Organic Vs. Synthetic Nutrients

Observe & Report said:
How can there be hundreds of elements missing? You are making no sense at all.
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When plants use hundreds of trace elements and you only give them a handful obviously those trace elements will be depleted quickly....


you might wanna think a little more in depth about stuff...
 
I think hes saying that there is hundreds of missing elements in hydroponic nutrients that scientists havent found yet (besides the known 17 or so that are fact) and are essential...that only organics can provide. Hell..new one on me. Lol
 
Yodaweed said:
When plants use hundreds of trace elements and you only give them a handful obviously those trace elements will be depleted quickly....


you might wanna think a little more in depth about stuff...
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huh? What in God's name are you talking about son??
 
Stink Bug said:
118 elements on the periodical table. Plants require 16 or 17 depending on which scholars you decide to listen too.
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Azomite has about 70 different elements in it....glacial rock dust more... so there's maybe 100 different compounds available in glacial rock dust. Bottled nutrients have a handful of them.
 
Yodaweed said:
Azomite has about 70 different elements in it....glacial rock dust more...
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Whatever the hundreds of elements your talking about are not essential minerals the plant needs. Period. If there are as you claim...you (a pot grower) just discovered something that botanists and plant scientists have not for decades if not centuries.
 
Stink Bug said:
See now your just reaching
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Azomite contains over 67 trace minerals and is OMRI listed for organic use. This is an ultra-fine water flowable (-200 mesh) powder and is excellent for coating seeds or irrigation for maximum germination and initial growth. Azomite is a good amendment for crops, compost and potting soil and is used to increase size and ...

https://www.amazon.com/Pounds-Azomite-Organic-Essential-Minerals/dp/B00AJALC2G

You guys might wanna read up about stuff before trolling others that have been doing it longer than you have.
 
Seaweed extract has over 60 certified elements included.

It is in both bottled nutes I like to use. Including the mineral salt based one.

I better start pouring some botanicare bottled nutes all over my pots to replenish all the NPK and trace elements.

Wait what?!?!?
 
MichiganMedGrower said:
Seaweed extract has over 60 certified elements included.

It is in both bottled nutes I like to use. Including the mineral salt based one.

I better start pouring some botanicare bottled nutes all over my pots to replenish all the NPK and trace elements.

Wait what?!?!?
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I'm sorry you do not understand the differences between organic and hydroponics, i grow both and they are vastly different, right now i'm growing some white fire og under a 315 cmh and some leds, half organic half hydroponics, huge differences in phenotype expression(all cuts taken from the same mother plan on the same day) and the plants are under the same lights grow in same exact conditions.....both lush green but big differences in shape and appearance i expect vast differences in cannabinoid content which i plan to get tested after i finish this run .
 
No matter what you think you may know...or want to believe. Marijuana and every other common c3 plant/annual needs only 17 elements to grow and thrive period.
 
Yodaweed said:
right now i'm growing some white fire og under a 315 cmh and some leds, half organic half hydroponics, huge differences in phenotype expression(all cuts taken from the same mother plan on the same day) and the plants are under the same lights grow in same exact conditions.....both lush green but big differences in shape and appearance i expect vast differences in cannabinoid content which i plan to get tested after i finish this run .
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I'm looking forward to reading your paper once it passes peer review.
 
Yodaweed said:
I'm sorry you do not understand the differences between organic and hydroponics, i grow both and they are vastly different, right now i'm growing some white fire og under a 315 cmh and some leds, half organic half hydroponics, huge differences in phenotype expression(all cuts taken from the same mother plan on the same day) and the plants are under the same lights grow in same exact conditions.....both lush green but big differences in shape and appearance i expect vast differences in cannabinoid content which i plan to get tested after i finish this run .
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Why do you keep repeating your opinion about what I know? Your knowledge of gardening sounds like a high times ad.

Your knowledge of horticultural science is well almost nonexistent. Sorry but your info is quite incorrect and easily disputed.

We blind tested organics, bottled naturally derived and bottled mineral salt based and guess what?

No one got which one with any consistency. And in fact the organic was picked the least. But claimed the most.

It is all hype. The differences you keep highlighting are in highly diminishing returns. The environment, how the individual grow goes and the genetics are most important. Not how the plant gets its nutrients. Light types make small differences. But much larger differences than uptake method.

And just an opinion but a Grow with worms inside my house and a cover crop to add even more variables is just a bad idea and kind of gross.

And smelly ingredients and brews would be even worse.

Regardless. If you document your side by side and have reasonable growing conditions with the same cuttings I will be excited to review.

I’m always interested in new info.
 
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