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Chanceman1405

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so im wanting to try organic. I dont use nutes until flower unless needed and thsts just cal mag typically. Im by no means a great grower, but thars just what I use. I was using advanced and dont think i really like em. I want to try compost for the flower phase. Im finding info on them and all that, but I thibk hearing from people that actually use them would be better. So if anyone has a recipe and is willing to share that would be awesome. I use fox farm ocean forest if thst matters. Also please if possible leave a reference to where mt ppms should be at with the tea and the run off if possible. Thank you in advance.
 
madvillian420

madvillian420

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Do you already have plants growing? Going organic just for flowering isnt ideal, you are trying to create a diverse and ever growing universe of life in your soil that should ideally be thriving long before you switch to flowering. Also, growing organic takes a bit more than simply adding compost to ocean forest, you dont have to do as much as me, but should do a bit more than that ( i mix a handful of amendments into my soil as well as some commercial organic nutrient mixes, and use compost tea bags and Neptunes harvest fish and seaweed a few times throughout)
 
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Chanceman1405

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Well this is kinda what I was asking for. I have dry ammendments been watching mr Canuck. Im just asking for measurement type of answer for compost teas. Will be doing 444 dry amendments and living soil amongst a few other things.
 
Dr.J20

Dr.J20

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i've not seen anyone worrying with pH or ppms in compost teas, mostly because the way you make them would make the dissolved solids meter go apeshit and pH is managed by your microbial hoard for the most part.

If you want to get 'measures' on your compost teas, throw a sample on a slide and check it out under the microscope. you'll be identifying and counting organisms.

Simplest recipe for AACT:
Throw a handful of fresh vermicompost (earth worm castings, or EWC), two tablespoons of blackstrap unsulphured molasses, a pinch of kelp meal, and a half teaspoon of fish hydrolysate (NOT FISH EMULSION) into a 5 gallon bucket full of 4 gallons of good water (low TDS, no chlorine or chloramine--collected rainwater is my personal favorite but a fucking pain to keep around without a collection system already functioning). get a 1000gph air pump and hook up an air stone to that sucker, drop it in the bucket and let it bubble for 24-36 hours. You can give it full strength or dilute it down to 1:8. I've used 1:8 as a foliar as well as 1:4 with added aloe juice.

be easy

:leaf: :peace: :leaf:
 
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Chanceman1405

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Dr.J20 said:
i've not seen anyone worrying with pH or ppms in compost teas, mostly because the way you make them would make the dissolved solids meter go apeshit and pH is managed by your microbial hoard for the most part.

If you want to get 'measures' on your compost teas, throw a sample on a slide and check it out under the microscope. you'll be identifying and counting organisms.

Simplest recipe for AACT:
Throw a handful of fresh vermicompost (earth worm castings, or EWC), two tablespoons of blackstrap unsulphured molasses, a pinch of kelp meal, and a half teaspoon of fish hydrolysate (NOT FISH EMULSION) into a 5 gallon bucket full of 4 gallons of good water (low TDS, no chlorine or chloramine--collected rainwater is my personal favorite but a fucking pain to keep around without a collection system already functioning). get a 1000gph air pump and hook up an air stone to that sucker, drop it in the bucket and let it bubble for 24-36 hours. You can give it full strength or dilute it down to 1:8. I've used 1:8 as a foliar as well as 1:4 with added aloe juice.

be easy

:leaf: :peace: :leaf:
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So I've heard of foliar sprays. They only work roughly 30 minutes after lights out and they should be applied with a mister instead of a regular spray bottle. And I didnt think compost lasted that long so you have to use them pretty much for that feeding. So 1/4 wouldn't be a lot unless I had a bunch of plants. Which ill have 16 outdoors which is what ill be running and 8 inside.
 
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Chanceman1405

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Chanceman1405 said:
So I've heard of foliar sprays. They only work roughly 30 minutes after lights out and they should be applied with a mister instead of a regular spray bottle. And I didnt think compost lasted that long so you have to use them pretty much for that feeding. So 1/4 wouldn't be a lot unless I had a bunch of plants. Which ill have 16 outdoors which is what ill be running and 8 inside.
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Those were questions too not smart ass remarks. I forgot to put questions marks.
 
Dr.J20

Dr.J20

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I'd check your info on foliars. Not sure what you mean about compost lasting any amount of time...compost is a living thing, it's alive so it lasts as long as you keep it alive...thats what the air is for in the aerated compost tea, and why you turn compost piles....yes you have to use compost teas as soon as they're done brewing, so it takes some planning for indoor, but no more than anything else organic or otherwise.

1/4 of what wouldn't be a lot of what? and 24 plants is a fair amount. You could easily use a single brew of 4 gallons on 24 plants productively. but its up to you--do what you please man,

be easy,

:peace:
 
Dr.J20

Dr.J20

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gotcha....yeah its versatile stuff--full strength wont burn and 1/8 is still quite useful esp. in the phylosphere.
 
Dr.J20

Dr.J20

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4 gallons diluted at 1:4 gets you 16 gallons which isn't quite enough to do all your plants with a gallon but you just need some--like a half gallon say, for a plant in a 5 gallon pot. so then to get a half gallon to 24 plants, you need 12 gallons. You can get 12 gallons out of the recipe I gave you by diluting 1:3.

:peace:
 
Dr.J20

Dr.J20

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pour the 4 gallons into 8 gallons of h2O and you've got 12 gallons total, 4 of which are pure aact. 4/12 = 1/3, right, or am i really that baked?
 
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Chanceman1405

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Dr.J20 said:
pour the 4 gallons into 8 gallons of h2O and you've got 12 gallons total, 4 of which are pure aact. 4/12 = 1/3, right, or am i really that baked?
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Your on the money lol. I thank you for the info man. Im really tired of getting hints of nutrition burn and hoping I get all the shit out during flush. I just feel like I can produce a better quality going all organic.
 
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Chanceman1405

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Chanceman1405 said:
Your on the money lol. I thank you for the info man. Im really tired of getting hints of nutrition burn and hoping I get all the shit out during flush. I just feel like I can produce a better quality going all organic.
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One more question. How often do you use composte teas "feedings" when going organic.
 
Dr.J20

Dr.J20

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going organic has certainly made my life easier and better!

Chanceman1405 said:
One more question. How often do you use composte teas "feedings" when going organic.
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as needed really, but generally once when i pot up seedlings and then oce when i go into flowering. a well made and maintained soil ought not need the microbial boost that the tea is for. i also foliar with aloe juice and/or kelp tea once a week until week 5-6 of flower. you should take a spin through the organics subforum here!

take it easy,

:leaf:
 
madvillian420

madvillian420

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Chanceman1405 said:
One more question. How often do you use composte teas "feedings" when going organic.
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keep reading my man, it seems like youre looking for one specific answer on these questions when theres multiple ways to go about it.

PPMs, PH? Measurements? i havent checked em in years, and i measure my compost by the heaping handful. I recently stopped mixing so many teas and started topdressing with the compost or amendments id be mixing in my teas and my plants dont seem to mind.
 
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