ndangerspecimen101
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I think you have us all mesmerized so we'll kindly stay put like the most trained dog
ORAL 4-meo-pcp trip reports
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Puffer Fish
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Well ... I am going through tons of ramblings and gibrish on this stuff and it looks quite interesting ... as a new toy to say the least.I think you have us all mesmerized so we'll kindly stay put like the most trained dog
The data points to something bwn
K and PCP
I have extensive experience with both of these and can't imagine a bridge .... hence my interest.
I am not sure about neurotoxicity on this one.
source post ...43 ...
I do not buy this data ... especially ... plugged data ..... but higher dosages might be toxic.
If I would have a bag of this stuff I would just bump it slowly ....
But that is just me.
CreepyStevie69
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You chart confuses me a little puffer. I appreciate the effort but I think you may have been look at 3-meo-pcp. I read it's about ten times more potent that 4-meo. Which would explain your dosages compared with my quote above and a statement i remember reading. (mighta been here or bl not sure) but the guy plugged about 175 he stated
Puffer Fish
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Brother this is not a chart for you to use ... please notice I posted ... that I do not buy this data ... one bit.
I am simply posting quoted exerpts from bluelight for us to look at .... so we can contemplate.
The figures in the chart are way to small to be active orally as per.
These are safe baselines if anything ... taking into consideration the absence of information on the neurotoxicity of this stuff.
I am not sure if you are looking at the same pages of info on this stuff ... first test subjects are posting results with within 150 mg oral (post 504) from
BLUELIGHT HERE ...
I am thinking this will work around 250 for peak ...
I am examining the effects of this compound on receptors and comparing data with same for K
Interesting
I am not a Plugger myself ... so when this comes my way .... I will insufflate the compound.
CreepyStevie69
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I am thinking 150-250 is a good oral dose as well. Depending experience. Haddaway does have a thread where he speaks of taking it up to 500. He was down with the plugging but I'm not sure if he plugged or swallowed the 500mg.
I'll find the thread.
But he did say it was the worst experience he's ever had drug wise
I'll find the thread.
But he did say it was the worst experience he's ever had drug wise
CreepyStevie69
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https://www.rollitup.org/hallucinatory-substances/320840-4meopcp.html
Post 42 is where his reporting starts
Edit: he took 500mg and then redosed an extra 2-3 hundred 6-7 hours later.
All this info makes me lean towards 175mg oral for me. What you think? And what about for a 105lb girl. Neither have a dissociative tolerance
Post 42 is where his reporting starts
Edit: he took 500mg and then redosed an extra 2-3 hundred 6-7 hours later.
All this info makes me lean towards 175mg oral for me. What you think? And what about for a 105lb girl. Neither have a dissociative tolerance
Puffer Fish
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I don't think you should dose with her at the same time.
You should have a sitter ... who knows dissocs and can talk you down.
These toys are not a group thing ... once you go under and she goes under
it's not like molly .... this is a disconnect type a trip .... so test on yourself
first ... then once you are comfortable ... give her half of what you had ... and watch.
CreepyStevie69
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I will take your advise. I enjoy tripping alone anyway lol
I'm starting to get a little more comfortable with this compound. I put all my attention on this thread and forgot about the 6-apb one. I need to get comfortable with that one now.
And I will post a report here of the 4meo here once the test is done
I'm starting to get a little more comfortable with this compound. I put all my attention on this thread and forgot about the 6-apb one. I need to get comfortable with that one now.
And I will post a report here of the 4meo here once the test is done
I would really be careful with these dosage suggestions.
Don't know where they came from but, seems like it had to be cut big time if someone actually survived those amounts. Which I'm glad to see it cut as ours was pure and let me tell ya 50-80 mgs was about right but if you went even 50 mgs too much for your size etc., things could get real scary.
Have been familiar (very) with pcp for about 35 years give or take, since we were kids. We never even tried to get to what you refer to as the K hole, and when we did, on occasion, that was by accidental overdosing.
