Oregon on a budget 2016. #s for Pennies

Amshif87 · Jun 23, 2016

These things aren't outdoors but they are directly tied so I thought I'd throw them up. A while back I had a dr funk hermit I in late flower. It was in the back of the room and It took me a few days to notice. Had a timer issue followed by leaving the door between veg and flower a couple days later but the only one affected was the funk. The point of that long winded story was I found a few seeds in the black lime that was next to her and have 5 of the 8 going right now in a dome with a bunch of cuts. 48 hrs later all 5 are above ground. And I snapped a couple quick pics of some of the Devils cut kush I took down last night. Because why not.

Amshif87 · Jun 23, 2016

lordoflords said:
Ahh so many cool oregon threads on growing, this is so exciting!! I just started my plants I will be back

Right on man. I love checking out what other locals are up to, you got a thread?

Amshif87 · Jun 23, 2016

And lastly the big girls. Soaking up the sun. Loving every second of the day. I'm looking forward to the rest of this season, it's shaping up to be pretty all right. Last pic is the plants in #3s getting up potted and put into the light dep tomorrow. That's about it for now. I'll throw up some pics any time there is an interesting development. Stay safe and happy farming

UncleBuck · Jun 23, 2016

fuck that sod. rip it up and get it out of there. it'll cause PM when oregon's awesome summer gives way to its wet, wet winter.

Amshif87 · Jun 23, 2016

Thats been the plan. Trying to score some thing to throw down. I can get my 69' ranger bed filled with hazelnut shells for $70 and it might be what I end up doing. You think throwing weed barrier down would be effective? Or is removing it a necessity?

UncleBuck said:
fuck that sod. rip it up and get it out of there. it'll cause PM when oregon's awesome summer gives way to its wet, wet winter.

UncleBuck · Jun 23, 2016

Amshif87 said:
Thats been the plan. Trying to score some thing to throw down. I can get my 69' ranger bed filled with hazelnut shells for $70 and it might be what I end up doing. You think throwing weed barrier down would be effective? Or is removing it a necessity?

when i was in oregon, it was nearly impossible to actually kill the grass. the only thing that ever really worked was to scalp it all by hand and shovel, then rototill the roots back into the ground several times. you can scalp it bare and it will still grow back without a tilling.

if you can't get your hands on a tiller, you can always just flip the soil with a shovel. it's a lot of work, but it will work.

WV: Jetson · Jun 23, 2016

You're saying growing in a lawn like Amshif87 is doing will cause pm issues in the fall? @UncleBuck

Amshif87 · Jun 23, 2016

UncleBuck said:
when i was in oregon, it was nearly impossible to actually kill the grass. the only thing that ever really worked was to scalp it all by hand and shovel, then rototill the roots back into the ground several times. you can scalp it bare and it will still grow back without a tilling.

if you can't get your hands on a tiller, you can always just flip the soil with a shovel. it's a lot of work, but it will work.

I've got a tiller available to me but I'm worried that il won't be able to get it in between the plants the holes are 30" diameter and they are dug 5' on center. I've cut plenty of sod before and will be able to bang it out in an afternoon with a shovel and a little help. I've also got a portion of the yard on the side of the house that I am trying to build the top soil up so I will just take it over there and flip it over. I'm hoping that weed barrier will be enough to keep it down afterwards. I feel like hazelnut shells or wood chops might be too much trouble. And since I'm figuring it out with 3'-4' plants in the holes already I'm just hoping it will do.

Humanrob · Jun 23, 2016

WV: Jetson said:
You're saying growing in a lawn like Amshif87 is doing will cause pm issues in the fall? @UncleBuck

This is news to me too, although I can see how it could. This is my first time growing out in the lawn, so I'm interested in more info on that too.

Fall in Oregon has its challenges, keeping rain out but not allowing moisture to build in any temporary enclosure. You can leave the girls fully out in the open and hope for the best (which worked really well for us last year but is a total crap shoot), you can go full enclosed greenhouse... and then there is everything in between. I've seen people do a number of different types of temporary fall covers, with varying degrees of success.

I'm hoping to put up a hoop house mid-September and leave the ends open, except during hard rain or high winds. I'm thinking that if I make it a few feet longer on the ends, the extensions will help keep vertical rain out. I haven't really worked out the design entirely... still thinking about designs for the ends of a temporary structure that opens and closes easily and can handle 40+mph winds.

But I can see how when its closed up, lawn could trap a lot of moisture under the plastic.

@Amshif87 -- what are your plans for the fall?

CA MTN MAN · Jun 23, 2016

Yea uncle buck is a complete idiot ... You never want to take growing advice from someone who doesn't even grow weed. Dont worry about the sod just keep it mowed, no need to get on your hands and knees and scrape it all out haha

UncleBuck · Jun 23, 2016

WV: Jetson said:
You're saying growing in a lawn like Amshif87 is doing will cause pm issues in the fall? @UncleBuck

yes, most likely.

Amshif87 said:
I've got a tiller available to me but I'm worried that il won't be able to get it in between the plants the holes are 30" diameter and they are dug 5' on center. I've cut plenty of sod before and will be able to bang it out in an afternoon with a shovel and a little help. I've also got a portion of the yard on the side of the house that I am trying to build the top soil up so I will just take it over there and flip it over. I'm hoping that weed barrier will be enough to keep it down afterwards. I feel like hazelnut shells or wood chops might be too much trouble. And since I'm figuring it out with 3'-4' plants in the holes already I'm just hoping it will do.

i share that same concern about the tiller.

yep, scalping it and covering it with weed barrier and hazelnut shells should do fine to get you through.

