Organic Montana Medical Grow

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looking killer! +Rep

Im here GTO............. I moved them few hundred miles I told ya about. Still setting up right now, and doesn't look like I will be running as soon as possible. And also what is with all the bullshit in this beautiful place we live?

Hey Goat,

After watchin your vids I decided to make some too but I suck at it.
I see captions and stuff on your vids. How do you do that?
Do you use windows movie maker to edit them?

When you are looking at your videos it says Annotations on a tab next to Captions. Thats how i add what i want to say in the videos.

Still trying to find a way of editing my videos with out buying a program.

Thanks for the thread. Long read but well worth it. Condolences on your losses.

Your efforts definitely were worth the hours it took to read this one.

How ya doin over here GTO? I know those ladies are looking nice right now. Do share!

sorry guys for not updating.dealing with some fucking PM
3 grows without it and now on 4th and have the shit!!!!
Anybody have any advice for Powdery mildow...
dont have it real bad.. couple leaves here and their...
my flower room is 6 weeks in
i dont wanna put any chems all over my buds..been picking off the leaves that have it !!!
ive used Neem and seems to work for a few days On the veg room
read a bunch of stuff on how skim milk works and baking soda

FUCK!!!

Couple of growers I know use SM 90 (truly organic) of all things to control that. (Even seems to muck up mites for what that's worth.) Used as a foilar spray, that stuff actually does a number on mildew. It's really safe and less likely to cause damage this late in the game like Serenade might. Serenade is a wonder product to use as a preventative early on though and something to look into.

Okay before somebody screams about Sm 90 being for root boosting only, I've seen this first hand not only inhibit but eliminate mildew. Suggest a rinse with a 50% water/alcohol solution misted after the fact as well. Just to reduce potential leaf breathing problems.

The old school peroxide or baking soda solutions can work. However, you take a real chance of mucking up your plants if you dont get that right the first time. And working your way up with concentrations on that to ideal takes a strong control of the ppm mix of those two options.

I dont recall what mix ratio on the SM 90 in a foilar though. If I recall it was around 1/5 the list concentration used for a root solution in hydro. I'll see if I can track down a note on it here somewhere ...

Yes, I do realize you are in middle of nowhere MT. Lived there as a child eons ago and know the hassle.

Starting with a 50% alcohol solution may at least stunt the spoors while you find a non chemical approach. Otherwise, you may have to for with something like Safer's 3in1 product which can have some serious drawbacks since it, like most of the others, has sulphur as the main reactive agent to kill the new spores. Also go easy with alcohol mists and consider rinsing. Make sure to up the airflow over the leaves afterwards to ensure good conditions less favorable to reformation just in case as well.

Also since you are soil based, dipping the plants is hazard prone. Late in the game for even hydro setups, but lots easier to manage with those.

edit/::: Wait you said 6 weeks not 8 ... argh, insomnia aint helping me none at all. Serenade now would not be too close at all. It is essentially just bacteria. I was thinking you were only maybe 1 week from chop but more likely at least 2. The inhibitor action will stop the spread. But still stand SM 90 and this are good enough solutions. There are a few others but those are the ones I've used. I've also done baking soda on outdoor, but that was do to cost controls. Treating 10 foot tall plants and all that.

My 2 cents (plus sleepless edits) on it for you GTO.

Also, before next rotation, you are going to want to clean your room, intakes etc in one way or another. Everything from getting a UVC lamp (works well, but pricey) to high concentration food grade peroxide solutions exist. May be overkill, but rooms have the bad habit of perpetuating this. Especially if there is places for it to populate, like behind reflective coatings, various crevices, etc.

Airborne is most likely, but soil containments could be culprits. Including mixing barrels etc. When re-using the pots, etc clean them thoroughly.

Hope that helps some.

Found the note I was looking for. Says to follow the directions for foilar spray when using SM 90. I had the 1/5 thing right. Just not 1/5th dosage. Simply 1 part to 5 parts water. Heh. Silly me.

GreenCure has a lot of followers but I've never seen it used so I cannot comment on that. Not sure what that semi local shop you have may or may not have. Serenade can sometimes be found at places like Ace Hardware and the like though. Depends though.