Which is what gave pcp the bad rap in the first place.
No instructions whatsoever. You got any where from 60 to 100 doses from 1 gram, of that, and I can testify that the 4-meo I saw was damn close to that same strength if not more powerful since it is a little/ alot?, different, than pcp.
When things were right we had fun doing anything , standing in the snow, driving around for days, you name it and not a problem. I'd almost rather OD on pcp again coma included than do too big of a dose of 4-meo again.
Then again when the right dose of 4-meo used it was almost the identical blast of enjoying everything there was to enjoy, providing you got used to walking , which was a little harder than with the old pcp, and that's cutting it close to the line I'll never cross again, with it.
May be just great for K , but this ain't K.
The right dose and it's fine but you cross that line looking for the "K-hole" and good luck. It's not like ketamine. Ketamine is milder and more tranquil, and it's easy to relax into the inner self, a hell of a lot more than with 4-meo is.
No offense but sounds like so many are trying to trip off the stuff and that just ain't what it's best quality is, unless you wanna be scared shitless for a very long while, maybe go to the ER or flush everything in your house, etc., etc. The paranoia factor can be overwhelming to say the least and I've done too much of everything on the planet almost, at one time or another.
And to snort it?? If it's pure , good luck. Have you seen what this stuff does to a razor blade? It is really a harsh chem, that made my nose bleed off and on and hurt like hell for 3 days. Only way we did after that was in a gelcap, which looks like nothing when the cap isn't even 1/4 filled. I may sound like a worrier but I'm so serious.
These specific dissociatives are quite an unpleasant experience for some people, and 4-meo can be just that , as the dose is not as forgiving as plain old pcp was.
Supposedly much less neuro toxicity, but getting past larger dose than you wanted is hard to deal with too.
I suggest k for those who wanna do the k hole thing, and even then don't be alone, and really don't be alone with this stuff. I;d have someone there who was not even doing any on my first time if I ever actually did it and wasn't fabricating this entire report.
Sorry to put any negative vibe on it, but I;d rather have fun than be scared to death or worse for several hours.
And don't let anyone tell you that orally is not ass good or affordable. If it's like that , your stuff is cut by half at least I'd venture to guess. Not as hard as dosing out phenazepam but damn close, when it comes to "that line".
To each their own. I understand the desire to explore, I couldn't resist way too many things, but seeing how good every new chem that comes along can make me go into some deep trip, no thanks.
Some things aren't the best for that depth of a trip to everyone. Being "all old" isn't the reason I say this either, you'll see, for certain if you get pure uncut, I guarantee it. Hope it's good , if that's your goal.
Peace!
Don't know where they came from but, seems like it had to be cut big time if someone actually survived those amounts. Which I'm glad to see it cut as ours was pure and let me tell ya 50-80 mgs was about right but if you went even 50 mgs too much for your size etc., things could get real scary.
Have been familiar (very) with pcp for about 35 years give or take, since we were kids. We never even tried to get to what you refer to as the K hole, and when we did, on occasion, that was by accidental overdosing.
Which is what gave pcp the bad rap in the first place.
No instructions whatsoever. You got any where from 60 to 100 doses from 1 gram, of that, and I can testify that the 4-meo I saw was damn close to that same strength if not more powerful since it is a little/ alot?, different, than pcp.
When things were right we had fun doing anything , standing in the snow, driving around for days, you name it and not a problem. I'd almost rather OD on pcp again coma included than do too big of a dose of 4-meo again.
Then again when the right dose of 4-meo used it was almost the identical blast of enjoying everything there was to enjoy, providing you got used to walking , which was a little harder than with the old pcp, and that's cutting it close to the line I'll never cross again, with it.
May be just great for K , but this ain't K.
The right dose and it's fine but you cross that line looking for the "K-hole" and good luck. It's not like ketamine. Ketamine is milder and more tranquil, and it's easy to relax into the inner self, a hell of a lot more than with 4-meo is.
