Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!

Nice! Are you water only from start to finish with that mix as well?!

Cheers for the share 420

my current recipe:
6 parts FFOF
3 happy frog
2 pro-mix BX
3 large perlite
1 dry coco coir (2 when wet)
1 worm casting
1tbs azomite

Sincerely420 said:

Nice! Are you water only from start to finish with that mix as well?!

Cheers for the share 420

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well I plant my clones in that mix and veg them in 2-3 gallons, Than i ether transplant
to super soil (subcools recipe made with same mix) or flower them in the 2-3 gallon and only water (or one lite feeding of a organic based bottled nute, or a aact, or some dry organic food). I only get 2 oz if i leave them in the 2-3 gallon and dont feed. but when i put them in a 7-12 gallon contaner they preform beyond my expections....

But yes with that mix you could do water only for sure

Nice! and thanks for the share again bro! So many different ways to get to the same results! We've got FFOF being used like 15 different ways already in this thread!
I'm just using it as a base(as it's loaded with goodness), and then amending it so I can go water only from start to finish, although I do use AACTs regularly throughout the grow. Pretty much once a week or every other watering until I chop!
No need to flush either because there are no chemicals involved in the process!

Hello all, I too use FFOF and their supplements/feeding schedule but I ran into problems. I was using RODI water Ph 7.2 TDS 0 runoff Ph dropped to 6 had a significant Mg problem. I went to nonfiltered tap water, An Epsom salt foliar spray and limestone added to my 5 gal buckets seem to have corrected the problem.
However, can anyone help me? I am following the FF soil feeding schedule so my plants are fertilized once a week with big bloom, tiger bloom and grow big according to the schedule, but here is my concern: I only water once a week otherwise my girls don't look happy. According to the schedule I am supposed to fertilize every other watering once a week. Should I only fertilize every other week and alternate with just water on the off week? (My girls are in 5 gal buckets watered with 3 quarts of water once a week).
thanks,
JB

Care to share some pics boss?! I could tell you what I see lol, but I don't have enough info from you to help you out bro...

Watering once a week isn't really idea unless you're in the VERY early life stages of the plant, which is a time that you wouldn't be feeding, or if you we're you'd be feedling light...So I'm confused. They could very well be thirsty all the time!

If you have a mg def. adding lime could have helped, but can also raise your pH so be careful with it.

But yeah, I can't really say without more info or you sharing a pic bro..
If you can't post a pic, maybe someone over in the problems section might be skilled enough to tell you whats wrong without pics.
Or maybe someone here sees it IDK, but I'd post over in the problems section too boss! Good luck with the operation

JbGramz said:

Hello all, I too use FFOF and their supplements/feeding schedule but I ran into problems. I was using RODI water Ph 7.2 TDS 0 runoff Ph dropped to 6 had a significant Mg problem. I went to nonfiltered tap water, An Epsom salt foliar spray and limestone added to my 5 gal buckets seem to have corrected the problem.
However, can anyone help me? I am following the FF soil feeding schedule so my plants are fertilized once a week with big bloom, tiger bloom and grow big according to the schedule, but here is my concern: I only water once a week otherwise my girls don't look happy. According to the schedule I am supposed to fertilize every other watering once a week. Should I only fertilize every other week and alternate with just water on the off week? (My girls are in 5 gal buckets watered with 3 quarts of water once a week).
thanks,
JB

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Nute,Water water nute,Is what id do!Less is better in most cases concerning ferts.Tap is fine and a good source of Mg.
Beech

Yeah, stick to what beech said. This will still apply when they get bigger and require water more often. I have used their line before, a long time ago, I was not happy except their big bloom is okay, Id much rather give them AACT instead.


edit: also, aint used a drop of r/o EVER. Its only needed when your on a well with hard water, not all wells even need it, mine doesnt need it. All US tap should be just fine considering how regulated it is! I only recently started using well/rain water,,, NEVER had an issue with tap water.

JbGramz said:

Hello all, I too use FFOF and their supplements/feeding schedule but I ran into problems. I was using RODI water Ph 7.2 TDS 0 runoff Ph dropped to 6 had a significant Mg problem. I went to nonfiltered tap water, An Epsom salt foliar spray and limestone added to my 5 gal buckets seem to have corrected the problem.
However, can anyone help me? I am following the FF soil feeding schedule so my plants are fertilized once a week with big bloom, tiger bloom and grow big according to the schedule, but here is my concern: I only water once a week otherwise my girls don't look happy. According to the schedule I am supposed to fertilize every other watering once a week. Should I only fertilize every other week and alternate with just water on the off week? (My girls are in 5 gal buckets watered with 3 quarts of water once a week).
thanks,
JB

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I know I sound like a broken record when I post here lol. I had two main issues with FFOF straight from the bag. PH fell under 5.5 when applying PH adjusted water ranged from 6.3-6.6, and I had calcium and magnesium deficiencies in flower. Couple that with RO water and maybe the risk is even higher for micro deficiency. I ended up flushing with ph adjusted water and implementing fertilizers because I couldn't get a handle on it fast enough. It looks like you've made a correction for these issues and its fixed that problem. Be ready for it during flower as well though, and a foliar feed may not be as effective at that point. As S420 said, lime helps to provide cal and mag while raising your PH simultaneously, which you've already done. The problem with limestone or garden lime is that its highly granular and takes can take a long time to break down. If you're using granular limestone I would consider re-applying once you start 12/12. If you get in a pinch with cal/mag or PH deficiencies consider powdered lime for a faster acting option to pull the PH back up and provide soluble nutrients your plants are looking for. If you use it, go easy with it, a little goes a long ways, and one application when necessary should be enough to get you out of a pinch. I also have only been able to find it in 5 lb bags or something like that.

