nick17gar
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ive done the banana tea a few times now, adding in about a tablespoon of molasses per liter...
and its a huge difference. plus you get to eat the bananas.... in cereal... or...banana splits...
Organic Feeding 101.
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and its a huge difference. plus you get to eat the bananas.... in cereal... or...banana splits...
nick17gar
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thats the entire point of letting it sit. some of the recipes your boiling it with water, extracting the elements, and there ya go. on others, like the rotten fruits one, your waiting til you get that bacteria growing, then giving it 2 weeks to multiply, and get richer. these microbes eat stuff in your dirt and give off CO2, as well as other nutrients. its awesome for the plants.
either way, the sugars, carbs, co2, and other elements just speed up or boost the chemical reactions already taking place with the plant, and you end up with bigger plants.
nick17gar
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yup. i use it on my garden too, peppers, spices. its great. and almost free.
seamore green
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Hey nick good post, i have a question about your banana tea. It says 4 peels, is that 4 bananas or a single banana
Kb's seeds
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Organic feeding provides great results. A good organic grow starts with the soil. (look at subcool's section on that. he knows soil.) Im going to go over strictly what to do once the plant is in the dirt, and you still need to feed them something. Feeding the plants the right stuff is key to successful grows, and knowing what to feed and when, is needed for every grower.
If your plant has some sort of issue, theres threads on that https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/488004-guide-nutrient-deficiency-toxicity.html . this thread is gonna cover what do to AFTER you notice a deficiency, or just to keep a healthy garden. this will be using only organic nutrients. Ive purchased bottles of guano, and molasses and wondered... what now? well this is what now.
**note: most of these teas/mixtures involve some mixing, but a lot of wait time. this is to fully let the properties of the substance combine with the water, and for microbial activity to start. Do not skip the waiting**
Vegetative Teas:
Worm humus:
Origin:this mix is produced from the excrement of worms. they ingest organic material and you end up with this. The best quality of worm humus is going to be from the Californian worms.
Provides: water soluble, and boosts microbes in the soil
Preparation: In 5 liters of water, add in 400gr (about 2 cups) and let it sit for 2 days. stirring every so often to keep it well mixed and the water somewhat oxygenated.
Applicationuring the watering, mixing 1 part of poo-juice with 3 parts water. you can add this in weekly.
Blood Meal:
Origin: After removing and drying blood from animals(usually in a slaughterhouse), it is ground up into a fine powder.
Provides about 12-15%N, 1.2%P, and 1%k
Preparation: in a container, add 1 part blood meal to 9 parts water. cover. over 1 week, open to burp the mix, and stir. after, filter with coffee strainer.
Application: Applying usually only when N deficiency is noted, add to water to create a 10%-25% strength solution.
Gypsum
Origin: CaSO4. Its a rock basically, you can find it naturally outdoors, or (probably easier) at a local plant shop.
Provides: Activates healthy microbial activity. Corrects salinity (toxic salt levels). Provides sulfur, calcium and potassium. Regulates pH, and most importantly, helps in the absorption of N.
Preparation: add 1 pound of gypsum powder (use a mortar and pistil if its too coarse) to the inside of a nylon stocking, or other fine screen material. place this inside a container with 5L of water. Cover. leave for 1-2 weeks, opening the container to stir briskly every few days.
Application: Add it in with the water when pH is unstable, max 10% strength (so dilute it!). dilute it to 5% if mixing it with a N tea, and can be used weekly.
Fishmeal
Origin: obtained from dried, ground fish.
Provides: 8%N, 7%P, trace elements.
Preparation: mix 10% of this powder with 90% water in a container. leave it a week covered, and opening it to burp out the gas (dont breathe it in, smells). Filter at the end of the week.
Application: Dilute the mix, 1part fishgoop with 10 parts water. add in weekly with the feedings, or when a N/P deficiency is noted.
Bat Guano
Origin: decomposed bat poo. preferably pasteurized (since bats can and do carry disease, like rabies!)