No offense but sounds like so many are trying to trip off the stuff and that just ain't what it's best quality is, unless you wanna be scared shitless for a very long while, maybe go to the ER or flush everything in your house, etc., etc. The paranoia factor can be overwhelming to say the least and I've done too much of everything on the planet almost, at one time or another.
And to snort it?? If it's pure , good luck. Have you seen what this stuff does to a razor blade? It is really a harsh chem, that made my nose bleed off and on and hurt like hell for 3 days. Only way we did after that was in a gelcap, which looks like nothing when the cap isn't even 1/4 filled. I may sound like a worrier but I'm so serious.
These specific dissociatives are quite an unpleasant experience for some people, and 4-meo can be just that , as the dose is not as forgiving as plain old pcp was.
Supposedly much less neuro toxicity, but getting past larger dose than you wanted is hard to deal with too.
I suggest k for those who wanna do the k hole thing, and even then don't be alone, and really don't be alone with this stuff. I;d have someone there who was not even doing any on my first time if I ever actually did it and wasn't fabricating this entire report.
Sorry to put any negative vibe on it, but I;d rather have fun than be scared to death or worse for several hours.
And don't let anyone tell you that orally is not ass good or affordable. If it's like that , your stuff is cut by half at least I'd venture to guess. Not as hard as dosing out phenazepam but damn close, when it comes to "that line".
To each their own. I understand the desire to explore, I couldn't resist way too many things, but seeing how good every new chem that comes along can make me go into some deep trip, no thanks.
Some things aren't the best for that depth of a trip to everyone. Being "all old" isn't the reason I say this either, you'll see, for certain if you get pure uncut, I guarantee it. Hope it's good , if that's your goal.
Peace!
Ketamine is the BEST dissasociative but I have been hearing some real horror storys of health problems
due to K, I'm not one to easily fall for health scares but this one is real
severe Kidney problems and bladder problems are popping up in k abusers
all over the place. 20 year old kids having to wear diapers cuz they constantly piss themselves
I have a theory that this is somehow linked to newer batches of K, I haven't hit a hole in like 5 years
and back then I swear the K was cleaner causing no where near as many health problems of today's K
then again it has virtually disappeared over the past 5 years damn ttokkyo
due to K, I'm not one to easily fall for health scares but this one is real
severe Kidney problems and bladder problems are popping up in k abusers
all over the place. 20 year old kids having to wear diapers cuz they constantly piss themselves
I have a theory that this is somehow linked to newer batches of K, I haven't hit a hole in like 5 years
and back then I swear the K was cleaner causing no where near as many health problems of today's K
then again it has virtually disappeared over the past 5 years damn ttokkyo
CreepyStevie69
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Wow wofen +rep for the lengthy and informative response.
Sounds like you really don't like the 4-meo. Could you write a trip report maybe?
Sounds like you really don't like the 4-meo. Could you write a trip report maybe?
Ultimate Wrongun
Member
Ketamine is bad... Gotta love it though Has caused me and A few friends irriversible organ damage (Bladder, Kidney, ect.) 
Keep safe
Has caused me and A few friends irriversible organ damage (Bladder, Kidney, ect.) Keep safe
`Dave
Active Member
Ketamine is bad... Gotta love it though
Keep safe
yeah its bad but you gotta love it
great drug
CreepyStevie69
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Rumor is it's arrived. I'd have to check. I'm not gonna get my hopes up though. So a study should be up soon. Hoefully.
CreepyStevie69
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Along with the 6-apb
ndangerspecimen101
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Can't wait for the juicy report... I hope it lives up to the standards of ketamine.
And of course ketamine is bad when abusing daily.... stop treating ketamine like a crackhead habit
CreepyStevie69
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Lol I have never experienced k. But maybe based off the report you can tell me. It probably won't be for a week or so given the holidays are here and all. Sorry for the long wait. Sit tight now.