. the adjustable power feature is great for things like dimming your lights for recently transplanted clones and heat waves. and run 600w bulbs, much less heat problems. you can lower 600w bulbs closer to the actual canapy. i have used 1000w in the past and didnt care for them.
 

hornedfrog2000

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My lumatek is pretty much silent. You can't hear anything from it unless you stick your ear on it. It also doesn't get nearly as hot as the magnetic ballasts. I hate the way mags sound. It's like you have a nuculear reactor in your house or something. If anyone hears that they're going to wonder wtf that sound is.
 

HghFlyrJD1

Active Member
No one even mentioned the actual brand he was looking at..I ordered a 1000watt NextGen digital ballast that will arrive today.I read a lot on them and they are said to be great.look around people have great reviews.Small, light, air cooled,universal plug inputs and quiet.etc
 

Ken3531

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I had a digital ballast and it made one of the tv's in my house all fuzzy when it was on. took a few weeks to pinpoint what the problem was and turns out it was the digital ballast. The manufacturer claimed it was "normal" due to radio frequencies and i should move my garden. Sent it back for a refund and went magnetic. Bit bigger and makes a little noise but at least that one tv works now lol.
 

hornedfrog2000

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I had a digital ballast and it made one of the tv's in my house all fuzzy when it was on. took a few weeks to pinpoint what the problem was and turns out it was the digital ballast. The manufacturer claimed it was "normal" due to radio frequencies and i should move my garden. Sent it back for a refund and went magnetic. Bit bigger and makes a little noise but at least that one tv works now lol.
huh. What kind of TV was it? My plasma has never done anything like that to me.
 

Ken3531

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Well i have 2 plasma 1080p tvs and 2 regular tube tvs in my house. The digital ballast was hooked up downstairs right next to one of my tube tv's and that tv was fine. The tube tv upstairs was the one that was all jacked up from it. Kinda werid though, i changed outlets all over my house and still couldnt fix it. Must be that particular tv. either way im happy with my cropmaster magnetic.
 
I have read about the interference digital ballasts may cause with TV's and radios, but I'm not worried about it. HghFlyrJD1, if you get a chance give us a review of your new ballast. Thanks to everyone for their input!!
 

dadio161

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I use the 400W/600W NEXTGEN and I am very happy with the results.
You can check out my signature for the results.
 

purrrrple

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OK, heres the deal on dig ballasts.

Pros: Much lighter (weigh less) & burn MUCH cooler. They are a little more efficient. They do draw slightly less power and produce slightly more lumens compared to magnetics. Some of the newer ones offer a "dimmer" option (which is not particularly useful IMO). When you dim the ballast IT DOES NOT DRAW LESS POWER. Running a 1000w dimmable ballast on the 500w setting STILL DRAWS 1000 WATTS.

Cons: MUCH more expensive. They do cause RF (radio frequency) interference in some cases. Using multiple (10+) ballasts have caused peoples power meters & climate controllers to act up. If you use the "superlumens" switch on Lumateks they burn out your bulbs insanely fast. Not all digital ballasts are generator ready (do your homework). NextGen's are not UL listed (if i'm not mistaken) so if they cause a fire your insurance WILL NOT COVER IT.

Being said, I have extensive knowledge of all major brands of digital ballasts on the market today. Quantum, Lumatek, GGL, Galaxy, NextGen, Phantom, BadAss, & a few others. I would say HANDS DOWN Quantums are the absolute best ballast on the market. They offer a 3 yr+2yr prorated warranty. They come with both 120v & 240v cords & are dimmable. Phantoms are also very nice ballasts, rigorously tested & HIGH quality. BadAss is made by Advanced Nutrients and offers some rediculous like 10 or 20 yr warranty but I would advise to wait because they are BRAND new. GGL's are solid but are known to melt where the lampcord plugs into the ballast. Galaxy is good, have never heard of any problems with them. NextGen is OK but overpriced and not UL listed. Lumatek is probably the most popular and also the oldest but NOTORIOUS for problems & blows up Hortilux bulbs regularly. Hortilux just released their new "e-ballast compatible" bulbs so we'll see. I've heard mixed reviews on teh Digilux bulbs. Some guys swear by them and some people say they are totally BS. I know for a FACT they are not putting out anywhere near the lumens they are claiming. I've read the studies and have to say I am less than impressed. Go with Hortilux if you got the money and UltraSun or Plantmax if you don't.

I got my quantums for $150 (600w) & $250 (1000w). PM me for the info.

Also, if you want to see if your ballasts are sending off RFI do the following. Take a radio and turn it on AM. Find a clear station and walk slowly towards your ballast. If/When you hear any distortion/interference/crackling you know you've got a problem.
 

Ronjohn7779

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Cons: MUCH more expensive. They do cause RF (radio frequency) interference in some cases. Using multiple (10+) ballasts have caused peoples power meters & climate controllers to act up. If you use the "superlumens" switch on Lumateks they burn out your bulbs insanely fast. Not all digital ballasts are generator ready (do your homework). NextGen's are not UL listed (if i'm not mistaken) so if they cause a fire your insurance WILL NOT COVER IT.
Growing pot alone voids most insurance policies. You may even get your home foreclosed on for voiding the mortgage agreement (most have anti-drug and crime clauses). Any sort of illegal activity will generally void most contracts. Obviously things workout differently in states with medical MJ laws. Even so you need to carefully read your policy agreements. I'm sure most insurance providers view growing as a fire hazard they'd love to not cover.
 

jkmovies

Active Member
OK, heres the deal on dig ballasts.