Provides: High in N, but also contains P and trace elements. Fresher guano has higher N rating
Preparation: 2 tablespoons of bat poo in 4 -5 liters of water. let sit for 1 week
Application: mix the finished poo water, 1 part to 3 parts water. use every 2 weeks.
Mixed Teas: This is ok for veg + flowering.
Compost Tea (one of my favorites, as i use ground up male plants, or the sticks/stems/fan leaves of the harvested females for this)
Origin: The easiest to come across commercially, or to make at home. this is used worldwide with a variety of ingredients.
Provides: A big boost of microorganisms, helps feed the plants, and boosts a plant's immune system. NPK ratios vary depending the type of compost made.
Preparation: Place a bunch of dead plants in a nylon stocking or screen, put that inside a bucket with about 15L of water, adding water as it evaporates (which means leave it uncovered). after 2 weeks, dump the inside of the bag/screen/stocking back with the rest of your compost pile outside or throw it away or whatever.
Application: If you want to foliar feed this, filter it well, then 1:8 ratio of tea to water. otherwise, just add it in when watering, at a 1:5 ratio. use it every 2 weeks.
Alfalfa Tea. (can also be used during flowering)
Origin: your rabbit's food. this is ground up alfalfa, leaves, stems.
Provides: 2.5%n, 5%p, and 2%k.
Preparation: grabbing a nylon sock and filling with 1 part of the alfalfa, setting it into a bucket with 10 parts water. leave it for a week to create a strong tea.
Application: use every 2 weeks, diluted 1part tea with 10 parts water.
Manures
Origin: the business end of various animals.
Provides: This really depends on what the animal ate, and what the animal is. Rough estimates are:Cows: .6%N-.3%P-.3%KPreparation: 1 part crap to 10 parts water, in a bucket. 2 weeks, stirring periodically. (again, this is better for the nylon stockings, otherwise your gonna have to filter it - yuck)
horse: .6%N-.6%P-.4%k
Rabbit: .5%N-1.2%P-.5%K
Sheep: .8%N-.5%P-.4%K
Pigs: .6%N-.6%P-.4%K
Application: 1 part poop water to 1 part water. can be used every 2 weeks.
Fruit tea, with or without Molasses.
Origin: made with fermenting fruits. its recommended to add molasses for flowering.
Provides: Rich in NPK, but also contains calcium and some other trace elements. Very rich in microbial activity. Using molasses adds a large amounts of carbs and can contribute to fungus (in high heat grows)
Preparation: Cut fruits into small pieces. place in a container and cover them with molasses( OR cut up fruits, place into a ziploc bag with NO molasses or air) Let it sit for 2 weeks, opening it periodically to let out gases. filter.
Application: 1 tablespoon of fruit rot juice (ew) to 1 liter of water. use it every 10 days.
Flowering Teas:
Banana Peel Tea.
Origin: Bananas. Cheap to make. eat the banana, use the peels.
Provides: Strong Potassium Boost. ideal for flowering.
Preparation: after selecting 4 bananas, and eating the insides, place the 4 peels into a pot, with 4 cups of water (1L). You can also add in 2 tablespoons of molasses. Bring to a boil. let boil for 5 minutes. remove the peels. let cool. place in jars for storage.
Application: mix this 1 part banana goop to 2 parts water. use every 2 weeks.
Sea Weed
Origin: algae or kelp, dried, ground into a powder.
Provides: Lots of K, and trace elements, aminoacids, vitamins, hormones.
Preparation: 100grams of algae powder + 2Liters of water, let sit overnight.
Application: mix 1 part of sea weed juice to 3 parts water, and apply during waterings. can be used every watering.
Paper Ash tea.
Origin: This powder is obtained from burned paper. make sure the paper has no pigments (inks), glues, adhesives, or plastic covering. just plain paper. the cheaper the stuff, the better.
Provides: 5% P and 2% K
Preparation: Burn the paper fully. Ground up the ash. 100g of ash mixed with 2 L of water. let sit 10 days, then filter.
