Organic soil with Smart/Fabric/Air Pots?

JustBlazin

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How large of plant were you able to grow in 1 gallons?
first go around I wasn't trying for yield so i flowered them very small was just trying as many seeds as possible so it wasn't much. But this time i veged for a few weeks and they are a decent size but they are only a couple weeks into flower, if i had to guess id say 3/4 - 1 oz , but who knows, the ones in the two gallon plastic pots got a extra week or two of veg have a nice thick stem
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PadawanWarrior

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Damn those pieces look huge! I wonder if others would think they’re too big but if it works it works. Going to try perlite/lava out myself.
Those pieces are huge. I'd try to break them up with a hammer if you wanna use them. That's all my hydro store had too, so I ordered mine from BAS. I got the small black lava rock and both sizes of pumice. The lava rock is a lot heavier than the pumice and a little more expensive. I also added some BioChar.
 

GrassBurner

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I just grabbed the lava rock at Lowes, $10 per cu ft wasn't too bad. Got a big ass bag of perlite from Home Depot as well. I figure with the perlite and lava rock, I should be good on aeration. Hoping the bigger chunks will continue to provide oxygen and homes for bacteria in the long run. Guess I'll find out :lol: I'm a few months into this combo, so far so good :bigjoint:
 

Kassiopeija

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If the soil on the sides of the pot becomes dry after 1-2 days the microbes in that part there will just flee. No?
Indeed, and at that point the breakdown of the org. fertilizer stops in these regions. And existing roots will die after some time, so these pots are good for veg to train a more fully rootball - but for flower not optimal. In an organic growth, esp. when you water from hand, a closed pot is better for several reasons:
- less rH
- less cost of water, fertilizer in some setups, waste
- lesser work
- better microclimate
 

Dopesmoka

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I noticed in fabric pots my plants never got root bound even in one gallon pots for months, I can’t say the same for regular pots. I just flipped one to flower in a 3 gallon fabric pot I vegged in for 3 months she’s looking lovely so far
And I grow all organic I was using RO water until recently
 

Overgrowtho

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Indeed, and at that point the breakdown of the org. fertilizer stops in these regions. And existing roots will die after some time, so these pots are good for veg to train a more fully rootball - but for flower not optimal. In an organic growth, esp. when you water from hand, a closed pot is better for several reasons:
- less rH
- less cost of water, fertilizer in some setups, waste
- lesser work
- better microclimate

Might it be a good idea to wrap the fabric pot in plastic-wrap at the start of flower then?
 

Star Dog

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I'm obviously missing something, or someone certainly is?
What is the need for 10/15 gallon pots, I see that as something I would grow a BIG tree in.
A US gallon is 3.75 litres x 10/15 = 37/50 litre pots wtf???

My current crop is in 6 litre/1.75 gallon pots and I'm getting 4 to 8oz per plant.

Air pots are fantastic I'd expect the fabric to have the same root pruning effect.
 

Gemtree

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I'm obviously missing something, or someone certainly is?
What is the need for 10/15 gallon pots, I see that as something I would grow a BIG tree in.
A US gallon is 3.75 litres x 10/15 = 37/50 litre pots wtf???

My current crop is in 6 litre/1.75 gallon pots and I'm getting 4 to 8oz per plant.

Air pots are fantastic I'd expect the fabric to have the same root pruning effect.
It's the minimum size for notil to support microbial life indefinitely. You don't have to ever disturb the soil just dig a hole next to your last stump and you're good to go.
 

Star Dog

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It's the minimum size for notil to support microbial life indefinitely. You don't have to ever disturb the soil just dig a hole next to your last stump and you're good to go.
Thank you for explaining the reason for pot size, much appreciated.
 

dbz

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Indeed, and at that point the breakdown of the org. fertilizer stops in these regions. And existing roots will die after some time, so these pots are good for veg to train a more fully rootball - but for flower not optimal. In an organic growth, esp. when you water from hand, a closed pot is better for several reasons:
- less rH
- less cost of water, fertilizer in some setups, waste
- lesser work
- better microclimate
Well, I will remember that for next go around I am in organic and used fabric pots, going ok now..but still.
 

Overgrowtho

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I think I will go for the saran wrap trick when entering flowering. I hate to see the outside edge of the fabric pot become some what useless for roots due to lack of moisture.

Thanks for the tips guys.
 
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