Organic Feeding 101.

Darth Vapour

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yeah I bet those smell strong, for temps that low?
That's gotta do something for them, those look damn impressive, especially considering the huge temp issues you have
dude i am sorta stoked waiting on some lower buds sites i chopped to give it a test but if she smokes anything like she smells its going to be killer just by handling them you have the hash smell on your hands very sweet smell with some pine after tones kinda of a mixture of pine and cherry note second bud on right drying up nicely its got the purple freckles with a fluorescent green look with the reds from the hairs .. It really going to have a nice bag appeal i might pending on high will start possibly slow harvest starting late next week 20 - 30 buds daily but will see
its light rain off and on and cold again today as for plant shes still amazingly healthy with some natural fad starting at bottom so
One thing for sure i am super happy with my simple soil mixture it took this plant 5 + months with out any nutrients and only rainwater IMG2708.jpgIMG2704.jpg

PS I never lollipoped or cleaned under which would of made buds allot bigger but also with shitty sunlight and weather she had in her flowering stage shes doing ok could of been alot better if i had good weather and sunlight she pretty much has had if i am lucky 2 weeks of good weather meaning sunlight rest has been over cast , cold and rain
 

HeartIandhank

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So iwas curious if i could get some insight from you all on the best way or organic product that is best for adding zinc/ and other essential minerals like zinc without having to buy bottled nutes?
http://www.amazon.com/Lbs-Azomite-Additive-Fertilizer-Minerals/dp/B000E7MTT4/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cp_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=41aGGoB+6-L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_SL500_SR101,135_&refRID=1CD51SZE10JN1CZXTVJ1
Azomite should give you zinc.. I mix in Azomite at planting at the rate of 1/4 cup per gal of soil.

I JUST increased the amount I give.. I previosuly was using 1/8 cup per G. I decided to up it by recommendation from a friend who uses at 1/4 c per G soil AND feeds via a solution at wk 3 and 6 of flowering.

Find a 40 lb bag locally. Save some money and stock up.

If you can't find azomite there is a product out there called Minerals Plus by Soil Mender and others. That probably has zinc in it too.
 

HeartIandhank

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dude i am sorta stoked waiting on some lower buds sites i chopped to give it a test but if she smokes anything like she smells its going to be killer just by handling them you have the hash smell on your hands very sweet smell with some pine after tones kinda of a mixture of pine and cherry note second bud on right drying up nicely its got the purple freckles with a fluorescent green look with the reds from the hairs .. It really going to have a nice bag appeal i might pending on high will start possibly slow harvest starting late next week 20 - 30 buds daily but will see
its light rain off and on and cold again today as for plant shes still amazingly healthy with some natural fad starting at bottom so
One thing for sure i am super happy with my simple soil mixture it took this plant 5 + months with out any nutrients and only rainwater View attachment 3519987View attachment 3519988

PS I never lollipoped or cleaned under which would of made buds allot bigger but also with shitty sunlight and weather she had in her flowering stage shes doing ok could of been alot better if i had good weather and sunlight she pretty much has had if i am lucky 2 weeks of good weather meaning sunlight rest has been over cast , cold and rain
How did the lower buds turn out?
 

VTMi'kmaq

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Id also like to hear your guys thoughts on ammoniacal Nitrogen versus other forms of nitrogen, i overheard a gardener saying one can be better than another for plants.
 

HeartIandhank

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Yes.. Higher in fact.. I use Alpha Chemicals Potassium Sulfate (Organic Sulfate of Potash) 0-0-50

I'm not using it to up the level of P.. rather I am using it to up the level of Sulfur.

There are lots of things people add to MJ plants thinking it will make their plants more resinous. I actually feel very confident that adding Sulfur really works. UV supplement light too, but that is another matter.

I use 40 G reservoirs.. Every other reservoir (last about 10-14 days) gets 1/8 tsp Potassium Sulfate per G. From seedling to harvest.

A friend of mine who uses the same stuff does 1/4 tsp per gal, once per week.

With that product you listed having lots of magnesium but no calcium I would worry about getting Cal/Mag ratio off without a little planning. Something to think about.
 
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HeartIandhank

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^ The only time I use super high P foods is when pushing flowers out of ornamentals.. Plumeria, bouganvillia, the real showy tropical flowers..
I used to (years ago) do a PK 13/14 treatment around wk 3 and wk 5 flower with MJ.. but not anymore. Might play around with it in the future though.
 

VTMi'kmaq

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Verynice, i am in soils. Can tell you that it's always interesting seeing what kind of reaction i get from 15-20 in N-P-K. I enjoy learning from my mistakes.
 

HeartIandhank

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I've made every mistake you could make.. worst one I made this year? While treating for spider mites in a non organic garden I accidently 4x'd the spreader sticker/surfactant in my pesticide spray mix.. killed probably 60 plants over a 2 wk period. I was piiiiiissed.
 

HeartIandhank

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Verynice, i am in soils. Can tell you that it's always interesting seeing what kind of reaction i get from 15-20 in N-P-K. I enjoy learning from my mistakes.
If you have not supplemented Sulfur before.. give it a try. I bet you'll like the results. I'de like to hear someone elses as well.. I'm never in denial about the fact that sometimes what you THINK you see is not what you are really seeing. So I'm always looking for others experience on the matter.

Pretty confident about the Sulfur thing though..
 