Application: use every 15 days, mixed 1 part ash juice to 2 parts water.
Bonemeal
Origin: Bones, crushed, ground up.
Provides: some N (3%?) and around 7% of P. high in calcium
Preparation: cook in a pot for 10 minutes, 200grams of bonemeal with 6 liters of water, and 1/2 cup of baking soda. let cool, then remove any grease that may have formed at the top. filter the rest of the mix.
Application: Use 1 part bone water to 3 parts water. use it at the start of the 12/12 cycle, or the start of flowering. will last the entire grow.
if you guys have other recipes, post them on here!
i got a easy tea recipe sourced from materials u can find at almost any hydro store, its for brewing in a 5gal container and can be diluted with filtered water after brewing
malibu's compost bu's brews compost tea bags - 2 tea bags
bountea organic's humisoil - 1/2 cup
fresh worm castings - 1/2 cup
un-sulphured molasses - 2 table spoons
the bu's brew compost tea bags has stinging nettle, chamomile, valerian, dandelion, yarrow, oak bark, compost dairy cow shit and prolly something else but i forget
brew times - best brewed for atleast 12hrs
keefbox420
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veg garden loves the tea along with the bud
my magical tea filtered for the most part and ready to use...chicken poo in a sock
diamond black
roots organic
great white
molasses
bubbled for 2 weeks
PakaloloHui
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2 weeks??? How did your tea smell and did you keep adding food for the microbes to keep them fed?
keefbox420
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it smelled nice and sweet lol sweet and funky yes i fed them thats what the molasses is for as long as is is foaming the microbes have food i have used many diff
recipes for the teas and some i let sit for longer......iv used fish fruit manure wood paper compost all kinds of teas if you know what you are doing there is no need to even buy
fert from the store
keefbox420
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the only reason this one was sitting for so long is i didnt need as much as i thought so i just let it bubble till i need it feeding the microbes as needed
foreverflyhi
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the longest i brew a tea was about a week, and yup mollasses is what keeps it alive for the most part, the only problem with that is that i think its a waste of mollasses and maybe can potientally harm your plants, mollasses is pure suar and trust me too much sugar for anything or anyone is not always good, LESS IS BETTER is where im trying to get at lol.
any wayz do majority of people dillute your teas or do u ever make light or even strong tea and feed directly in the plant?
any wayz do majority of people dillute your teas or do u ever make light or even strong tea and feed directly in the plant?
nick17gar
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well the molasses in the teas are mainly for carbs and sugar so the bacteria reproduce faster, atleast from what i gather.
i try to dilute everything more then recommended. the only one i go heavy with at this point is the banana tea (4 banana peels boiled with 1liter water, strained and another liter added in...), i add a tablespoon molasses to it, and put it in the soil about a week after i switch them to 12/12. ive noticed with faster budding plants, theres still a little banana taste added in, but its not much really, and a small price to pay to make sure your not lacking potassium pretty much the entire flower phase (i still feed them nutes, but its a nice boost, and damn near free)
Note: the only reason thats the one i go heavy with is becuase ive tried it a lot, for every plant ive flowered over the past year+, the others i havent done more than once or twice, just gathering the ingrediants is a pain, compared to buying bananas.
the compost one i love as well. i compost leaves, stems and clippings from prior plants, i put the compost in with the soil in the pots *closer to the bottom*, and any leaves that fall off during the grow, or i trim off for ventilation purposes i spread around on top of the soil, works like mulch to lower the soil temp so i water less, and provides more free nutes
WyoGrow
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For a really good fungus promoting tea try adding to your 5gal tea brew: 2-3tbsp of wheat or oat flour and a 1tbsp of rock dust.