If you're only watering once per week, my first guess would be that your plants haven't filled out their pots yet. I would consider giving them less water per application until they ask for more, meanwhile go with your choice of scheduled feedings. Beech's plan was pretty ideal when I used that lineup. If they haven't filled out their pots yet, I presume they won't need much food given the containers have some left to give. Once they're into flowering a couple weeks a bit more aggressive could be considered.

I'm with WhoD on his feedback of that lineup, FFOF is nice as long as you know what care it needs. Knowing what deficiencies will come next will help you avoid issues with it. It worked fine for me out of the bag, as long as I used lime either in the mix, water or as a top dressing. The nutrient lineup is fine for veg, but I didn't care for it during flower. Open Sesame, Beastie Bloom and Cha-Ching are overpriced, but they do work. My favorite of their products is their Big Bloom too. More for seedlings and clones than for a flowering nutrient though.

Is it possible that you're over watering for their root mass / container size ratio? How long have they been in 5 gallon containers? I like to water around every 3rd day personally. Another thing to consider, when my plants have crept out of PH range, they do uptake less water. Hopefully straightening out your PH will help you there too. A happy plant is thirsty and hungry all the time!

I'm actually having issues with my Super Soil being too alkaline (I presume) and peat seems to be helping to buffer to a more acidic range when mixed with the SS while making it a bit lighter.

Good work getting your PH and cal/mag sorted out, you've won a small battle.

Thanks for your responses, I have not yet responded because I had an AC unit go out in my grow room and temp got to 102!!! I fear I just baked my grow . To clarify, I only water my flowering girls once a week. Who Dat, what's AACT? As much money as I am dropping on FFOF products, if there is a better organic choice out there I am all ears. Thanks for sharing the knowledge!!

Go back and look the the thread bro. By the time you're made it back here to page 7 you will have learned EVERYTHING about AACT's that you need to know !

If you don't get something along the way, let us know...But basically an AACT is your own homemade organic bottled nutrient!

I add a few things to my FFOF

Jamaican guano
Indonesian guano
mexican guano
ewc
buffaloam
mykos extreme gardening
garden lime (dolomite)
The first watering I give them ewc tea
I will make a tea every once and awhile and give them
Around week 5 I hit it with the earth juice line up

texin said:

I add a few things to my FFOF

Jamaican guano
Indonesian guano
mexican guano
ewc
buffaloam
mykos extreme gardening
garden lime (dolomite)
The first watering I give them ewc tea
I will make a tea every once and awhile and give them
Around week 5 I hit it with the earth juice line up

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Looks like a winner to me for sure bro!
First time I've EVER seen the name Buffaloam, but just looked it up to be buffalo compost?!
Sounds promising to me bro!

I see that you didn't have any perlite tho?? You don't add anymore to the soil??

Lol yes I do add perlite about 40 percent It stays way to moist with out the perlite. I like the buffaloam for sure.

Dam I forgot the bone meal I add to. Thats it

Looks like you could do it without the bonemeal honestly! But thx for replying bro! Sure you post will help somebody!
And good luck in the near future boss

Right on Thanks. I just started using bone meal in the soil to see if there where any pros, but your right its perfect for me with out the bone meal. Kelp meal and alfalfa meal are really good in the mix.

And while we are talking about FFOF they seem to have a gnat problem every once in awhile. I will have to add a small layer of sand on the top of the soil to kill them off.

That's wassup boss! I've seen a few ppl say that, and I find it so interesting because I've gone thru 4 bags and not seen a bug yet?!

Maybe it has to do with where you get it from?! IDK

But sands helps huh?!
I wasn't aware of that so thanks fo sharing for sure

Another amendment to grab if you're having bug probs is neem meal!

Ya I use azamax I think i spelled it right it kills any bug. It has neem oil in it. I have gone through atleast 80 bags of FFOF over the years so it every once in awhile you will get a gnat bag. The sand stops them from breeding or escaping the soil.

80:4

You:Me lol and here I am trying to give you advice lol!
And I've heard of Azamax but lucking haven't had to ue anything of that nature yet! Let me go knock on wood tho ha!

But hey, I'll def. keep my eyes peeled and remember what you told me in the event I do see one haha!
Got some green sand just laying around haha and it probably will be for a while!

But cheer bro