Pros: Much lighter (weigh less) & burn MUCH cooler. They are a little more efficient. They do draw slightly less power and produce slightly more lumens compared to magnetics. Some of the newer ones offer a "dimmer" option (which is not particularly useful IMO). When you dim the ballast IT DOES NOT DRAW LESS POWER. Running a 1000w dimmable ballast on the 500w setting STILL DRAWS 1000 WATTS.

Cons: MUCH more expensive. They do cause RF (radio frequency) interference in some cases. Using multiple (10+) ballasts have caused peoples power meters & climate controllers to act up. If you use the "superlumens" switch on Lumateks they burn out your bulbs insanely fast. Not all digital ballasts are generator ready (do your homework). NextGen's are not UL listed (if i'm not mistaken) so if they cause a fire your insurance WILL NOT COVER IT.

Being said, I have extensive knowledge of all major brands of digital ballasts on the market today. Quantum, Lumatek, GGL, Galaxy, NextGen, Phantom, BadAss, & a few others. I would say HANDS DOWN Quantums are the absolute best ballast on the market. They offer a 3 yr+2yr prorated warranty. They come with both 120v & 240v cords & are dimmable. Phantoms are also very nice ballasts, rigorously tested & HIGH quality. BadAss is made by Advanced Nutrients and offers some rediculous like 10 or 20 yr warranty but I would advise to wait because they are BRAND new. GGL's are solid but are known to melt where the lampcord plugs into the ballast. Galaxy is good, have never heard of any problems with them. NextGen is OK but overpriced and not UL listed. Lumatek is probably the most popular and also the oldest but NOTORIOUS for problems & blows up Hortilux bulbs regularly. Hortilux just released their new "e-ballast compatible" bulbs so we'll see. I've heard mixed reviews on teh Digilux bulbs. Some guys swear by them and some people say they are totally BS. I know for a FACT they are not putting out anywhere near the lumens they are claiming. I've read the studies and have to say I am less than impressed. Go with Hortilux if you got the money and UltraSun or Plantmax if you don't.

I got my quantums for $150 (600w) & $250 (1000w). PM me for the info.

Also, if you want to see if your ballasts are sending off RFI do the following. Take a radio and turn it on AM. Find a clear station and walk slowly towards your ballast. If/When you hear any distortion/interference/crackling you know you've got a problem.
I've heard that Lumatek had an RF problem at first, but solved it years ago before their purple colored ballasts were even released. The 600W Lumatek has the Hortilux bulb problem. All the other sizes work great with them. This I know personally about the 400W working with the Hortilux bulb.

Question: How do you KNOW the Digilux's do not put out anywhere near the lumens they say? I would like to know because I currently have one, and am thinking about a backup bulb. It seems plenty brighter than my 400, but what do my eyes know?

You almost sound like a commercial and then say to PM for where to buy a Quantum. Thanks if you're helping, but my flag went up a little on that one. No disrespect intended. We don't really know each other after all.

Anyway, I hope my Lumatek 400 and 600 aren't as bad as you say for obvious reasons, I have them. My 400 has been flawless for months, not one hiccup, so I either got a good one, or it's waiting to do something evil any day now.:-o

Also, if you google Lumatek, you get a few posts like yours, almost verbatim. but not very many, and they mostly go back a while. You get more posts recommending a Lumatek.

Kind of weird they have all these problems, yet no one is really complaining. They must be selling quite a few of these because they are at respected stores and internet sites.

I don't have a lot of first hand information about Lumatek, and am not claiming to. I have used the 400 without flaw for months, and a 600 that appears to be operating within normal parameters.

P.S. I don't see Digital being more expensive either. Maybe we're shopping at different locations though.
 

ledgrowing

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lumatek is the shit i have 4 600watt dimmable ballast all working flawless for 3 years straight no problem i also have a 600 watt next gen it is nice to but i like my lumiteks better no reason really both are great i just dig the purple ballast better
 

purrrrple

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Growing pot alone voids most insurance policies. You may even get your home foreclosed on for voiding the mortgage agreement (most have anti-drug and crime clauses). Any sort of illegal activity will generally void most contracts. Obviously things workout differently in states with medical MJ laws. Even so you need to carefully read your policy agreements. I'm sure most insurance providers view growing as a fire hazard they'd love to not cover.
First of all, not everyone with a growlight is growing pot. The manufacturers have jumped through hoops to get FCC/UL tested & approved for the sole purposes of having insurance companies honor policies and to meet state/local codes. Unless otherwise stated in your lease/insurance policy you should be covered in the event of a fire IF your equipment is up to code. That is why I am an advocate of Quantum ballasts & Powerbox Inc. controllers.
 

Lt. Dan

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He said UL, united labrotories. The people that test for fire ratings.
Yeah, I knew that..... ETL and UL are both OHSA approved NRTL(Nationally Recognized Test Lab) and authorized to test, evaluate, and list products to safety standards.
An ETL label with a US and C on it means it meets the standards of United States and Canada. IIRC

Anyway, it was a brain teaser statement meant to make people wounder what an ETL listing was............. How did I do? :)
 
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