I brew 50 gallons at a whack and water my entire garden with a mild basic tea every week. 2-4 pound beefsteak tomatoes don't lie about it's effectiveness. I do smaller batches of specialty tea's as needed. But mostly just a 5gal bucket of finished compost, three hand fulls of bone meal, 2 hand fulls of blood meal, 2 hand fulls of rock dust, 2 hand fulls of oatmeal, 2 hand fulls of rabbit feed (alfalfa pellets), 2 cups wood ash from my stove (I save all the ash from winter), 1 cup fish emulsion, 1 cup kelp extract, 1 cup epsom salt, 1/2 cup veggie oil to keep it from foaming all over the place and half a jar of molasses. Bubble the snot out of it for 5-6 days and use all of it in my big ass garden. Everything loves it. When my 75g tank is empty I shovel out the gunk in the bottom and toss it in my compost tumbler. Waste nothing!!!!
I dilute it by 50% with rain water for watering my garden. For a foliar feed I filter 4 gallons through a tee shirt and a 1 can of flat bargian brand pop and load it into my pump sprayer and go to town.....
I brew 50 gallons at a whack and water my entire garden with a mild basic tea every week. 2-4 pound beefsteak tomatoes don't lie about it's effectiveness. I do smaller batches of specialty tea's as needed. But mostly just a 5gal bucket of finished compost, three hand fulls of bone meal, 2 hand fulls of blood meal, 2 hand fulls of rock dust, 2 hand fulls of oatmeal, 2 hand fulls of rabbit feed (alfalfa pellets), 2 cups wood ash from my stove (I save all the ash from winter), 1 cup fish emulsion, 1 cup kelp extract, 1 cup epsom salt, 1/2 cup veggie oil to keep it from foaming all over the place and half a jar of molasses. Bubble the snot out of it for 5-6 days and use all of it in my big ass garden. Everything loves it. When my 75g tank is empty I shovel out the gunk in the bottom and toss it in my compost tumbler. Waste nothing!!!!
I dilute it by 50% with rain water for watering my garden. For a foliar feed I filter 4 gallons through a tee shirt and a 1 can of flat bargian brand pop and load it into my pump sprayer and go to town.....
Growop101
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at nick17gar....
So for the compost tea you can use any dead vegetation ? also how long should it sit in the water , also i wasnt able to understand the ratio for application..
And for the compost tea and the banana tea do you need a bubler in the water? or can you just have it sitting.
Can the tea be sitting outside in the open? no lid?
Sorry for all the questions i jus never maade a tea before and wana do this right.
So for the compost tea you can use any dead vegetation ? also how long should it sit in the water , also i wasnt able to understand the ratio for application..
And for the compost tea and the banana tea do you need a bubler in the water? or can you just have it sitting.
Can the tea be sitting outside in the open? no lid?
Sorry for all the questions i jus never maade a tea before and wana do this right.
nick17gar
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ummm... 1 part tea(solute), 5 parts water(solvent) ...?
nick17gar
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any dead vegetation. i prefer to use dead pot plants, this way i know the plants were similar in terms of nutrient balances, and also i know my waste products arent leaving the property (security first!)
- Preparation: Place a bunch of dead plants in a nylon stocking or screen, put that inside a bucket with about 15L of water, adding water as it evaporates (which means leave it uncovered). after 2 weeks, dump the inside of the bag/screen/stocking back with the rest of your compost pile outside or throw it away or whatever.
they sit in water for 2 weeks. no lid.
then it says 1 to 5 ratio. so check how much tea ya have, if its close to 1 liter, then you add 5 liters of water, ending up with 6L of tea (thats about 17% strength, i dunno, little less then 20%)
then add to the plants. if you want to foliar feed it (spray it on the leaves) then dilute it more.
nick17gar
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i usually just add a bit to dirt when i mix it up and call it a day. i could see this coming in handy if you just bought some and arent ´making fresh dirt´any time soon, and want to add some bloodmeal to whats already growing.
Daemonn789
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Can any shed light on how long teas/nute mixes can sit out for? Aerated and unaerated? I ask because sometimes I've ended up making too much and it will sit/bubble for 2-3 days between use. Instead of dumping anything out, I'd like to just reuse it.