Also, if you buy Serenade, definitely pony up for the concentrate. Like most of these products the premade solution spray bottle is a rip off.

Ive used sm-90 with good results also, but recently I got some shit called eagle 20 That seemed to work much faster. It was completely clear in two applications and hasnt returned. I do not know if it is organic though.

i really can't add anything that psari didn't add. i use organicide, i buy it at lowes.

i think you really need to think about what is different this round. strains, temps, humidity? what was so different this time around? i would thouroughly check you duct and venting. you may have some mildew hanging out somewhere in a very humid spot. most guys fire up the sulfer burner a few times after the first sign. you are going to need to do this, to completely remove this problem. i realize you are beyond that stage. i'm betting you walked that mildew in the door on your clothes. its probably all this moisture we are having. maybe you have some hiding out in a crack in your foundation or something. you cant see it, until it is severe. the biggest problem you may have is the PM thats not visible. it covers the buds on the inside as well. i think you should inspect the buds under a scope, if you make it through this. get your sulfer burner, and figure out how to use it.

so, what to do now? i'd go with the neem, and see if you make it. afer this round you need to fire up the sulfer burner, and use it in your grow until you get to flower. truly sorry about your troubles, i think you will, once again, learn something here. good luck bro! i know you will figure it out.

captain chronizzle said:

i really can't add anything that psari didn't add. i use organicide, i buy it at lowes.

i think you really need to think about what is different this round. strains, temps, humidity? what was so different this time around? i would thouroughly check you duct and venting. you may have some mildew hanging out somewhere in a very humid spot. most guys fire up the sulfer burner a few times after the first sign. you are going to need to do this, to completely remove this problem. i realize you are beyond that stage. i'm betting you walked that mildew in the door on your clothes. its probably all this moisture we are having. maybe you have some hiding out in a crack in your foundation or something. you cant see it, until it is severe. the biggest problem you may have is the PM thats not visible. it covers the buds on the inside as well. i think you should inspect the buds under a scope, if you make it through this. get your sulfer burner, and figure out how to use it.

so, what to do now? i'd go with the neem, and see if you make it. afer this round you need to fire up the sulfer burner, and use it in your grow until you get to flower. truly sorry about your troubles, i think you will, once again, learn something here. good luck bro! i know you will figure it out.

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thanks Capt!!this is enough to make a guy cry!!!!
i dont have it real bad just on one plant...im in week 6 .and i think its the weather were having.. did do a couple i got from my Caregiver...almost think i got it from him...is that possible??and can a guy get rid of it??I feel like giving up!!!

Sulpher Burner (<--link) dont give up !!!

any pics ?

Ack my earlier reply failed. I'll try again later to add some detail on clone sharing horrors and of course the biggest item was to tell you make sure you cleaned your cloning/veggin box first and I mean pronto as it was probably the source of the infection if you had gotten material from outside your control. Seems I was correct.

Back in a few.

MyGTO2007 said:

i dont have it real bad just on one plant...im in week 6 .and i think its the weather were having.. did do a couple i got from my Caregiver...almost think i got it from him...is that possible??and can a guy get rid of it??I feel like giving up!!!

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just gotta say it, sounds like a case of herpes. tough one to get rid of.

Easy GTO hows u doin. Just wanted to ask how did u find organic grows? Ive seen many organic grows and in most of them people have so much deficiencies that i started wondering if i still want to play with it... tbh this is the best thread ive found so far and uve got great plants now but at the beginning u had some problems as well. What did cause these problems and how did u solve it? How much nuts u use? is it easy to overfeed them? u feed them every other watering? Please if you could give me any tips about growing organically i would be thankful m8. Thanks a lot and looking forward to new pics!

That sucks man. I had to toss my floro grow this round cause of that PM.
Ya know man, its just something ya gotta deal with. What ever you spray with, dont hit the buds you dont want mold.
At least the spores don't hibernate in eggs like spider mites and come back to bite you in the ass.

Good Luck.

Hey GTO hows everything going on your end bro??

We havent seen you around in awhile hope your doing good !!

I second that hulk ol' buddy hope all is well in montana! And I know it is. Those girls must be huge by now.