Darth Vapour

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How did the lower buds turn out?
All in all i am pretty happy with the outcome , like i said just plain shitty flowering weather , she was chopped on the Nov 10th looks like going to be 3 - 3 1/4 pounds dry of good buds and another half pound dry of inner larf buds so just under 4 lookin or that perfect northern climate strain she can handle the weather but shes a light dep in my region like the one i did same strain light dep these were smoking size right to soil my big girl never got the intense light gallery_11738_4908_18745.jpggallery_11738_4908_108826.jpg gallery_11738_4908_526142.jpg gallery_11738_4908_18745.jpg gallery_11738_4908_108826.jpg gallery_11738_4908_526142.jpg
 

skunkwreck

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If you have not supplemented Sulfur before.. give it a try. I bet you'll like the results. I'de like to hear someone elses as well.. I'm never in denial about the fact that sometimes what you THINK you see is not what you are really seeing. So I'm always looking for others experience on the matter.

Pretty confident about the Sulfur thing though..
When can we expect another Heartlandhank drop...I'll post you a pic of your SSH x SM soon.
 

HeartIandhank

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When can we expect another Heartlandhank drop...I'll post you a pic of your SSH x SM soon.
I sprouted some of the SSH x SM a while back.. I have several males and females. I hope to start flowering out the females in about 3 months.

So, hoping for SSH x SM F2's by summer 2016.

I know.. slow as fuck :lol:

I wanna get the SSH x SM just right.. Would like to get an F4 male to use as my sativa hybrid stud. There is some 12+ week haze in the lineage.. I wanna get that out of there and emphasize the 9 wk ssh.

At the same time I will be backcrossing the SSH x SM to the 9 wk SSH mama..
 

skunkwreck

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I sprouted some of the SSH x SM a while back.. I have several males and females. I hope to start flowering out the females in about 3 months.

So, hoping for SSH x SM F2's by summer 2016.

I know.. slow as fuck :lol:

I wanna get the SSH x SM just right.. Would like to get an F4 male to use as my sativa hybrid stud. There is some 12+ week haze in the lineage.. I wanna get that out of there and emphasize the 9 wk ssh.

At the same time I will be backcrossing the SSH x SM to the 9 wk SSH mama..
SSH x SM
 

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Great list, just a few things I would add...

A couple of major tea herbs have been left out of this list that should definitely be included.

Comfrey - Major source of NPK as well as other micro nutrients and minerals mined from the Earth's subsoil.

Stinging Nettle - Another great balanced source of NPK, large amounts of Calcium and other minerals and vitamin C, used in Bio-Dynamic farming to give intelligence to the soil.

"Stinging nettle stimulates soil health, providing plants with the individual nutrition components needed. It enlivens the earth and helps to release iron into the soil. Helps to improve the potency of plants by increasing their sensitivity and individualizing them to their surroundings. Improves the nutritive qualities of plants. Mars forces are said to manifest in stinging nettle."

Chamomile - Full of minerals and other plant stimulating compounds, chamomile teas can boost the plants own immunity to disease or pests, and help balance and regulate plant growth.

Valerian - Source of minerals and phosphorus.

"Valerian helps to concentrate phosphorous in the plant and this in turn aids with the plants capacity to attract light in the photosynthesis process. It stimulates the phosphate activating bacteria in the soil. Valerian deals with the forces from Saturn."

Dandelion (flowers and leaves) - NPK, minerals, immune boosting properties, used in Bio-Dynamic farming to help plants "tune in" the the environment and draw nutrients or needed minerals where they are needed.

"Dandelion gives the soil a living, ethereal quality with the ability to supply the substances a plant needs. It increases a plants sensitivity and helps it to attract beneficial elements from a wider area. Dandelion works strongly with silica and potassium and, via silica, draws in forces from the outer planets, particularly Jupiter."

Yarrow - Contains potassium, selenium and sulfur, used in Bio-Dynamic farming to "bring light forces into the soil via its connection with sulfur, helping spirit to penetrate matter and enables it to attract trace elements. Important for reproduction and growth. Venus forces are said to manifest in yarrow."

White Oak Bark - Combats disease, used in Bio-Dynamic farming to "work very strongly with calcium and is an excellent remedy for plant diseases including fungus. It helps to restore balance with the ether body of the plant and control rampant growth. Moon forces become active in the plant in a healthy manner with oak bark. Extended use of the oak bark will help to raise the ph of the soil without the need to add lime."

All text in "quotes" was taken from http://cityfoodgrowers.com.au/biody_prep.php?phpMyAdmin=Z,IJJ48cThaTKeB7RCzlHYx-gCf

All of these herbal teas can be brewed a number of ways, and the Bio-Dynamic people have their own ways of doing each one, however, based on my experience and intuition, whether you simply throw the stuff in a bucket for 2 weeks, use a small air stone and molasses to brew up some microbes, or bio-ferment and bury them in the earth according to the celestial movements... Anyway you use them, they will help.

Personally, I brew the herbs up altogether, individually or in mixes, in cheese cloth, usually with a bit of home made worm castings, in PH neutral filtered water. I add a couple tablespoons of raw honey and bubble them with an air stone for 3 days.
(I have gone up to 5 days, but the thick head of bacterial foam seems to peak around 3 days)
I use it 12:1 or 15:1.

Also, if you do not grow your own herbs (very easy and beautiful to do in any yard, most being perennials) make sure you buy organically grown herbs, the microbes your trying to grow do not like chemicals (pesticides, fungicides and tap water)

Thanks for reading! :leaf:
you sound like a steiner fan?
 

iskatero19

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Will this be fine? There is "sodium" in this nute and as far as I remember I just read that sodium is not good for cannabis.
I'm kinda confused right now.

 
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