Opinions welcome and much needed!

Alienwidow said:

Ok, your watering hydrogen peroxide into your root zone and claiming its giving the plant much needed oxygen? You care to elaborate on this idea a little more. Ill pull the popcorn out and grab a chair. Maybe when your done well all water peroxide into our plants.....but i sure doubt it

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide
Quote from article " Hydrogen peroxide is the simplest peroxide (a compound with an oxygen-oxygen single bond) and finds use as a strong oxidizer, bleaching agent and disinfectant." AND QUOTE |
Horticulture V
Some horticulturalists and users of hydroponics advocate the use of weak hydrogen peroxide solution in watering solutions. Its spontaneous decomposition releases oxygen that enhances a plant's root development and helps to treat root rot (cellular root death due to lack of oxygen) and a variety of other pests.
Eat my shorts.

You can literally see your soil foaming up as the H202 releases that extra Oxygen Molecule. It's amazing for heavy soils as it fluffs it right up (Literally Foams if their is a lot of organic activity!), sterilizes (mostly) and oxygenates the isht out of the root environment Tell me how this is not Beneficial? Wheres your science? I have mine and it's right in front of you.

greenhorngreenthumb said:

You can literally see your soil foaming up as the H202 releases that extra Oxygen Molecule. It's amazing for heavy soils as it fluffs it right up (Literally Foams if their is a lot of organic activity!), sterilizes (mostly) and oxygenates the isht out of the root environment Tell me how this is not Beneficial? Wheres your science? I have mine and it's right in front of you.

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Well smart guy, i work really hard to build my soil web, fungus, bactieria, all live in soil. Theres many different types of mycroriza that i introduce into my soil to make the root system function at top condition. Ill give you one guess what peroxide.......howd you say you were adding it, oh you said (strong), in parenthesis like that. Ill give you one guess what peroxide at those concentrations does to your soil web. But since your already doing it and dont know ill tell you. It destroys it. Now it is true low doses actually encourage myco development but when your seeing bubbles forming all over the top of your soil and your using it to kill gnats, your also killing the soil web and damaging your plant. Just kill gnats with what everyone else uses genius, mosquito bits or crumbles.
Eat your own shorts lol
This grow sponsered by weed be gone

I would rather use carbonated water

greenhorngreenthumb said:

First of all before you ask about the sand, Im growing in normal potting soil and i noticed a fungus gnat (non-flyer thank goodness) so i recently watered H202 +normal ph'd water solution to hopefully kill any larvae and covered the surface of the pot with an inch of sand as the teenaged gnats cannot crawl through it (apparently)
Lights are 2 x 90W ufo LED's (over the auto's) and about 140W of CFL 2 6500k and 4 2700k over my fem's.
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Does everything look okay here ?

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sand is the worst idea for pots u are gunna run into some serious issues my friend

Alienwidow said:

Well smart guy, i work really hard to build my soil web, fungus, bactieria, all live in soil. Theres many different types of mycroriza that i introduce into my soil to make the root system function at top condition. Ill give you one guess what peroxide.......howd you say you were adding it, oh you said (strong), in parenthesis like that. Ill give you one guess what peroxide at those concentrations does to your soil web. But since your already doing it and dont know ill tell you. It destroys it. Now it is true low doses actually encourage myco development but when your seeing bubbles forming all over the top of your soil and your using it to kill gnats, your also killing the soil web and damaging your plant. Just kill gnats with what everyone else uses genius, mosquito bits or crumbles.
Eat your own shorts lol
This grow sponsered by weed be gone

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I know it destroys your soil lol as i said it sterilizes, anyway my plants seem to be perky and vigorous as ever so i see no harm done visibly. As for what you said about the soil web i completely agree and will build up a completely organic soil and nutrient profiled specifically for my strains in flowering. my purps like way higher Potassium in flower then any other strain i've grown, they say if you won't need to feed as the soil will provide everything done correctly... i still feed a little anyway doesnt seem to hurt
BTW are those products organic?

rob333 said:

sand is the worst idea for pots u are gunna run into some serious issues my friend

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Rebuilding my soil for when they get transplanted. i'm cheaping out here as im on a tight budget atm so clean sand was all i had to keep em away from my soil

greenhorngreenthumb said:

Rebuilding my soil for when they get transplanted. i'm cheaping out here as im on a tight budget atm so clean sand was all i had to keep em away from my soil

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let your pots dry out mate easy fix for gnates

i heard about a new way to kill pests in soil: microwaves! (the link is about snails, but it supposedly should work on gnats too)

Jerry rig the microwave tube from an old microwave oven and aim it at the pot - supposed to be lethal to insects and stuff, and if done right not so bad for the plants...

greenhorngreenthumb said:

I know it destroys your soil lol as i said it sterilizes, anyway my plants seem to be perky and vigorous as ever so i see no harm done visibly. As for what you said about the soil web i completely agree and will build up a completely organic soil and nutrient profiled specifically for my strains in flowering. my purps like way higher Potassium in flower then any other strain i've grown, they say if you won't need to feed as the soil will provide everything done correctly... i still feed a little anyway doesnt seem to hurt
BTW are those products organic?

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I have no idea if they are organicly grown and harvested but they are very important with organic growing. If thats what your interested in doing then id seriously suggest reading up on two products thatsupply these to your grow. Great white, and Mycos, theres others out there as well but these are the more populat ones. Ive also used biotone with good success. Theres even scientific studies that have been done on the effects of h2o2 and mycroriza. If you dont overdo it it can actually help myco production.

Thanks for the replies guys much appreciated! Definitely going to get me some Great white for my flower soil mix... I really want to keep these guys out of my flower room..can anybody recommend a peat moss substitute to add ?? was having drainage problems last flowering run

Budzbuddha said:

I would rather use carbonated water

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That is not a wise comment. The CO2 in carbonated water would only help kill drown your roots faster.

Carbonated water can and IS used for plants.

The theory is that plants watered with carbonated water will grow faster than those watered with plain tap water ...... due to the minerals and macronutrients in the carbonated water. Carbonated water contains phosphorous, potassium, sulfur and sodium, and other elements which are nutrients that plants need for healthy growth and vigor. A test performed by the University of Colorado at Boulder showed that plants watered with carbonated water grew faster and developed a darker green color. The resulting data was well documented.


This is a basic outline for application.

Step 1
Allow carbonated water to reach room temperature before using it to water plants. Plants can be shocked by using water at extreme temperature--either too cold or too hot.

Step 2
Gently pour carbonated water into the plant's pot, holding the opening of the bottle close to the surface of the soil to avoid splashing (and creating a mess). Add enough water to thoroughly dampen the soil--generally, until water begins to drain from the bottom of the planter. Allow some runoff.

Step 3

Water plants once a week with carbonated water to receive the maximum benefit. If plants become dry in the middle of the week, use plain water. No more than once per week will perk plants up and provide growth.