Organics and PH

I have no info on the subject. I was wondering if i need to worry about ph in organics. My girls start yellowing around 4 weeks and i'm giving them good doses of N in the form of castings, guano, and seaweed(liquid). i'm just wondering why they are going yellow.
Any info on whether i should be concerned or what i could use would be helpful, thx in advance.

Always worry about pH. It's the leading cause of lockout.

you have to worry about PH in every kind of grow. some ways have less issues with PH than others but it still needs to be checked from time to time in any situation.

i have read that in organics, it sorts itself out. "there is no ph in nature" type of talk

well how could i organically adjust my nute-tea? without killing microbes

There is pH in nature, but the plants seed themselves and those that can not adapt don't grow while those that are suited to the natural pH of an area thrive.

Use a pH meter, adjust with baking soda or lemon juice depending on which direction you want the pH to go.

baking soda has salts that are harmful right ?

Some, but sinc everyone flushes anyways they really don't amount to alot. You might be thinking of washing soda.

I used baking soda after some research and everything seems to be working well. My lockout is gone and the plants are doing wonderful. That's not predicting the future mind you. Just sayin what my currant state is.

lemon juice is not good it has no buffering quilties you ph will go right back up in a matter of hours go to a pet store and get some ph up and ph down for fish tanks works great

I also read that its not good to use fish tank products. I don't remember why though.

i need something to up my ph, it's low now around 5.0 .

TrynaGroSumShyt said:

i need something to up my ph, it's low now around 5.0 .

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It's called lime, derived from limestone, NOT the fruit. Dolomitic (dolomite lime), or Calcitic (garden lime, or agricultural lime). Farmers and gardeners have been using it forever, especially since they got the equipment to crush it.

You get the soils pH right and that's it, not anything that's dumped on the soil, like water, nutes, etc. Liquid's pH has at best a temporary effect on the soils pH.

Baking powder, lemon juice, pH up/down is stoner science at best and generally used by inexperienced growers who have never gardened, farmed, or have a clue as to actually what's happening with their soil.

A 40lb bag cost less than $5 and one application/grow is all that's necessary.

Of course that eliminates all the complicated pH crap that is only necessary in hydro. The noob growers seem to love it though.

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i wasn't looking for any snake oil or anything, and i know about lime. but my plants are already in pots and the soil is already made so i don't see how i can add lime in there pots, unless i just do it on the top layer, is that sufficient ?

You can still add lime. Either mix it into the top of the soil a bit and then water in thoroughly, or initially mix the lime with a small amount of water, then water it in thoroughly. It would help to have something like a pump-up pressure sprayer filled with just water to work and wash the lime into the soil.

ordering lime now. and some other things for my tea.

A bacterial AACT, specifically B/A bioslime, is basic and will help raise the overall pH.

No need to pH anything in 100% organic soil grows. Not only does the pH of organic nutes balance themselves out in a good soil/soiless, but pH meters are not accurate measuring the pH in organic soil or liquid.
Your meter could easily be .2-.5 off while the pH may drop or jump in the next hour by full point. It's impossible to keep track of pH in organic grows.
My Earth Juice nute mixes are usually as low as 4 pH when going into the FFOF soil I use, the runoff can sometimes be as high as 8 pH just 5 minutes after feeding. Both readings are wrong because most pH meters and readers cannot accurately measure pH.
I've done 6 grows in a row with two lines, one of them Earth Juice original which is full organic and I haven't pHed once. ONLY in veg BEFORE I use my nutes do I keep the water and runoff in the 6.3-6.8 range. Once liquid nutes are introduced the pHing ends.

i bought some gardening lime i will update and let you know how it works,

TrynaGroSumShyt said:

i wasn't looking for any snake oil or anything, and i know about lime. but my plants are already in pots and the soil is already made so i don't see how i can add lime in there pots, unless i just do it on the top layer, is that sufficient ?

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earth juice has a natural up and down which is organic

I applied the lime two days ago, they are still yellow of course, but i'm not sure if they are yellowing anymore but they are not shedding leaves.