UncleBuck · Jun 23, 2016

CA MTN MAN said:
Yea uncle buck is a complete idiot ... You never want to take growing advice from someone who doesn't even grow weed. Dont worry about the sod just keep it mowed, no need to get on your hands and knees and scrape it all out haha

you scrape sod with a shovel.

werm11 · Jun 23, 2016

Amshif87 said:
Made some medicated organic vegan fluten free salted coconut caramels. They have been going great with all the cherries from the parents orchard. View attachment 3714971 View attachment 3714972 View attachment 3714973 View attachment 3714974 View attachment 3714976 View attachment 3714977

hey! very cool thread. im digging the clean look of your backyard spot. hey im very interested in those little vegan coconut treats you made. care to share the recipe? or perhaps point me in the direction of where to find it? thanks brother!

Amshif87 · Jun 24, 2016

werm11 said:
hey! very cool thread. im digging the clean look of your backyard spot. hey im very interested in those little vegan coconut treats you made. care to share the recipe? or perhaps point me in the direction of where to find it? thanks brother!

Thank you very much.
http://www.forkandbeans.com/2013/09/04/vegan-caramels-corn-syrup-free/

That is the caramel recipe I used. I replaced the vegan butter with coconut oil prepared a la Badkitty and subbed out the maple for coconut flower syrup. I'll tell my wife you said the back yard looked clean. Maybe I'll get tomorrow afternoon off.

Amshif87 · Jun 24, 2016

The original plan for the spot was a pvc hoop house going up in mid July so I can pull tarp and get that batch out before everyone's full term plants are done. Right over the holes were going 45 gal smart pots for a late season harvest. Now I recently came up on a little bit of cash and am looking at this:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Green-Garden-House-Walk-In-Greenhouse-33x13-Total-Weight-185-Pounds-/111932937234?nav=SEARCH

The 12x7 I was gifted was made by the same company delta canopies and it's great. I know I'll only get a year out of the covering but I've got a half of a 100x20 roll of 6 mil for next year. I was planning a 12 x 30 hoop house so this 13 x33 would be perfect. We'll see. I've got a couple weeks to decide.

Humanrob said:
This is news to me too, although I can see how it could. This is my first time growing out in the lawn, so I'm interested in more info on that too.

Fall in Oregon has its challenges, keeping rain out but not allowing moisture to build in any temporary enclosure. You can leave the girls fully out in the open and hope for the best (which worked really well for us last year but is a total crap shoot), you can go full enclosed greenhouse... and then there is everything in between. I've seen people do a number of different types of temporary fall covers, with varying degrees of success.

I'm hoping to put up a hoop house mid-September and leave the ends open, except during hard rain or high winds. I'm thinking that if I make it a few feet longer on the ends, the extensions will help keep vertical rain out. I haven't really worked out the design entirely... still thinking about designs for the ends of a temporary structure that opens and closes easily and can handle 40+mph winds.

But I can see how when its closed up, lawn could trap a lot of moisture under the plastic.

@Amshif87 -- what are your plans for the fall?

WV: Jetson · Jun 24, 2016

UncleBuck said:
fuck that sod. rip it up and get it out of there. it'll cause PM when Oregon's awesome summer gives way to its wet, wet winter.

I'm sorry, this makes no sense to me. You're implying that because Amshif has planted in his lawn, he has a higher risk of PM. Why? How is removing all his sod going to change this risk? PM doesn't grow on lawn grass. Amshif's harvest will be done by the time winter rolls around. The concern of high humidity in the fall is from dew. Temperature driven, not lawn. Putting up a structure will help with the dew issue, but you're than going to need to manage for the moisture from the ground evaporation. Ripping sod out isn't going to stop that evaporation.

Amshif87 · Jun 24, 2016

WV: Jetson said:
I'm sorry, this makes no sense to me. You're implying that because Amshif has planted in his lawn, he has a higher risk of PM. Why? How is removing all his sod going to change this risk? PM doesn't grow on lawn grass. Amshif's harvest will be done by the time winter rolls around. The concern of high humidity in the fall is from dew. Temperature driven, not lawn. Putting up a structure will help with the dew issue, but you're than going to need to manage for the moisture from the ground evaporation. Ripping sod out isn't going to stop that evaporation.

I think the concern may be from the grass retaining more water than bare ground would? Regardless I have been planning on getting rid of the sod. It's a bitch to mow with the low hanging branches after we get a hoop house or the likes up it will go

Amshif87 · Jun 24, 2016

We harvested some rhubarb and lemon balm today, admired the wildlife in the garden and trimmed some pineapple kush. And that was before, between and after a lunch dinner split. God bless Oregon. Stay safe and happy farming.

Amshif87 · Jul 7, 2016

Been a while, been busy round here. Got the greenhouse up yesterday, I ended up using some 3 tab roofing I had lying around to do the flooring. Worked pretty good. Easy to sweep. Today I too dressed everything with some 5-5-5 and glacial rock dust mixed with some compost. Fresh mulch on everything and I'm heading back out to up pot some teens that have been needing it for a couple days. I'll throw some more pictures up later. Happy farming friends.

slow drawl · Jul 7, 2016

Amshif87 said:
Been a while, been busy round here. Got the greenhouse up yesterday, I ended up using some 3 tab roofing I had lying around to do the flooring. Worked pretty good. Easy to sweep. Today I too dressed everything with some 5-5-5 and glacial rock dust mixed with some compost. Fresh mulch on everything and I'm heading back out to up pot some teens that have been needing it for a couple days. I'll throw some more pictures up later. Happy farming friends. View attachment 3726788 View attachment 3726789 View attachment 3726791

Nice man... everything is looking great. Your kid is cute, looks like he has lot of room to roam there. Cool GH what are the dimensions?

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