Organic Cloning solution, 1 question

Backstory to my question:
After hours of searching I can find but one OMRI listed cloning gel and that's Humboldt's. It's also like $32 for 1oz. After searching for an alternative, I found out about using new Weeping Willow or Dogwood stalks chopped/puree'd into a gallon of water and soaked/brewed for 24 hrs. Dip the fresh clones into the mixture, and water them with the rest.

I have a plant called the Wandering Jew. It hangs outside in our backyard on our porch-swing. It is a member of the Tradescantia Fluminesnsis family and what it is really good at is self-propagation. The stalks that fall to the ground firmly re-root themselves in about 2 weeks and the recommended method of propagating them is to cut the stalk and let it sit in a cup of water. Well after letting my daughter do so, this is what we got. The first is after 2 days and the second is after 2 weeks.

This all sounds like the same methods of propagating the Willow Tree... Can anybody tell where I'm going with this? My question: Can I use the Wandering Jew for it's root stimulating hormones like I can the Weeping Willow? Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated and thanks in advance!

Forgive me, I have never heard of this before but it's very interesting.

So my question to you is, if you cut a willow stalk and put it in water will it root as fast as wandering jew will?

If so, I'd say go for it. If not then there may something "extra" that the ground up willow offers that is not found in wandering jew.

Cannabis does not require rooting hormone to root. Just take a cutting and give it water, it'll root without hormones.

vh13 said:

Cannabis does not require rooting hormone to root. Just take a cutting and give it water, it'll root without hormones.

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True, But I don't have 2 weeks to wait for it to start rooting on it's own.

I am going to have to get a stalk of Willow and try out your suggestion VapeKush.

If you search around for organic/home made rooting hormone willow trees steeped in water for 24 hours are all i've come across. Just looked into it a couple weeks ago.

orchiid.wild said:

If you search around for organic/home made rooting hormone willow trees steeped in water for 24 hours are all i've come across. Just looked into it a couple weeks ago.

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Keep smoking man....

So, I tried the wandering jew with a couple of cherokee tomato cuttings and left them be outside on my back porch... I think the weather was a factor in their demise. We got hit with almost 100*F weather this summer and even with watering my personal vegetable garden everyday, it suffered some setbacks as well. I will be trying this theory again in a month or so on some extra cuttings from our MJ garden. Until then, we broke down and got some Humboldt Roots... We are counting on too much to go experimenting at this point, but I will be testing this to try and give us organic growers another option...

Rooting hormones are organic compounds in the first place. The only reason rooting gels can't get the OMRI cert slapped on is because it's 100% more cost effective to synthesize IBA and NAA, rather than to go out, find a natural source and harvest sustainably and pay for processing. Unless you're trying to get some kind of organic certification, using willow water is cool to experiment with, but it isn't nearly as effective as some of the gels/powders/stocks out there. I'm all about being organic too, but when it comes to rooting canna, all you need is a glass of water... I use Rootech in my EZ clone and swear by it.

Although they're not completely necessary, rooting hormones definitely speed up the process and increase root mass.

try a dissolved asprin in water

LD25Delta9 said:

So, I tried the wandering jew with a couple of cherokee tomato cuttings and left them be outside on my back porch... I think the weather was a factor in their demise. We got hit with almost 100*F weather this summer and even with watering my personal vegetable garden everyday, it suffered some setbacks as well. I will be trying this theory again in a month or so on some extra cuttings from our MJ garden. Until then, we broke down and got some Humboldt Roots... We are counting on too much to go experimenting at this point, but I will be testing this to try and give us organic growers another option...

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I took tomato cuttings that my buddy chopped off the lower end of his plants and stuck them in the dirt, watered them, and they rooted and grew. It was definitely the weather that got the best of your cuttings. If you try the wandering jew in a more controlled environment let us know the results.

Broom said:

Rooting hormones are organic compounds in the first place. The only reason rooting gels can't get the OMRI cert slapped on is because it's 100% more cost effective to synthesize IBA and NAA, rather than to go out, find a natural source and harvest sustainably and pay for processing. Unless you're trying to get some kind of organic certification, using willow water is cool to experiment with, but it isn't nearly as effective as some of the gels/powders/stocks out there. I'm all about being organic too, but when it comes to rooting canna, all you need is a glass of water... I use Rootech in my EZ clone and swear by it.

Although they're not completely necessary, rooting hormones definitely speed up the process and increase root mass.

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I have heard of using willow for rooting hormone but have heard of using a dogwood. Do you have any info on this.

Yes, Dogwood has been found to have a comparable amount of hormones to that of the Willow.

nog said:

try a dissolved asprin in water

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My progrower buddy said a dissolved aspirin in the water will turn a female to a male.. ever heard of this??

Also, any thoughts on using aloe from a aloe plant for a rooting compound? I havent tried it yet but have been considering trying ti for S&G.

unohu69 said:

My progrower buddy said a dissolved aspirin in the water will turn a female to a male.. ever heard of this??

Also, any thoughts on using aloe from a aloe plant for a rooting compound? I havent tried it yet but have been considering trying ti for S&G.

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i would like to no how dat goes

unohu69 said:

My progrower buddy said a dissolved aspirin in the water will turn a female to a male.. ever heard of this??

Also, any thoughts on using aloe from a aloe plant for a rooting compound? I havent tried it yet but have been considering trying ti for S&G.

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Never heard of the sex change but I am interested to see if your aloe theory proves correct. Post up some results if you ever do test it out...

I might just take a couple cuttings for shits n giggles, there seems to be enough interest to warrant a test.....
I dont have much to do the next couple a days anyways, waitn on the rain to pass....