Organic Indoor AK-48 under T5 (Veg & Bloom) with BMO Nutrients

Auzzie07

Auzzie07

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Update:

Alright, so I've run into a salt build-up or magnesium deficiency. I was told to do a flush. Here's what I'm working with:
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Buddy of mine I talked to said it was likely a magnesium deficiency due to the use of dolomite lime. Apparently, dolomite lime is calcium and could create a nutrient lockout of the magnesium. I asked if it worked the other way around, if there was too much magnesium, could it cause a calcium lockout, to which I was surprised with a "no" answer. Learn something new everyday.

Either way, I figured I'd run it by my sub'd peeps before I did anything. She'll be due for a watering tomorrow anyway, so if I need to flush, it will be right on time.
 
reggaerican

reggaerican

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for sure flush bro there is some burn going on in the third pic...
are you alternating your waterings, or just feeding all the way thru?
 
Auzzie07

Auzzie07

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I've been alternating feed, water, feed, water. I may switch to feed, water, water after this little debacle.
 
reggaerican

reggaerican

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hmmmm, right i thought we talked about that once.. well just plain water can never be a bad thing in dirt, your girl is still young so she doesnt need much food right now.. i did not feed my outdoor once this year and didnt even have that good of soil.. it was kinda a test that prevailed..
 
SmeLLyTreeZ

SmeLLyTreeZ

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Auzzie07 said:
I know! I'm waiting around until I get some cash. I've already dropped about 500 or so into this venture, and have bills to pay. So now the bills have to come first.
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I hear that! Get those bills taken care of and then get yourself a damn ph tester haha..
 
SkunkDunks

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Damn bills :finger:

It won't be as accurate as a digital meter, but you can pick up litmus paper for around $7-10. You can check your local hydro store, hobby shop, or aquarium place. It won't tell you to the decimal but if you have a big enough shift it'll let you know which way you need to be going. Just a thought.
 
reggaerican

reggaerican

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SkunkDunks said:
Damn bills :finger:

It won't be as accurate as a digital meter, but you can pick up litmus paper for around $7-10. You can check your local hydro store, hobby shop, or aquarium place. It won't tell you to the decimal but if you have a big enough shift it'll let you know which way you need to be going. Just a thought.
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dude your dirt so ph isnt as important but none the less you could get the strips or the GH droplets for $12???, but if you must use tap water just squeeze half a lemon to each galon of water and it should help..
 
Bonzi Lighthouse

Bonzi Lighthouse

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Ph is rarely an issue with soil, just ask FDD2BLK "what's Ph".

Everytime somebody in soil over waters or over nutes Ph gets blamed. Save your money.
 
SkunkDunks

SkunkDunks

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reggaerican and bonzi, it does seem like pH is a scapegoat here. I had some droopy/curling leaves and was told to check my pH over and over. After literally checking the pH of EVERYTHING I could in my setup and everything testing OK I knew it had to be something else. Turns out I made a newbie mistake and didn't transplant up and the roots were getting 'wet feet'. Now that they're in larger pots, they're doing great.

Even so, I now have a pH meter that I can't return so I'm going to get every bit of use out of it by pH'ing my water. Maybe it'll make a difference, maybe not.
 
SmeLLyTreeZ

SmeLLyTreeZ

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SkunkDunks said:
reggaerican and bonzi, it does seem like pH is a scapegoat here. I had some droopy/curling leaves and was told to check my pH over and over. After literally checking the pH of EVERYTHING I could in my setup and everything testing OK I knew it had to be something else. Turns out I made a newbie mistake and didn't transplant up and the roots were getting 'wet feet'. Now that they're in larger pots, they're doing great.

Even so, I now have a pH meter that I can't return so I'm going to get every bit of use out of it by pH'ing my water. Maybe it'll make a difference, maybe not.
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It makes a BIG difference depending on how bad your water is.. Plus when your mixing nutes etc it comes in handy to make sure they don't change the ph in anyway. Once you get your nutes and water down and know the ph then maybe it wouldn't make much of a difference.. I still check though!
 
SkunkDunks

SkunkDunks

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I'm not complaining about checking my pH at all. The more I can get each aspect of my grow close to 'perfect', the better my product will be. As a newb, it's hard sometimes to sift through ALL the information and finding what works right for me. I take everything in stride and appreciate all tips/comments/etc :leaf:
 
Auzzie07

Auzzie07

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I find it interesting that FDD doesn't think pH matters. I may have to ask him his thoughts on this.

Also, I've heard that Advanced Nutrients pH buffers their products. And since AN is cannabis-specific (I believe...) then is it safe to understand their pH buffering as: Whatever your tap water is and whatever nutrients you add, the pH level will always stay at a pH that is usable for our favorite plant.
Or...
Does pH buffering mean that it will not effect the pH when added to a solution. For example, these are just random numbers I'm throwing out here, if one had tap water at 7.0 and added 2 TBSP of Cal-Mag which raised the pH to 8.5 and then AN Nirvana was added. The pH would be buffered, thereby not changing the overall solutions pH at all, and would stay at 8.5

So which one is it? How does this pH buffering work? Is it all a sham?
 
reggaerican

reggaerican

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Auzzie07 said:
I find it interesting that FDD doesn't think pH matters. I may have to ask him his thoughts on this.

Also, I've heard that Advanced Nutrients pH buffers their products. And since AN is cannabis-specific (I believe...) then is it safe to understand their pH buffering as: Whatever your tap water is and whatever nutrients you add, the pH level will always stay at a pH that is usable for our favorite plant.
Or...
Does pH buffering mean that it will not effect the pH when added to a solution. For example, these are just random numbers I'm throwing out here, if one had tap water at 7.0 and added 2 TBSP of Cal-Mag which raised the pH to 8.5 and then AN Nirvana was added. The pH would be buffered, thereby not changing the overall solutions pH at all, and would stay at 8.5

So which one is it? How does this pH buffering work? Is it all a sham?
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my nutes have ph buffers as well and the way that works is you set it once and forget about it... the bufferes will take it from there... many people have problems with buffers in the begining cause if you check it with your meter it will read high, so naturally you want to add ph down... this is all bad you will hurt your plants if you do this..

so the best thing to do if your nutes have buffers is like i said set it once "befor" you add nutes then loose your ph meter untill next water change..

also i know i said this many times but ph doesnt really mater much in soil cause it naturally buffers your ph...
i never ph my water in my soil grows... yes i think it is a sham!!!
 
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